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Ten Forward Weekly 1/13/21

somtaawkharsomtaawkhar Member Posts: 10,222 Arc User
From reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/sto/comments/kwwql2/ten_forward_weekly_13012021_ps4_house_shattered/
  • Mike isn't aware when (fixed) House Shattered it coming to XBox.
  • Fight to fix Temporal Ambassador is still ongoing. Mike is pretty annoyed with it as well.
  • XBox event schedule would be shifted.
  • Yes, there would be new legendary bundle this year - this is as much as Mike is allowed to say.
  • Steamrunner ships were supposed to be PC exclusive for now, but since they're on PS4 they'd look into adding it to XBox.
  • Exp upgrades can't be released on XBox separately from the rest of the House Shattered content.
  • Someone lovingly sent a pic of Oberth named U.S.S. Fatum.
  • Mike can't announce yet, but "Alliance ship" is right track for guessing the anniversary ship.
  • Mike's interested to see what we'd think about it.
  • Mike stumbled upon a bug when his KDF char was offered to "hail Starfleet".
  • They'd try their hardest to squeeze Eisenberg class in game.
  • Robert O'Riley never visited Cryptic because they worked with him during the isolation time.
  • Mike still loves Console contact window a lot.
  • No info about more things for those who finish endeavor campaign.
  • They may have some updates to crafting this year if the idea works out.
  • Book's ship in not in schedule right now.
  • Usually when question is "why don't we have X in the game" (cardassian hand disruptor was used as an example), the answer is "there are too many other props to model".
  • Sometime they actually can afford to do things for the art.
  • As to why Zefram Cochrane's costume is unavailable: statue was made as a single piece, so there's no costume to give out in first place.
  • Cryptic were heavily considering Enterprise-themed direction, when suddenly all modern shows happened.
  • Mike is fascinated that with things like that at its time Enterprise had reputation similar to the one modern shows have today, but now it is also often seen in positive light so the important thing is that it's not just quality of an art, but also preferences of viewers.
  • Mike hopes sometime people would stop immediately hating new things.
  • "Nostalgia isn't wrong."
  • Mike said that responding to every message on every platform will make him unable to actually perform his job, although he tries his best to at least monitor them all.
  • About free ship for new event campaign, whether it's for account or character: Mike heard both things said, but isn't aware what's final decision (or is there one already).
  • Mechanic from Champions that allows to change weapon's colour is non-applicable for STO.
  • Making new races is not as easy as is used to be, as team changed.
  • Kelvin!Spocks's volcano suit was removed from immediate schedule when original ground TFO it was made for had disintegrated because of armour/EV integration failure and then it was effectively forgotten. They still plan to make it sometime.
  • With how things are, they're likely to model Voyager-J before creating Voyager-A.
  • They try to limit power creep, but it's hard to avoid it at all, as they need to make new things interesting.
  • Mike has fond memories of putting DS9 skin on a pilot escort during the stream to showcase the updated model and them making it do a barrel roll.
  • Or when Jette made Schimitar with screen-accurate amount of weapons.
  • Mike finds it unlikely that they'll be able to afford making customizable ship interior.
  • Lower Decks, Pickard and Discovery S3 uniforms are planned to be made sooner a later.
  • Mike is glad that previously blog story-only characters made it in game for Partisans.
  • Yes, despite Mike's usual joking, they actually have plans for T6 Oberth eventually.
  • Chat wants Cryptic to name it in Mike's name, referring to U.S.S. Fatum from fan content part. Mike says that he'd have a strike from that.
  • CBS don't want people to use some canon names, like Reliant.
  • Animation and modelling people in Cryptic was scared when they saw Book's ship do its thing.
  • Current Galactic Red Alert form (long, but with experimental upgrade) would be the one for foreseeable future.
  • Mike, upon one of boffs dying to the warbeast targ: "Don't stick your finger in the targ".
  • Mike would be interested to see STO-modern Cardassia.
  • Because of how console' certification work, STO there would always lag behind the PC.
  • Mike, upon his ship exploding: "This is going well".
  • News for anniversary would start coming relatively soon.
  • Re: crossplatform: consoles weren't up to it when they started working on port, and adding that retrospectively seems too much of an undertaking.
  • To hell with honor would enter regular TFO circulation.
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    garaffegaraffe Member Posts: 1,353 Arc User
    Any mention of constant visual spam?
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    rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 58,020 Community Moderator
    We also got to see one of Kael's Feline Overlords. ^^
    Day got better with Feline Overlord. :D
    I was actually surprised he responded to me when I randomly stumbled across the livestream on Facebook and asked about the cats. One was napping on the couch behind him.

    Think it was around 14 minutes in.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
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    foppotee#4552 foppotee Member Posts: 1,704 Arc User
    edited January 2021
    Dang forgot all about Cryptic's 10FW. Thanks again to somtaawkhar for the synopsis good & bad.

    A bummer nothing, again, seems to had been asked nor addressed about a (3) Fek'Ihri console set bonus.
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    ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,569 Arc User
    Oberth over Nova.
    'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
    Judge Dan Haywood
    'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
    l don't know.
    l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
    That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
    Lt. Philip J. Minns
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    westx211westx211 Member Posts: 42,215 Arc User
    ltminns wrote: »
    Oberth over Nova.

    The funniest thing is, that if they do make the Oberth first they will have made EVERY OTHER ship in the popularity contest before the SHIP THAT WON. Like what the TRIBBLE.
    Men are not punished for their sins, but by them.
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    jennycolvinjennycolvin Member Posts: 1,100 Arc User
    westx211 wrote: »
    ltminns wrote: »
    Oberth over Nova.

    The funniest thing is, that if they do make the Oberth first they will have made EVERY OTHER ship in the popularity contest before the SHIP THAT WON. Like what the TRIBBLE.

    And yet, people asking for a Nova T6 are dubbed as "obsessed" and their post as "annoying". Gotta love it, uh?
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    Not agreeing with someone doesn't give you the right to be an TRIBBLE.

    Ci sono tre tipi di giocatori:
    - quelli a cui non va mai bene niente... e vanno sul forum a trollare;
    - quelli che sono talmente imbesuiti da credere a qualunque cosa i dev dicano, perfino che la luna è fatta di formaggio... e vanno sul forum a trollare;
    - quelli che credono a quello a cui è giusto credere, sono d'accordo con quello con cui è giusto essere d'accordo e sono critici con quello che non va;

    Ai giocatori dei primi due tipi, gratis in omaggio un bello specchio lucente su cui arrampicarsi. E una mazzata in testa per la loro poca intelligenza e compassione verso gli altri giocatori che non la pensano come loro.
    Agli appartenenti al terzo tipo, invece, dico grazie. Anche se non sempre si riesce a mantenere la calma, siete quelli per cui vale la pena incazzarsi.
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    rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 58,020 Community Moderator
    reyan01 wrote: »
    - Mike hopes sometime people would stop immediately hating new things.
    - "Nostalgia isn't wrong."

    I feel this is somewhat contradictory.

    It isn't actually. Back when Enterprise first aired, people HATED it. They wanted to kill it with fire. The same kind of hate that Discovery got. And yet... now people look back at Enterprise and say it was alright.
    Its actually quite common for Trek shows to get hate, then years later be looked back on and liked. The Biggest difference though, is just how visible the hate was.
    • TNG was hated at first. Got lots of hate mail. Now its liked.
    • DS9 was hated at first. Got lots of hate mail because it wasn't on a ship. Now its viewed as one of the best.
    • VOY was hated at first. still kinda hated now because there were too many writers doing their own things.
    • ENT was hated at first for being too "advanced" compared to TOS. Now people are liking it.

    Even the Kelvin Timeline, which many people wanted to burn in the deepest, hottest pits of hell for "destroying everything that came before it" is now viewed more positively.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
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    fleetcaptain5#1134 fleetcaptain5 Member Posts: 4,789 Arc User
    Mike is fascinated that with things like that at its time Enterprise had reputation similar to the one modern shows have today, but now it is also often seen in positive light so the important thing is that it's not just quality of an art, but also preferences of viewers.

    That's too bad.
    About free ship for new event campaign, whether it's for account or character: Mike heard both things said, but isn't aware what's final decision (or is there one already).

    ok.
    Mechanic from Champions that allows to change weapon's colour is non-applicable for STO.
    Making new races is not as easy as is used to be, as team changed.

    This is disappointing. Even if it were only applicable to some set gear, more customisation options would be an improvement. And I hope they can find people who can work on making new races in the future.

    I hope they're only limited in creating new playable species - and not races in general? It would be sad if we'll only meet Klingons or Romulans from now on...
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    fleetcaptain5#1134 fleetcaptain5 Member Posts: 4,789 Arc User
    To hell with honor would enter regular TFO circulation.

    This is good news. It wasn't much fun having to do it daily, but THWH is a fun mission nevertheless.
    [4:46] [Combat {self}] Your Haymaker deals 23337 (9049) Physical Damage(Critical) to Spawnmother

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    jennycolvinjennycolvin Member Posts: 1,100 Arc User
    edited January 2021
    Response to moderated post redacted. -- WingedHussar
    Post edited by wingedhussar#7584 on
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    Not agreeing with someone doesn't give you the right to be an TRIBBLE.

    Ci sono tre tipi di giocatori:
    - quelli a cui non va mai bene niente... e vanno sul forum a trollare;
    - quelli che sono talmente imbesuiti da credere a qualunque cosa i dev dicano, perfino che la luna è fatta di formaggio... e vanno sul forum a trollare;
    - quelli che credono a quello a cui è giusto credere, sono d'accordo con quello con cui è giusto essere d'accordo e sono critici con quello che non va;

    Ai giocatori dei primi due tipi, gratis in omaggio un bello specchio lucente su cui arrampicarsi. E una mazzata in testa per la loro poca intelligenza e compassione verso gli altri giocatori che non la pensano come loro.
    Agli appartenenti al terzo tipo, invece, dico grazie. Anche se non sempre si riesce a mantenere la calma, siete quelli per cui vale la pena incazzarsi.
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    fleetcaptain5#1134 fleetcaptain5 Member Posts: 4,789 Arc User
    I hope they're only limited in creating new playable species - and not races in general? It would be sad if we'll only meet Klingons or Romulans from now on...
    He was talking about playable races, not just new races at all.

    Ok, thanks for the info.
    [4:46] [Combat {self}] Your Haymaker deals 23337 (9049) Physical Damage(Critical) to Spawnmother

    [3/25 10:41][Combat (Self)]Your Haymaker deals 26187 (10692) Physical Damage(Critical) to Orinoco.
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    foppotee#4552 foppotee Member Posts: 1,704 Arc User
    Something I'd like to see is more choice with quest rewards -- instead of it being a specific weapon and energy type, let the players pick one part or the other, where it makes sense.

    For example: instead of an AP beam array, AP Dual Cannon, or AP Dual Beams from Fluid Dynamics, there would be two award packages -- AP Beam Weapon (player's choice) and AP Cannon Weapon (player's choice). Home, the last mission from the Gamma Quadrant line, would have two basic award options -- Morphogenic Polaron Weapon (torpedo, cannons, beams), Morphogenic Console (Matrix for weapons or a Flow Cap for sci-oriented ships), along with the Beacon and the Emote.

    Give players a bit more freedom with the awards they can choose from to better fit how they're playing.

    I like that idea, adds more variety, more reason to redo missions & I tend to believe, usually, the more options the better.

    Cryptic would probably have to weigh the value of allowing that with thought for the various Reputations' various weapon types since I'm sure they's still want us all investing into the Reputations still for more than the exclusive items.
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    rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 58,020 Community Moderator
    We also need a use for GPL. I've gone from building the Great Pyramids of Giza to The Great Wall of China... complete with weapons to fight off the Tao Tei.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
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    jennycolvinjennycolvin Member Posts: 1,100 Arc User
    edited January 2021
    Response to moderated post redacted. -- WingedHussar
    Post edited by wingedhussar#7584 on
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    Not agreeing with someone doesn't give you the right to be an TRIBBLE.

    Ci sono tre tipi di giocatori:
    - quelli a cui non va mai bene niente... e vanno sul forum a trollare;
    - quelli che sono talmente imbesuiti da credere a qualunque cosa i dev dicano, perfino che la luna è fatta di formaggio... e vanno sul forum a trollare;
    - quelli che credono a quello a cui è giusto credere, sono d'accordo con quello con cui è giusto essere d'accordo e sono critici con quello che non va;

    Ai giocatori dei primi due tipi, gratis in omaggio un bello specchio lucente su cui arrampicarsi. E una mazzata in testa per la loro poca intelligenza e compassione verso gli altri giocatori che non la pensano come loro.
    Agli appartenenti al terzo tipo, invece, dico grazie. Anche se non sempre si riesce a mantenere la calma, siete quelli per cui vale la pena incazzarsi.
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    fleetcaptain5#1134 fleetcaptain5 Member Posts: 4,789 Arc User
    It's not unfair to describe an effort to do everything but designing a new Nova as being obsessed.

    They're trying desperately to do everything except that one thing they should have done after making a poll. Especially when there's a fanbase who keeps reminding them about it, it's not too strange to argue that they're obsessed in their disliking of the ship.

    Being obsessed with something, doesn't require a positive attitude towards that something, after all.

    So, whether the Oberth comments are meant to be jokes or not isn't even that relevant - the Devs' refusal to make a T6 Nova in itself has a lot to do with obsession.
    [4:46] [Combat {self}] Your Haymaker deals 23337 (9049) Physical Damage(Critical) to Spawnmother

    [3/25 10:41][Combat (Self)]Your Haymaker deals 26187 (10692) Physical Damage(Critical) to Orinoco.
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    spiritbornspiritborn Member Posts: 4,263 Arc User
    I hope they're only limited in creating new playable species - and not races in general? It would be sad if we'll only meet Klingons or Romulans from now on...
    He was talking about playable races, not just new races at all.

    makes sense making playable races is much more of an undertaking then making NPC races as NPCs can be made with limited animation and customization sets.

    Back in the Foundry you could see that some NPC only races might have as little as 1 version per rank (Tholians had that IIRC) and had only the animation they absolutely needed to be included.
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    avoozuulavoozuul Member Posts: 3,196 Arc User
    edited January 2021
    Response to moderated post redacted. -- WingedHussar
    Post edited by wingedhussar#7584 on
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    jennycolvinjennycolvin Member Posts: 1,100 Arc User
    It's not unfair to describe an effort to do everything but designing a new Nova as being obsessed.

    They're trying desperately to do everything except that one thing they should have done after making a poll. Especially when there's a fanbase who keeps reminding them about it, it's not too strange to argue that they're obsessed in their disliking of the ship.

    Being obsessed with something, doesn't require a positive attitude towards that something, after all.

    So, whether the Oberth comments are meant to be jokes or not isn't even that relevant - the Devs' refusal to make a T6 Nova in itself has a lot to do with obsession.

    Beautifully said.
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    Not agreeing with someone doesn't give you the right to be an TRIBBLE.

    Ci sono tre tipi di giocatori:
    - quelli a cui non va mai bene niente... e vanno sul forum a trollare;
    - quelli che sono talmente imbesuiti da credere a qualunque cosa i dev dicano, perfino che la luna è fatta di formaggio... e vanno sul forum a trollare;
    - quelli che credono a quello a cui è giusto credere, sono d'accordo con quello con cui è giusto essere d'accordo e sono critici con quello che non va;

    Ai giocatori dei primi due tipi, gratis in omaggio un bello specchio lucente su cui arrampicarsi. E una mazzata in testa per la loro poca intelligenza e compassione verso gli altri giocatori che non la pensano come loro.
    Agli appartenenti al terzo tipo, invece, dico grazie. Anche se non sempre si riesce a mantenere la calma, siete quelli per cui vale la pena incazzarsi.
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    rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 58,020 Community Moderator
    I'm not going to attribute the lack of a T6 Nova to malice or some conspiracy within the company. And I'm also not going to say its out of revenge for one of the Devs having their favorite class ripped a new one years ago either (Excelsior).

    While we are probably due for a T6 Nova... it may just be a scheduling thing. Where and when to bring one in. Unfortunately she's alongside the Kamarag in that aspect. Ships people want, but may just not be on the schedule.

    Ultimately... we are not privy to the inner workings of ship design and release. Jumping straight to witholding out of spite is counterproductive. It doesn't help anything, and frankly... is in itself spiteful and most likely perpetrating a vicious circle and "self fulfilling prophecy", as every time a T6 Nova is not announced, its "More evidence of the hate towards the Nova."

    She's coming. Where and when is not up to us. And when she does I'm also expecting a full on remodel to the quality that many other canon ships have received, with either using the Intrepid hull material or get her own like the Luna did.

    Going on a tirade over the Nova not being released now is not only derailing the thread, but not helping anyone.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
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