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xxtakunixxxxtakunixx Member Posts: 73 Arc User
Please quit giving us bundles for huge prices that include items we already own. I would love to have the miradorn raider but i already own everything in the bundle except the raider $120 for 1 ship is stupid. you go and offer these bundles sometimes when people who have been around for a while already own the lower tier ship or event gear that they earned because we have been here playing and supporting you for years. you turn around and penalize us by anouncing bundle like this that come with some thing really nice with a bunch of stuff that we own or have no use for. If there was 2 options like the support cruiser bundles where people could get the new ships if they already own the other 2 was great.

Lets make 2021 a great year in STO
Robert Nealand
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  • nikephorusnikephorus Member Posts: 2,744 Arc User
    xxtakunixx wrote: »
    Please quit giving us bundles for huge prices that include items we already own. I would love to have the miradorn raider but i already own everything in the bundle except the raider $120 for 1 ship is stupid. you go and offer these bundles sometimes when people who have been around for a while already own the lower tier ship or event gear that they earned because we have been here playing and supporting you for years. you turn around and penalize us by anouncing bundle like this that come with some thing really nice with a bunch of stuff that we own or have no use for. If there was 2 options like the support cruiser bundles where people could get the new ships if they already own the other 2 was great.

    Lets make 2021 a great year in STO
    Robert Nealand

    Would be nice if they could see the other ship in your roster and autodiscount the bundle. Probably too difficult to code for.
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  • garaffegaraffe Member Posts: 1,353 Arc User
    nikephorus wrote: »
    xxtakunixx wrote: »
    Please quit giving us bundles for huge prices that include items we already own. I would love to have the miradorn raider but i already own everything in the bundle except the raider $120 for 1 ship is stupid. you go and offer these bundles sometimes when people who have been around for a while already own the lower tier ship or event gear that they earned because we have been here playing and supporting you for years. you turn around and penalize us by anouncing bundle like this that come with some thing really nice with a bunch of stuff that we own or have no use for. If there was 2 options like the support cruiser bundles where people could get the new ships if they already own the other 2 was great.

    Lets make 2021 a great year in STO
    Robert Nealand

    Would be nice if they could see the other ship in your roster and autodiscount the bundle. Probably too difficult to code for.

    I don't see how it would be too difficult to code. They already have discounts based on event progress for buyouts, so accessing the ship roster data and applying the appropriate discount should actually be pretty easy.

    The issue is that it would mean less money coming in, or so they think.
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  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 6,085 Arc User
    garaffe wrote: »
    I don't see how it would be too difficult to code. They already have discounts based on event progress for buyouts, so accessing the ship roster data and applying the appropriate discount should actually be pretty easy.

    The issue is that it would mean less money coming in, or so they think.
    You would be surprised how many stores I've seen in games that don't support this functionality.

    The main problem comes in that bundles are typically less expensive then buying everything separately(which is the point of bundles) so you can't just subtract the base cost of these items if you own them, since, in the bundle, they aren't the same cost as buying them separately. An item that is normally 500 zen by itself, may only make up 373 zen of a bundle. This can lead to players being stuck with odd numbered Zen, which can then be hard to get rid off, since everything in the Z store ends in a 5 or 0, and thus makes buying things more difficult.

    This gets even more annoying when you actor in sales. If bundles are already cheaper then buying everything separately, and you are already having to prorate the discount of the item's normal cost just for the bundle's normal price, you then have to add an additional proration when said bundle goes on sale. If a normally 3,000 zen ship only makes up like 2458 zen of a bundle, then, when said bundle is on a 60% sale, that discount you get from already owning the ship would have to go down to 1474.8 zen discount for the bundle. And now you are dealing with fractional zen amounts, which the game doesn't do.

    The prorated cost of event rewards isn't even the same thing. Events use small numbers 1-7. 1-14. 1-21, and you can't buy individual items inside event rewards, you can only get a proration of the whole event reward.

    One way to do it is the pick-one-from-each-column style thing they already do with Mudds Market packages, so they do seem to be trying at least. Of course some of the non-Mudd packs might be difficult to do that with since they are often organized by a tighter theme than Mudd packs.
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