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questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,708 Arc User
Not to derail another topic:
That's THREE of these bundles for feddy bears now and nothing for KDF.

Where is our Vorcha or B'rel ship of the line bundle?

Devs are probably focusing on the all but unofficially confirmed KDF legendary pack.

Have to wonder which ships will be in it.
B'rel, Vorcha and Negh'var are a given.
Probably the D7 and something from discovery and Kelvin timelines.

And possibly a legenday version of this:
https://sto.gamepedia.com/Vor'ral_Support_Battlecruiser

What do you folks think?

For nostalgia sake this one as well https://sto.gamepedia.com/K'Tanco_Battlecruiser
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  • lordmerc22lordmerc22 Member Posts: 776 Arc User
    I think the best would be to go for a 5-6 ship pack, B'Rel, Negh'Tev, Vorcha, D7 and Sarcophagus. Sarcophagus is only dread among those and only hangar petship(aka 2 hangars) so I think it should be included especially since canon and a KDF heroes/archvillain ship depending on what angle you see it from. Considering some people main a sci, maybe they need include one of the "madeup" sci designs to cover all classes. Of course if they go with 5-6 ships price cant be same to the Fed one, obviously
  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,708 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    questerius wrote: »
    Not to derail another topic:
    That's THREE of these bundles for feddy bears now and nothing for KDF.

    Where is our Vorcha or B'rel ship of the line bundle?

    Devs are probably focusing on the all but unofficially confirmed KDF legendary pack.

    Have to wonder which ships will be in it.
    B'rel, Vorcha and Negh'var are a given.
    Probably the D7 and something from discovery and Kelvin timelines.

    And possibly a legenday version of this:
    https://sto.gamepedia.com/Vor'ral_Support_Battlecruiser

    What do you folks think?

    For nostalgia sake this one as well https://sto.gamepedia.com/K'Tanco_Battlecruiser

    Can I ask, genuinely - where did this unoffical confirmation appear? I haven't been keeping up with Livesteams and such and don't pay a great deal of attention to social media. And certainly don't recall seeing anything here on the forum.

    Easiest find is the closing post from @darkbladejk in this topic:
    https://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline#/discussion/1258242/discrimination-of-klingons

    That info was supposed to have originated from a live stream.
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  • lordmerc22lordmerc22 Member Posts: 776 Arc User
    edited November 2020
    I watch most(but not all) of the streams too, not all obviously cause they are late for eu time, and havent seen either any unofficial "nod" so it might be just us being too positive, I dont know. Generally it is probably not good we develop false hopes unless we at least get even a vague answer they work on one cause it may end up like the anniversary where 2 KDF ships out of that pack were talked about before Cryptic ever officially announced it and it turned out all Federation ships.(and even for Fed players was far from perfect not touching asked ships for years and making the pack unbreakable)
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  • foxrockssocksfoxrockssocks Member Posts: 2,482 Arc User
    The Vor'ral is the Vorcha. I imagine it will be a MW ship as a Legendary, as the Vor'ral is already full temporal.

    So, Vorcha, Negh'var, B'rel, D7 of some variety, a legendary Bortasqu for sure, and probably something from ST:D, like the Sarcophagus. I think a raptor of some kind would make sense, but I couldn't imagine what that would be given how raptors are pretty neglected at T6. If they want to try and pack it full to 10, I'd imagine another version of the Kelvin BOP, probably another Disco ship like the cleave ship. Beyond that I'm not too sure.
  • lordmerc22lordmerc22 Member Posts: 776 Arc User
    The Vor'ral is the Vorcha. I imagine it will be a MW ship as a Legendary, as the Vor'ral is already full temporal.

    So, Vorcha, Negh'var, B'rel, D7 of some variety, a legendary Bortasqu for sure, and probably something from ST:D, like the Sarcophagus. I think a raptor of some kind would make sense, but I couldn't imagine what that would be given how raptors are pretty neglected at T6. If they want to try and pack it full to 10, I'd imagine another version of the Kelvin BOP, probably another Disco ship like the cleave ship. Beyond that I'm not too sure.

    The ship Martok flies too on the episode House Shattered(visible in the scene where all ship leave and we are left with our ship, J'Ulas ship and Martok's ship facing J'mpoks T6 Voquv) is probably the most likely candidate of all. If we end up seeing a 1ship bundle with side items, which is popular with Crytic lately, instead of the multiple ships we dream of, then it will be that ship with T6X upgrades, a few skins, two traits etc.. It sort of looks like a Kurak/Mogh but at first I thought it was a Mat'Ha raptor

  • foxrockssocksfoxrockssocks Member Posts: 2,482 Arc User
    lordmerc22 wrote: »
    The Vor'ral is the Vorcha. I imagine it will be a MW ship as a Legendary, as the Vor'ral is already full temporal.

    So, Vorcha, Negh'var, B'rel, D7 of some variety, a legendary Bortasqu for sure, and probably something from ST:D, like the Sarcophagus. I think a raptor of some kind would make sense, but I couldn't imagine what that would be given how raptors are pretty neglected at T6. If they want to try and pack it full to 10, I'd imagine another version of the Kelvin BOP, probably another Disco ship like the cleave ship. Beyond that I'm not too sure.

    The ship Martok flies too on the episode House Shattered(visible in the scene where all ship leave and we are left with our ship, J'Ulas ship and Martok's ship facing J'mpoks T6 Voquv) is probably the most likely candidate of all. If we end up seeing a 1ship bundle with side items, which is popular with Crytic lately, instead of the multiple ships we dream of, then it will be that ship with T6X upgrades, a few skins, two traits etc.. It sort of looks like a Kurak/Mogh but at first I thought it was a Mat'Ha raptor

    I am pretty sure its a Kurak/Mogh, too, but I don't recall. I wouldn't be surprised if it was legendarized. Given that KDF can't get the Inquiry console at all, that would be a good move to make it available to KDF. Its a cryptic ship, though, so I don't know if it would fit in a big 10 pack like the Fed Legendary pack full of mostly canon ships, but on its own that is a possibility.
  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,708 Arc User
    lordmerc22 wrote: »
    The Vor'ral is the Vorcha. I imagine it will be a MW ship as a Legendary, as the Vor'ral is already full temporal.

    So, Vorcha, Negh'var, B'rel, D7 of some variety, a legendary Bortasqu for sure, and probably something from ST:D, like the Sarcophagus. I think a raptor of some kind would make sense, but I couldn't imagine what that would be given how raptors are pretty neglected at T6. If they want to try and pack it full to 10, I'd imagine another version of the Kelvin BOP, probably another Disco ship like the cleave ship. Beyond that I'm not too sure.

    The ship Martok flies too on the episode House Shattered(visible in the scene where all ship leave and we are left with our ship, J'Ulas ship and Martok's ship facing J'mpoks T6 Voquv) is probably the most likely candidate of all. If we end up seeing a 1ship bundle with side items, which is popular with Crytic lately, instead of the multiple ships we dream of, then it will be that ship with T6X upgrades, a few skins, two traits etc.. It sort of looks like a Kurak/Mogh but at first I thought it was a Mat'Ha raptor

    This one?
    https://sto.gamepedia.com/I.K.S._Rotarran
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  • lordmerc22lordmerc22 Member Posts: 776 Arc User
    edited November 2020
    questerius wrote: »
    lordmerc22 wrote: »
    The Vor'ral is the Vorcha. I imagine it will be a MW ship as a Legendary, as the Vor'ral is already full temporal.

    So, Vorcha, Negh'var, B'rel, D7 of some variety, a legendary Bortasqu for sure, and probably something from ST:D, like the Sarcophagus. I think a raptor of some kind would make sense, but I couldn't imagine what that would be given how raptors are pretty neglected at T6. If they want to try and pack it full to 10, I'd imagine another version of the Kelvin BOP, probably another Disco ship like the cleave ship. Beyond that I'm not too sure.

    The ship Martok flies too on the episode House Shattered(visible in the scene where all ship leave and we are left with our ship, J'Ulas ship and Martok's ship facing J'mpoks T6 Voquv) is probably the most likely candidate of all. If we end up seeing a 1ship bundle with side items, which is popular with Crytic lately, instead of the multiple ships we dream of, then it will be that ship with T6X upgrades, a few skins, two traits etc.. It sort of looks like a Kurak/Mogh but at first I thought it was a Mat'Ha raptor

    This one?
    https://sto.gamepedia.com/I.K.S._Rotarran

    It doesnt look like the Rotarran in the mission, if you happen to do the mission, in the final ship where all high counsil houses left you see the 3 ships facing towards J'mpoks support carrier. One of them is whatever ship you fly, second is J'Ulas Qugh(Lukara) and the third is what Martok is flying unless they changed the glow colors and its deceiving me from that angle
  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,708 Arc User
    https://sto.gamepedia.com/Mission:_Partisans

    If it is not the Rotarran nor the Kor then i am at a loss. Perhaps something from next week's release (if there is one :P)
    This program, though reasonably normal at times, seems to have a strong affinity to classes belonging to the Cat 2.0 program. Questerius 2.7 will break down on occasion, resulting in garbage and nonsense messages whenever it occurs. Usually a hard reboot or pulling the plug solves the problem when that happens.
  • lordmerc22lordmerc22 Member Posts: 776 Arc User
    edited November 2020
    questerius wrote: »
    https://sto.gamepedia.com/Mission:_Partisans

    If it is not the Rotarran nor the Kor then i am at a loss. Perhaps something from next week's release (if there is one :P)

    Or they changed the model again for the Rotarran which hasnt happened first time:

    the Rotarran first appeared as a Negh'Var Warship in "Brushfire", and then a Hegh'ta Heavy Bird-of-Prey in "Scylla and Charybdis". It is possible that Martok assumed command of a Bird-of-Prey and had it renamed in honor of the previous Bird-of-Prey he commanded decades earlier.

    cause from the angle we see it, doesnt look his usual BoP
  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,921 Arc User
    lordmerc22 wrote: »
    I think the best would be to go for a 5-6 ship pack, B'Rel, Negh'Tev, Vorcha, D7 and Sarcophagus. Sarcophagus is only dread among those and only hangar petship(aka 2 hangars) so I think it should be included especially since canon and a KDF heroes/archvillain ship depending on what angle you see it from. Considering some people main a sci, maybe they need include one of the "madeup" sci designs to cover all classes. Of course if they go with 5-6 ships price cant be same to the Fed one, obviously

    It was in 2 episodes and then never seen again, I'd hardly call it a hero ship...especially since it broke down.

    If you want a ship with two hangars then why not the Discovery D7 instead? Only fair since the Fed pack got the Discovery Connie (And preferably the Kelvin D7 since the Kelvin Connie was in it)
  • ucgsquawk#5883 ucgsquawk Member Posts: 279 Arc User
    B'rel
    D-7
    D-7 (disco)
    D-7 (kelvin)
    D-4 (Kelvin)
    Vor'cha
    Negh'Var
    Bortasqu (Klingon STO 'hero' ship)
    Raptor (Enterprise era ship)
    Sarcophagus Ship (just a guess, but a Disco era hero ship to add)

    There you go - an easy ten ship pack with everything from on screen (except Kelvin D-7, but it's a given as it's companion to Konnie, and Bortasqu but that's the STO hero ship).

  • foppotee#4552 foppotee Member Posts: 1,704 Arc User
    My fingers are crossed for a Legend Kamarag, long shot I know, or something similar in useage & that can use the looks.

    I also hope there's some sort of Legend Tor'Kaht, or again, something similar in useage & then can use the looks.

    All along with, the almost seems mandatory Legend B'rel then also: a Naj'sov or a Gorn Multi-Mission Vessel, a Legend Raptor would be awesome, a Legend D9 &/or D7 variant, then a Legend Battlecruiser, probably Vor'cha-esqe, but there's so many to choose from.

    I wouldn't mind a couple of the KDF Legend ships being not strictly "Klingon" neither, tossing in a Gorn, Orion, Lethean, &/or Nausicaan would be excellent representation.
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  • foppotee#4552 foppotee Member Posts: 1,704 Arc User
    I suspect a legendary KDF pack would be
    • B'rel
    • D7
    • Vor'cha
    • Negh'Var
    • Bortasqu

    What no Raptor? If you include a Raptor something then you've possibly hit all the KDF major food groups, ship types, lol but 6 KDF ships then 1 of each from Orion, Gorn, Lethean, & Nausicaan I'd buy that!
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  • ucgsquawk#5883 ucgsquawk Member Posts: 279 Arc User
    I suspect a legendary KDF pack would be
    • B'rel
    • D7
    • Vor'cha
    • Negh'Var
    • Bortasqu

    Needs Disco and Kelvin D-7s...maybe another Disco or Kelvin ship. I would say the Raptor just because it's the only Enterprise era ship in game.

    A ten pack is very easily done.
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  • spiritbornspiritborn Member Posts: 4,435 Arc User
    lianthelia wrote: »
    lordmerc22 wrote: »
    I think the best would be to go for a 5-6 ship pack, B'Rel, Negh'Tev, Vorcha, D7 and Sarcophagus. Sarcophagus is only dread among those and only hangar petship(aka 2 hangars) so I think it should be included especially since canon and a KDF heroes/archvillain ship depending on what angle you see it from. Considering some people main a sci, maybe they need include one of the "madeup" sci designs to cover all classes. Of course if they go with 5-6 ships price cant be same to the Fed one, obviously

    It was in 2 episodes and then never seen again, I'd hardly call it a hero ship...especially since it broke down.

    If you want a ship with two hangars then why not the Discovery D7 instead? Only fair since the Fed pack got the Discovery Connie (And preferably the Kelvin D7 since the Kelvin Connie was in it)
    The Sarcophagus was many episodes of season 1 of DSC as it was the House Kor Flag ship until it was destroyed in the finale of season 1.

    That said I'd still think the D7 or Cleave ship would be more "iconic" Klingon ships from DSC and we got all possible versions of the Connie so D7(ToS), D7 (Kelvin) and D7 (DSC) would be like candidates for a legendary ship. K'tinga is not likely as seperate ship but as skin for the D7(tos) it's possible.
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  • lordmerc22lordmerc22 Member Posts: 776 Arc User
    lianthelia wrote: »
    lordmerc22 wrote: »
    I think the best would be to go for a 5-6 ship pack, B'Rel, Negh'Tev, Vorcha, D7 and Sarcophagus. Sarcophagus is only dread among those and only hangar petship(aka 2 hangars) so I think it should be included especially since canon and a KDF heroes/archvillain ship depending on what angle you see it from. Considering some people main a sci, maybe they need include one of the "madeup" sci designs to cover all classes. Of course if they go with 5-6 ships price cant be same to the Fed one, obviously

    It was in 2 episodes and then never seen again, I'd hardly call it a hero ship...especially since it broke down.

    If you want a ship with two hangars then why not the Discovery D7 instead? Only fair since the Fed pack got the Discovery Connie (And preferably the Kelvin D7 since the Kelvin Connie was in it)

    If you mean for personal preferance I like DSC D7 and Sarcophagus equally. Generally I like 2 hangar ships. Nowadays I T6Xed the KDF Fleet support carrier(fleet vo'quv t6) and using it mostly - on the new skin even. I got the mirror and normal skins choices too.

    But my thinking behind why they would include Sarcophagus is another. It was T'kuvmas ship and used for many generations of ancenstors, a symbol for the klingons of that era - a museum of their history in a way so the importance to the empire is significant, especially when we consider T'kuvmas importance to klingons as well. It would be hard to exclude it from a legendary bundle if you wanted to outline the ships legendary status.

    That said in the end its not impossible we hope and speculate for nothing. If the Romulan legendary bundle is any indication, if cryptic thinks they wont make a lot they just will make 1-3 ships along with a bit fluff included in same pack. So personally, I try to keep my hopes in check
  • spiritbornspiritborn Member Posts: 4,435 Arc User
    spiritborn wrote: »
    The Sarcophagus was many episodes of season 1 of DSC as it was the House Kor Flag ship until it was destroyed in the finale of season 1.
    Slight correction. The Sarcophagus was destroyed above Pahvo at the end of episode 9. Season 1 had 15 episodes.

    My bad forgot about the MU arc.
  • ucgsquawk#5883 ucgsquawk Member Posts: 279 Arc User
    Needs Disco and Kelvin D-7s...maybe another Disco or Kelvin ship. I would say the Raptor just because it's the only Enterprise era ship in game.

    A ten pack is very easily done.
    See
    Because Legendary ships have never been about hitting every kind of ship, they have been about iconic/hero ships. There has never been an iconic raptor class. Hell, the class didn't even exist until Enterprise, and it appeared in all of one episode.

    Same reason I would doubt there would ever be a legendary Gorn/Orion/Nausicaan ship, bundle or not. The same goes for Feds. I doubt we will see a legendary Nova, Oberth, Saber, Cheyenne, or even a Miranda, let alone species based ships like Andorian, Vulcan, or Tellarite.
    While I would like it to be there, I would be surprised if said pack included a Kelvin D7, since it barely featured in the movie. And I would doubt to see a raptor because of the above.

    Maybe the Disco D7 due to its prominence in the finale, but thats about it.

    You mentioned only hero/iconic ships...like the Mirror Galaxy Dreadnought? A mirror version of a single episode one-off ship from an alternate future.
    That's not hero or iconic. No reason not to get those ships for the Klingons. You do have to make some allowances here and there.

    I DO however agree that we wouldn't see non-Klingon ships like the Orions and Gorn in the bundle...maybe down the road as it's own but not in the bundle.

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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 59,174 Community Moderator
    My prediction still stands at:
    • B'Rel
    • TOS D7
    • DSC D7
    • Kelvin D7
    • Vor'cha
    • Negh'var
    • Bortasqu'

    Just like the Fed bundle, you got all 3 variants of the iconic Klingon ship, the D7, you got the rest of the canon Klingon ships, and the STO flagship.

    Would they add the Sarco? I don't know. It was technically a hero ship. While the Somraw would be nice... it does suffer from the fact that it is a level up ship with no C-Store variant. All the legendaries come with all variants for customization, and all the associated consoles. The Somraw... has no consoles, and only a mirror skin. Its a bit harder to justify the Somraw based on established history of legendaries.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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  • theantisainttheantisaint Member Posts: 170 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    My prediction still stands at:
    • B'Rel
    • TOS D7
    • DSC D7
    • Kelvin D7
    • Vor'cha
    • Negh'var
    • Bortasqu'

    Just like the Fed bundle, you got all 3 variants of the iconic Klingon ship, the D7, you got the rest of the canon Klingon ships, and the STO flagship.

    Would they add the Sarco? I don't know. It was technically a hero ship. While the Somraw would be nice... it does suffer from the fact that it is a level up ship with no C-Store variant. All the legendaries come with all variants for customization, and all the associated consoles. The Somraw... has no consoles, and only a mirror skin. Its a bit harder to justify the Somraw based on established history of legendaries.

    Although it may not be considered "legendary," they could add the K'vort to sweeten the pot.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 59,174 Community Moderator
    I still don't see the appeal of a copy/paste upscaled B'Rel. Not only that... there isn't one in game to work off of anyways. They have yet to make an entirely brand new ship for a Legendary. They have all been variants of existing ships.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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  • gilleylen#2528 gilleylen Member Posts: 67 Arc User
    I think a Legendary Klingon pack should come with J'Ula outfit, and a Legendary D7 as a T3, T5 and T6. Maybe just as a T6 and outfits. I love the idea that the Romulan pack was like 13000 for 1 plus, maybe they can do that to the Federation soon
  • foppotee#4552 foppotee Member Posts: 1,704 Arc User
    edited November 2020
    I just get this gut fear that Cryptic won't be offering a Legend KDF pack with similar parity of the Legend Fed pack & that is a shame, but I hope I'm incorrect.
  • lordmerc22lordmerc22 Member Posts: 776 Arc User
    I just get this gut fear that Cryptic won't be offering a Legend KDF pack with similar parity of the Legend Fed pack & that is a shame, but I hope I'm incorrect.

    At this point? if we get at least 3 ships in a lengendary pack with fair price I will be happy, but no matter what we debate everything is on Cryptic's court
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