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Workaround for Stuck X-Traits.

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I was just told in-game in DPS-Diamond of a workaround for stuck x-traits. If you aren't aware of what that is, x-traits are getting stuck with whatever was first put into them and swapping back to it on map change, such as entering a TFO.

The workaround for stuck x-trait seems to be to go to ship manager, select trait from inside manager, swap ships, swap back; if it's not fixed, try again.

The workaround for stuck x-trait with multiple x-trait ships seems to be similar: go to ship manager, select trait from inside manager, swap ships to another affected ship and swap that one's trait, swap back to the original ship; if it's not fixed, try again.

I've tested the first method thus far and it works.

Hope it helps someone having a problem with this issue.
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  • peterconnorfirstpeterconnorfirst Member Posts: 5,886 Arc User
    Oh cool. I think that will be a great deal of help for quite a few peeps.

    Thanks for linking this Sea. 😃
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  • puttrek#3578 puttrek Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    I have this problem too.This is the BIG issue for DPS ship because at the day of X-trait launch it can be swept freely but after yesterday patch the X trait will roll back to the first trait every time that you go into the TFO, it really matter to me because the x trait that stuck is not compatible to each of my build for each scenario.

    GREATLY HELP - It really works .
  • chrisevans34chrisevans34 Member Posts: 250 Arc User
    shall try
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,096 Arc User
    Oh cool. I think that will be a great deal of help for quite a few peeps.

    Thanks for linking this Sea. 😃


    I tried it, at the ship yard, as suggested. I beam into space, bam, reverted! I go into TFO, reverted! This has got to be the shoddiest patch ever. I spent an hour preparing and training up summer ship, for the trait, only to find out I can't even use it. FFS!
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  • darkbladejkdarkbladejk Member Posts: 2,662 Community Moderator
    How many of you guys have had it work for you so far would you say, and any others you may have told about it best guess? I'm going to make sure the Cryptic team and some other folks see this for now until a proper fix can be implemented. until then it's better than nothing.
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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 9,598 Arc User
    edited October 2020
    How many of you guys have had it work for you so far would you say, and any others you may have told about it best guess? I'm going to make sure the Cryptic team and some other folks see this for now until a proper fix can be implemented. until then it's better than nothing.

    I can only speak for myself, but I have upgraded 5 ships so far, and all of them can swap traits with no problem. It should be noted though, that in all 5 cases when I upgraded the ship, I did assign it a trait right there inside the upgrade window. This is why it sounded like this 'fix' might actually work. I had heard it worked for a few people and was hoping it would help someone, but apparently even the fix is kind of hit and miss.

    Still, your willingness to get attention on the issue is appreciated.

    I doubt it's relevant, but here are the ships I have upgraded that currently work (at least for me.)

    Kelvin Timeline Intel Dreadnought Cruiser (Vengeance.)
    Miracle Worker Flight Deck Carrier - Constitution Class
    Miracle Worker Flight Deck Carrier - D7 Class.
    Tzenkethi Tzen Tar Dreadnought Carrier.
    Shamshir Operations Dreadnought Warbird
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  • chastity1337chastity1337 Member Posts: 1,295 Arc User
    How many of you guys have had it work for you so far would you say, and any others you may have told about it best guess? I'm going to make sure the Cryptic team and some other folks see this for now until a proper fix can be implemented. until then it's better than nothing.

    I can only speak for myself, but I have upgraded 5 ships so far, and all of them can swap traits with no problem. It should be noted though, that in all 5 cases when I upgraded the ship, I did assign it a trait right there inside the upgrade window.

    I tried to do this and wasn't allowed to. I did the upgrade at my Fleet Starbase, and it wouldn't let me change traits there, telling me traits can only be modified in a social zone. Best as I could tell last night, I wasn't having any trouble with it "reverting".

  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,096 Arc User
    How many of you guys have had it work for you so far would you say, and any others you may have told about it best guess? I'm going to make sure the Cryptic team and some other folks see this for now until a proper fix can be implemented. until then it's better than nothing.

    I can only speak for myself, but I have upgraded 5 ships so far, and all of them can swap traits with no problem. It should be noted though, that in all 5 cases when I upgraded the ship, I did assign it a trait right there inside the upgrade window. This is why it sounded like this 'fix' might actually work. I had heard it worked for a few people and was hoping it would help someone, but apparently even the fix is kind of hit and miss.

    Still, your willingness to get attention on the issue is appreciated.


    As is your willingness to bring the 'fix' to our attention. :)

    Just for clarification, does 'select trait from inside manager' mean clicking on the new trait slot itself? Or just from the regular traits manager?
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  • gaevsmangaevsman Member Posts: 2,825 Arc User
    How many of you guys have had it work for you so far would you say, and any others you may have told about it best guess? I'm going to make sure the Cryptic team and some other folks see this for now until a proper fix can be implemented. until then it's better than nothing.

    I can only speak for myself, but I have upgraded 5 ships so far, and all of them can swap traits with no problem. It should be noted though, that in all 5 cases when I upgraded the ship, I did assign it a trait right there inside the upgrade window.

    I tried to do this and wasn't allowed to. I did the upgrade at my Fleet Starbase, and it wouldn't let me change traits there, telling me traits can only be modified in a social zone. Best as I could tell last night, I wasn't having any trouble with it "reverting".

    Yeah, Fleet starbases are never considered social zones, dont know why, and at this point, i dont care, it should be, but oh, well.. anyway, havent tested, as i havent upgraded any ship yet. Good to know there is a workaround at least
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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 9,598 Arc User
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    How many of you guys have had it work for you so far would you say, and any others you may have told about it best guess? I'm going to make sure the Cryptic team and some other folks see this for now until a proper fix can be implemented. until then it's better than nothing.

    I can only speak for myself, but I have upgraded 5 ships so far, and all of them can swap traits with no problem. It should be noted though, that in all 5 cases when I upgraded the ship, I did assign it a trait right there inside the upgrade window. This is why it sounded like this 'fix' might actually work. I had heard it worked for a few people and was hoping it would help someone, but apparently even the fix is kind of hit and miss.

    Still, your willingness to get attention on the issue is appreciated.


    As is your willingness to bring the 'fix' to our attention. :)

    Just for clarification, does 'select trait from inside manager' mean clicking on the new trait slot itself? Or just from the regular traits manager?

    When I did the initial ship upgrade, I was talking to the Ship Selector. While still in that panel, after doing the upgrade, I clicked on the ship trait slot that was now unlocked and was taken to the traits screen where I slotted the trait I intended to use.

    I have no idea if that is in any way relevant to the issue, but I guess it could be.
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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,096 Arc User
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    How many of you guys have had it work for you so far would you say, and any others you may have told about it best guess? I'm going to make sure the Cryptic team and some other folks see this for now until a proper fix can be implemented. until then it's better than nothing.

    I can only speak for myself, but I have upgraded 5 ships so far, and all of them can swap traits with no problem. It should be noted though, that in all 5 cases when I upgraded the ship, I did assign it a trait right there inside the upgrade window. This is why it sounded like this 'fix' might actually work. I had heard it worked for a few people and was hoping it would help someone, but apparently even the fix is kind of hit and miss.

    Still, your willingness to get attention on the issue is appreciated.


    As is your willingness to bring the 'fix' to our attention. :)

    Just for clarification, does 'select trait from inside manager' mean clicking on the new trait slot itself? Or just from the regular traits manager?

    When I did the initial ship upgrade, I was talking to the Ship Selector. While still in that panel, after doing the upgrade, I clicked on the ship trait slot that was now unlocked and was taken to the traits screen where I slotted the trait I intended to use.

    I have no idea if that is in any way relevant to the issue, but I guess it could be.


    Thx. I tried it again, ship selector open, and clicking on T6-X trait slot. Then changed ship, and back. Now it worked. I have no idea that precise order (instead of just deselecting and rechoosing a trait from trait manager directly) is relevant, but that did it for me.
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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 9,598 Arc User
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    How many of you guys have had it work for you so far would you say, and any others you may have told about it best guess? I'm going to make sure the Cryptic team and some other folks see this for now until a proper fix can be implemented. until then it's better than nothing.

    I can only speak for myself, but I have upgraded 5 ships so far, and all of them can swap traits with no problem. It should be noted though, that in all 5 cases when I upgraded the ship, I did assign it a trait right there inside the upgrade window. This is why it sounded like this 'fix' might actually work. I had heard it worked for a few people and was hoping it would help someone, but apparently even the fix is kind of hit and miss.

    Still, your willingness to get attention on the issue is appreciated.


    As is your willingness to bring the 'fix' to our attention. :)

    Just for clarification, does 'select trait from inside manager' mean clicking on the new trait slot itself? Or just from the regular traits manager?

    When I did the initial ship upgrade, I was talking to the Ship Selector. While still in that panel, after doing the upgrade, I clicked on the ship trait slot that was now unlocked and was taken to the traits screen where I slotted the trait I intended to use.

    I have no idea if that is in any way relevant to the issue, but I guess it could be.


    Thx. I tried it again, ship selector open, and clicking on T6-X trait slot. Then changed ship, and back. Now it worked. I have no idea that precise order (instead of just deselecting and rechoosing a trait from trait manager directly) is relevant, but that did it for me.

    That's great to hear, I am happy you found a solution. :smiley:
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  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 2,363 Arc User
    edited October 2020
    gaevsman wrote: »
    How many of you guys have had it work for you so far would you say, and any others you may have told about it best guess? I'm going to make sure the Cryptic team and some other folks see this for now until a proper fix can be implemented. until then it's better than nothing.

    I can only speak for myself, but I have upgraded 5 ships so far, and all of them can swap traits with no problem. It should be noted though, that in all 5 cases when I upgraded the ship, I did assign it a trait right there inside the upgrade window.

    I tried to do this and wasn't allowed to. I did the upgrade at my Fleet Starbase, and it wouldn't let me change traits there, telling me traits can only be modified in a social zone. Best as I could tell last night, I wasn't having any trouble with it "reverting".

    Yeah, Fleet starbases are never considered social zones, dont know why, and at this point, i dont care, it should be, but oh, well.. anyway, havent tested, as i havent upgraded any ship yet. Good to know there is a workaround at least

    It might have something to do with the fact that they are not open to everyone, and iirc there was some talk about them possibly being used for fleet vs fleet PvP that was never implemented (not surprising with the way PvP has been loosing favor across the board).

    I have not upgraded anything yet either, I am undecided which ship to use the free token on and I only got a UR phoenix token a few hours after the event ended which, if it was still on, would have broken the quandary. There is always next time I suppose. Either way, it is good to know there is a workaround until the problem is fixed.
  • coldnapalmcoldnapalm Member Posts: 9,030 Arc User
    So...more of an annoyance work around is to remove all items, drydock your ship and pull it out. When you do this, you get what is basically a fresh copy of your ship so that has worked for me at least. Assuming this patch that is happening now doesn't fix the issue.
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,172 Arc User
    I was in Earth orbit and clicked on the T6X Button in the UI. I unslotted the Starship Trait in the sixth slot and slotted the new one. I then beamed to the Shuttle and switched to the last ship I used and immediately switched back. Exited, the Shuttle, back in the T6X Ship. Trait stayed and stayed after going to a bunch of places for the Endeavors.
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  • darkbladejkdarkbladejk Member Posts: 2,662 Community Moderator
    Potentially stupid question on this subject. Have any of you guys respecced your toons via the skills invalid thing like Borticus had asked folks to do. The reason they asked folks to do so was some traits could get stuck. I'm curious if this is a symptom of what Borticus was talking about. Even if it's not related, I swapped one of my 5 normal traits into the 6th trait slot and back and it worked fine for me from then on as well.
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  • lordmerc22lordmerc22 Member Posts: 776 Arc User
    Potentially stupid question on this subject. Have any of you guys respecced your toons via the skills invalid thing like Borticus had asked folks to do. The reason they asked folks to do so was some traits could get stuck. I'm curious if this is a symptom of what Borticus was talking about. Even if it's not related, I swapped one of my 5 normal traits into the 6th trait slot and back and it worked fine for me from then on as well.

    I think the auto-revert to them happens when they change maps. I didnt have a problem because I played the trait I wanted right away and only got one ship I upgraded.
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,172 Arc User
    I have only played the Character I Respecd.
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