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Legendary ships vs T6 ships?
jarfaru
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I would like to know what these legendary ships are compared to the T6 ships i already own please?
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If you'd like to look at all the stats, check https://sto.gamepedia.com/Playable_starship and 'Show' the 'Starfleet:' section to be able to view stats.
It's difficult to address all 10 ships in a single post, so I would suggest that you look at their stats either on the wiki or on the blogs. If you would like a specific ship or two broken down, than I'm sure that one of us could manage that for you.
With 1 LtC Sci slot used up by PO2 (+ IPO Trait), the lack of the second LtC Sci slot is felt (I meant to put DOC3 in there). But 6x Sci consoles, that's just wicked.
The only issues (that haven't been fixed yet) that I have with any of the ships so far are pattern issues with some of the Light Cruiser parts that I hope they fix. (Which I bug reported.) Of course, I'm not an expert on ship builds and min/maxing, and probably wouldn't last long if I ever tried to do PVP, but that's fine with me.
I don't think any of the C-Store Connies are nearly as good as the Promo one. The Promo Flight Deck Carrier is still the best Connie in the game IMO. The only thing the C-Store one has over the Promo is the account unlock (granted, that's huge.)
As for the difference between the Legendary and the regular C-Store version.. the Legendary are a little better for a huge amount of money. The 'regular' versions are just fine. The only ones to me that look like a real big upgrade are the Defiant and perhaps the Sovereign. The Odyssey is better overall, but it's hard to justify the cost if you already have the C-Store versions and you're just looking for an upgrade. It's just not enough given the cost.
the "little bit better for a huge amount of money" of course assumes you're buying for an upgrade, which yeah proably a waste. but if you happen to not have most of the ships, the pack is actually a pretty good deal.
Agreed completely.
I confess this was a lot of my motivation for it. I already had the lockbox Crossfield and Kelvinprise, but what I really wanted was the regular Connie, and I always had TRIBBLE luck with the promobox. The other additions proved to be worth it as well - the Disco-tution, the mirror goodies for the Crossfield, the Vizier Sovereign, the NX... so now if I end up using my 500 Zen a month on lockboxes and promoboxes, and somehow I DO get something, I can actually make some EC off it, heh.
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Yeah for those of us who don't have souls to sell for the promo ships this pack is great.
This is a statement i still cant understand because it is half truths. It is literally buying into the hands of people spreading false information. It's so ridiculous that it borders on if not falls under a bold faced lie.
Let's key in on cost wise. I own all these ships so I will speak to my experience. There are 2 infinity class ships and 2 lock box ships and 1 lobi ship in this set. Your statement sets that aside as if it's no big deal. We wont get into the monetary cost of those ships though we all know one infinity box ship cost more then the highest value package at a discount. Two of them would be worth more then the highest pack without a discount and you would get change back. A pack in which you are getting far more then if you purchased the ship. Put that in mind.
secondly. If you took the price of the highest ship pack and calculated our numbers from zero zen and split it in ten and add the sale in which it was released since that's what we are referring to, we will put it all into context. You are literally paying 22.00 usd per ship when each cstore ship is 30.00 Now granted if you missed the sale it would jump up to 45.00 per ship without the sale. So since this is referring to the release price then how exactly is it a huge price for a cstore ship when it is in fact cheaper you just happen to have to buy 10 of them in bulk. So how exactly is it that you are getting a slightly better item that comes with the most free stuff for slightly more when mathematically it is by all accounts slightly less? Almost a third of the price? And keep in mind you are including 2 lock box ships at a world value of 175-200 each not counting and 2 infinity at 225-300 each (Should be three since you get the Promo Discovery trait and console.) and one lobi that's around 250-300 if you open packs to get it.
Even if we took away all the additional free stuff and just took the legendary traits. You would be the same as if buying 10 new ships for ten new traits and it would be cheaper then buying 10 ships piecemeal.
And that is not even putting it to the cheaper version which would come out to 19.25 per ship. So again it is a half truth that is being spun to convenience a narrative. Yet when put to actual real world numbers it falls so woefully short that it is almost a lie.
In real world numbers this pack would cost 1460.00. Even more if I took the time to calculate not just the ship but each trait as a separate ship.
This is what aggravates me the most. People pretend as if this is a huge price when literally to purchase one of these promo ships beforehand literally costed more then the entire package. It's as if your statements removes that from the equations. Denigrating the ones who paid it originally so you can raise up your own argument when in fact that statement alone has been proven to be false. Literally in zen each ship is 2250 zen each 750 zen less then their counterparts for a slightly better ship.
Hmm... how exactly does one go about selling their soul because they have additional assets to spend on the video game you are enjoying? Each time we,, well no longer me, but each time they purchase an item does it not prolong the days weeks months years you can enjoy this game? Yet they are some sort of soulless apparition?
So in your mind anyone that has liquidity or enough expendable assets to purchase items in the game are some sort of moral-less abomination that sold their souls to corporations. So what does that make the workers at these corporations? Demons of some sort going about the world trying to tempt everyday mortals into relinquishing their souls and the souls of their first born for a video game item? And what does that make you? A saint that in fact desires to sell your soul but have yet to be given the opportunity because obviously from your statement you want the ship, you just haven't found a way to make your soul valuable enough that it could be traded in for it.
That is some weird Faustian concepts you got going on there.
There's no reason to take what was said so literally. There is no context to what you quoted justifying your extended metaphor.
For me, the Promo ship was cheaper because the Connie was all I wanted. The rest of the ships are a good enough value, I just really only wanted the Connie. For my needs, the Promo Ship has a better layout then the C-Store version so 'buying' one ship was much cheaper for me. All my characters fly different ships so all I needed was one. I had almost enough EC when the ship dropped, I think I spent about $10 to top off my resources.
Again though, in my case.. I already have the previous C-Store version of all the ships. If I didn't have any (or most) of those ships, then it would be a different story completely.
Stopped reading there, and you can go @#$% yourself. If you want to open a respectful dialogue then that's cool, but if you're going to come at me like that, for no reason at all, then you can cram it with walnuts. Everything I stated was my opinion and I am welcome to that just as you are. Calling someones opinion a 'bold faced lie' is a childish and ridiculous way to open a dialogue.
You're beneath me troll.
The only ship that is actually just barely better than the normal version is the Galaxy class. I can't even be bothered to use the legendary galaxy so far because it is so lackluster.
People have their own opinions. If you feel the upgrade is significant, then that's great.. but others are just as free to have their opinion as yours. Most of these ships, to me.. are just that.. Minor Improvements.
And people are entitled to disagree with other people's opinions. Such that I do with yours. That is why I went very in depth on why I feel so many are significant upgrades, though I never saw you explain why you believe its so... "Minor"
You should have stopped at "I still can't understand", instead of proceeeding with this long-winded ad hominem against seaofsorrows. He made a cogent case, for himself, that when you already own all the non-Legendary ships, that it is then "hard to justify the cost if you already have the C-Store versions and you're just looking for an upgrade. It's just not enough given the cost."
Yeah, except he wan't talking about all ships in the pack, but only about the existing C-Store versions vs. the new, Legendary ones. To which he concluded, that if you were only looking for a Defiant upgrade, and a slightly better Ody, the total deal of $150 isn't worth it -- a statement which I fully agree with, btw: it was quite a reasonable opinion, and most certainly not "a bold faced lie."
> Is it accurate to say they're comparable to Fleet T6 versions, or are they yet another step above that.
They're kind of a step above that in almost every case.
I mean what matters is your timing with buffs in tfos, how well and efficiently you can position.
I admit I prefer ships with a balance of toughnesa and agility. And surprisingly ive fallen in love with the legendary defiant currently. I also plan to make a presidio build at some point with high turning upgrades. I'm not perfect at this game, far from it. But my best results are most often in a balanced agile ship.
Thinking of ideas from lots of games for, dunno how long now.