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Legendary Allied Ship Packs Idea
westx211
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With the whole federation focus of the Legendary ship pack I think we need either multiple seperate packs, or one big pack for some of the other famous ships from star trek.
Also, warning for massive amount of text
Klingon Ships
1: TOS D7
2: Kelvin D7
3: Disco D7
4: Sarco
5: B'rel Bop
6: Bortas
7: Neghvar dreadnought cruiser
8: Insert idea for sci vessel here.
Skin wise I think the Sarco could have a modern klingon design like the other T6 klingon ships, and we could maybe see some concept art or something for the Kelvin D7, and for the TOS D7 I'd like to see a D7 that looks like a refit similar to the Enterprise A refit.
The Brel is an obvious choice since it's a fairly iconic ship, and of course we need the Bortasqu since the legendary pack had the odyssey. I also think the klingons really need a sci ship to be put in here, and then lastly Neghvar is another iconic ship that could use this upgrade.
Romulan Ships
1: TOS T'Liss
2: T'Laru
3: Assimalated Dreadnought(think the battlecruiser but made to be Nero's ship)
4: D'Deridex Flight Deck Carrier
5: New Scimitar
6: Romulan sci vessel
7: Romulan D7(with singularity core)
Of course we need each pack to have a little something of what the others have, and having the TOS Tliss and Tlaru in here helps it line up with the other packs. I think it would be a nice touch to get Nero's ship, and the D'Deridex really needs some love. Like the Sovvy I would love to see a Scimitar skin that's even more accurate to the film or some new update. Romulans also need an updated sci vessel. And the D7 I threw in there because it would give cryptic an excuse to finally add in the fabled romulan model of the D7. I also think that these ships that would have hangars would need new hangar pets. Make some Kestrels or new romulan fighters to toss on these. Maybe give the Tlaru a Kelvin inspired version of the Tliss as a hangar pet(which could also be the skin for the TOS Tliss)
Dominion Ship
1: Attack Ship.
2: Dreadnought Carrier
3: The Escort carrier but remodeled into a multi mission science vessel
4: The light battlecruiser but turned into a Dreadnought cruiser.
5: A new dominion ship to be a flagship like the Oddy, bortas, and scimitar
6: Cardassian Keldon Dreadnought cruiser
Unfortunately the dominion have far less notable ships, but I think a pack could still be made for them. Though all of their actual iconic ships are lockbox and a promo ship, I think this would work. The attack ship could be upgraded to a raise with no cloak, the escort carrier being made into a sci vessel helps them out since there is no Dominion science ship currently, and the Light battlecruiser could work as a dreadnought cruiser. The only one that's really iffy I think is the making a new flagship in the theme of the Oddy and the others. Although a bit out of place, I think a cardassian ship could also fit in due to their alliance with the dominion. Could have the keldon but with visuals updated like the C Store Cardassian ships, and with some Cardassian shuttle pets instead of those frigates
So any thoughts or ideas to add or discuss?
Also, warning for massive amount of text
Klingon Ships
1: TOS D7
2: Kelvin D7
3: Disco D7
4: Sarco
5: B'rel Bop
6: Bortas
7: Neghvar dreadnought cruiser
8: Insert idea for sci vessel here.
Skin wise I think the Sarco could have a modern klingon design like the other T6 klingon ships, and we could maybe see some concept art or something for the Kelvin D7, and for the TOS D7 I'd like to see a D7 that looks like a refit similar to the Enterprise A refit.
The Brel is an obvious choice since it's a fairly iconic ship, and of course we need the Bortasqu since the legendary pack had the odyssey. I also think the klingons really need a sci ship to be put in here, and then lastly Neghvar is another iconic ship that could use this upgrade.
Romulan Ships
1: TOS T'Liss
2: T'Laru
3: Assimalated Dreadnought(think the battlecruiser but made to be Nero's ship)
4: D'Deridex Flight Deck Carrier
5: New Scimitar
6: Romulan sci vessel
7: Romulan D7(with singularity core)
Of course we need each pack to have a little something of what the others have, and having the TOS Tliss and Tlaru in here helps it line up with the other packs. I think it would be a nice touch to get Nero's ship, and the D'Deridex really needs some love. Like the Sovvy I would love to see a Scimitar skin that's even more accurate to the film or some new update. Romulans also need an updated sci vessel. And the D7 I threw in there because it would give cryptic an excuse to finally add in the fabled romulan model of the D7. I also think that these ships that would have hangars would need new hangar pets. Make some Kestrels or new romulan fighters to toss on these. Maybe give the Tlaru a Kelvin inspired version of the Tliss as a hangar pet(which could also be the skin for the TOS Tliss)
Dominion Ship
1: Attack Ship.
2: Dreadnought Carrier
3: The Escort carrier but remodeled into a multi mission science vessel
4: The light battlecruiser but turned into a Dreadnought cruiser.
5: A new dominion ship to be a flagship like the Oddy, bortas, and scimitar
6: Cardassian Keldon Dreadnought cruiser
Unfortunately the dominion have far less notable ships, but I think a pack could still be made for them. Though all of their actual iconic ships are lockbox and a promo ship, I think this would work. The attack ship could be upgraded to a raise with no cloak, the escort carrier being made into a sci vessel helps them out since there is no Dominion science ship currently, and the Light battlecruiser could work as a dreadnought cruiser. The only one that's really iffy I think is the making a new flagship in the theme of the Oddy and the others. Although a bit out of place, I think a cardassian ship could also fit in due to their alliance with the dominion. Could have the keldon but with visuals updated like the C Store Cardassian ships, and with some Cardassian shuttle pets instead of those frigates
So any thoughts or ideas to add or discuss?
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A TOS era Romulan series that dealt with exploring their part of the galaxy along with the honorable old guard trying to hang on in the face of the growing corruption (the bunch that Decius belonged to in "Balance of Terror" and Joanne Linville's character obliquely mentioned in "The Enterprise Incident") would be interesting, and they could do just about anything with it without disturbing DSC or TOS at all since they had so little contact with the Federation at the time.
But, alas, no shows like that or even the part time hero stuff proposed for TOS season four have been made so the Feds are still the only ones with hero ships.
> The whole focus of the anniversary pack was hero ships (the ships the main characters used in various series and movies) not the Federation. So far none of the shows have focused on a ship and crew from any of the other interstellar governments (though TOS season four would have had Koloth and the G'roth as a sort of secondary hero ship part of the time (and antagonist the rest of the time) if the show was not cancelled at the end of the third season).
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> A TOS era Romulan series that dealt with exploring their part of the galaxy along with the honorable old guard trying to hang on in the face of the growing corruption (the bunch that Decius belonged to in "Balance of Terror" and Joanne Linville's character obliquely mentioned in "The Enterprise Incident") would be interesting, and they could do just about anything with it without disturbing DSC or TOS at all since they had so little contact with the Federation at the time.
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> But, alas, no shows like that or even the part time hero stuff proposed for TOS season four have been made so the Feds are still the only ones with hero ships.
I'm getting tired of that argument. It was supposed to be an anniversary pack of 10 years of sto. A game with more then just fed. If they were going to call it "federation hero ship pack" I could live with it. But they didnt. They tied it to the anniversary of the game, which like it or not, has more then just the federation. This was supposed to celebrate the game, NOT the TV shows.
More to the point of the op...you forgot the vor'cha in there...trade out one of the d7s for it
Don't get me wrong, I would have preferred if they had chosen a different theme for the anniversary and done ships that have not been relatively recently upgraded/had makeovers already, but they went for the hero ships thing (possibly since so many people ask for z-store versions of the hero ships) instead so mega-mega packs like the hero ship one are probably not likely to become a regular thing.
And the IKS Gorken is notable for being a series of books about a Klingon ship. It, the Bortasqu and the Rotarran are proably the closest Trek has to Klingon "Hero ships"
I think what would probably happen is they put in a Vorcha as the science vessel and give it the Qang class as a skin with how you describe it. And yeah it would make for a nice ship
They've said that gets complicated due to rights issues, they've done it before but I think it's unlikely to happen again. They only have the rights to things that have appeared in a movie or TV episode.
yeah never said it was likely just that might be a neat idea.
even if they didn't do that, I'd not mind seeing them take that for some inspiration and design their own Vor'cha MMSV. I'd honestly proably buy it
B'rel/defiant
Neg'var/galaxy
Vor'cha/sovy
Bortas/oddy
D7/Connie
Vo'qov (because t6 is long overdue)/crossfield or intrepid
I could do without disco ships, but sarco could fill either crossfield or intrepid stats
the science ships would be tricky, I still like the idea of a Vor'cha MMSV
Would also love if the science vessel was the TNG science vessel. I know they put it as a skin for the lifetime Romulan shuttle but it should be a science ship as well.
This is just my opinion but a D'deridex carrier doesn't really fit the depiction of the class, from what we see, on screen.
A Command-Intel D'deridex variant (possibly Tal Shiar in origin) would be nice to have though.
How about an Intel Dreadnaught Cruiser? Still get at least one hanger slot too.
If the hangar pets were modeled after the Romulan scoutship/Commander's Gig the Zen would leap out of my wallet.
It definitely needs intel as the main. Romulans and the D'Deridex are far more known for stealth and intel than command. If anything the Scimitar would make more sense for command as the flag ship
2021 Legendary Multi-Faction Pack
1. Excelsior - FED and FED Aligned
2. Nebula - FED and FED Aligned
3. Vengeance - FED and FED Aligned
4. D7/K'Tinga - KDF and KDF Aligned w/Romulan TOS skin
5. K'Vort - KDF and KDF Aligned (Larger and slower than a B'rel. Think like a KDF Morrigu)
6. Vor'Cha - KDF and KDF Aligned
7. T'Liss - All Factions
8. D'Deridex - All Factions
9. Jem'Hadar Dreadnought Carrier - All Factions
10. Cardassian Hideki - All Factions
2022 Legendary Multi-Faction Pack
1. Galaxy-X - FED and FED Aligned
2. Prometheus - FED and FED Aligned
3. Nova - FED and FED Aligned
4. B'rel - KDF and KDF Aligned
5. DSC D7 - KDF and KDF Aligned
6. Negh'Var - KDF and KDF Aligned
7. Scimitar - All Factions
8. T'Varo - All Factions
9. Jem'Hadar Attack Ship - All Factions (Unlocks JHAS Pets, See what I did there)
10. Cardassian Galor - All Factions (Make the Galor and Keldon separate ships to maximize profit)
2023 Legendary Multi-Faction Pack
1. Typhoon Battleship - FED and FED Aligned
2. Ambassador - FED and FED Aligned
3. Oberth - FED and FED Aligned
4. Vo'Quv - KDF and KDF Aligned
5. Bortasqu' - KDF and KDF Aligned
6. Sarcophagus Dreadnought - KDF and KDF Aligned
7. Mogai - All Factions
8. Ferengi Nagus Marauder - All Factions
9. Jem'Hadar Light Battlecruiser - All Factions
10. Cardassian Keldon - All Factions
I was glad the current legendary bundle didn't have a rom ship or two amongst all the fed ships, don't need them to do that now.
Id like to see a rom pack and a kdf pack separate from each other even if each pack is only 3-5 ships.
Wanna get feds to buy it? Slap some nice traits/consoles on em and they'll come whaling
The Ross legendary has two Command stations at Commander and Lieutenant grade so I could imagine a counterpart Legendary D'deridex also having two specialization seats available. Intel as primary with Command carrying on the legacy of the class seems appropriate.
D'deridex class ships are observed in command roles both in TNG and DS9 (but that's really no selling point as it's really the only 24th century Romulan ship seen in engagements on screen aside from the Scout Ship in TNG and the BOP in STP)
TBH I'd also put forward the suggestion that a Legendary Intel/? Scimitar would make sense given how in ST Nemesis the Scimitar employs targeting patterns, precision attacks and guile to disable ships it engages.