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Suggestions to improve Klingon, Romulan and other Factions
spudzillah
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my Idea is that after the discovery stuff has been wrapped make it where the alliance is force to split up due to each dealing with there own Enemy in there area of space to give each group more faction specific mission so Romulan would deal with the remit of the Romulan empire, the Klingon could be dealing with tholian or something like that but make more faction specific mission
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The Romulan Empire remnants has already been done and resolved and is no more. Federation has literally no disgruntled populations left. J'ula may elicit some Klingons, and that's about all that can be done faction-wise. But yes, they would and have been faced as an Alliance.
KDF failed as a PVP only faction and had to get a bunch of KDF only missions made for it which still didn't help a whole lot (though they remain some of the best missions.) Roms were built to be part of either faction to avoid that problem, and the subfactions of Feds were built with similar ideas to avoid making massive amounts of missions that only a tiny fraction will play through.
70% of the captains created are Federation, so it would double (or more) the cost of creating new episodes, that only a minority of the players would care about.
Other MMOs have made the same decision, even WoW despite it having a much larger player base.
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This is what I would really like to see, Klingons addressed as Klingons, Romulans as Romulans and Starfleet as Starfleet. It annoys me that all the dialogue is based around the character being from Starfleet. I know it would add work but honestly it's not that much more not EVERY bit of dialogue needs to be different.
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I, too, would like to see more of this, and honestly, would love to see all of the cross-faction mission dialogue re-worked to reflect variants in Faction and even Race where appropriate. When I play the Delta arc on my LibBorg, the Octanti definitely react differently towards me than as my other toons. Kobali-Harry has different dialogue if your toon isn't Federation. Imagine how the Voth would react differently towards a Saurian or Gorn.
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That would improve replay value too, if factions, races and career type triggered a slightly different experience.
For bonus points add other choices, like in the original DS9 arc gamma quadrant episode where you decide the fate of the Ferengi criminal.
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Not all Orions are pirates though (in fact Journey to Babel makes it quite clear that the pirates are a small enough subset of the population to be believably disavowed by their government to avoid diplomatic retaliation), so it would mean having to have two answer lines for Orions, which is something the devs seem to avoid a lot.
non pirates could just choose the "neutral" version.
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Yeah but they can't even differentiate dialogue between male and female captains which should be far easier to do since its just a pronoun change. It is insanely frustrating to play a female captain and to constantly get called "Sir" when Janeway put her foot down very early and never had to hear that nonsense again. Its insulting.
well yeah technically the RSE exist but when my admirality pool probably has more startships then the imperial romulan navy, we can pretty much call them done with. Besides way things are going that vacation at Rator III shouldn't be that far off and without a fight too.
As Baddmoon said, just a different narrative that made my klingon actually feel like a klingon, and I'd jump ship and play it far more than I would my Federation characters.
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While this is true. As you later pointed out, just the different narrative. For example, if I'm playing on my klingon, just treating treating that character as a klingon, would make it worth it. Right now, even the klingons you interact with in the missions, don't even feel like klingons. They're just more Federation drones, that pretend to be aggressive.
Just from the narrative side of it. They could do a:
Federation characters interact with Federation Personnel.
KDF character interact with KDF Personnel.
This could work at the beginning, of each mission to serve as a means of setting the narrative for at least the factions. This way, like the foundry, where you had to choose which faction it was for, Fed or KDF. This also meant that if you want to do a Foundry mission, for both factions, you'd have to go into one side or the other, and change up how the player would respond. Even some of the narrative's approach. For example using the same NPC both sides, but it being friendly toward one faction, and stand-offish toward another. This is what we had access to in the Foundry. fairly basic.
Cryptic has access to the entire thing. They could set the narrative per faction. Such as:
Federation - (all, including AoY and Discovery)
KDF - Klingon, Orion, Naussican, Gorn, Lethean, and alien.
Romulan - Romulan, Reman, and Alien.
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This way, at least your faction choose would feel important. It would also increase replay value. Since now, each faction is treated in it's own way.
Personally, right now, I don't replay missions on alts. I generally get to level 11, open the Duty Officer assignment, park it, and level it that way. Simply because I don't want to bother with the repeating the same narrative over and over. I can't even bring myself to do this on my Romulan Delta Recruit, even though I need to for the rewards still. It's just not worth the boredom of repeating the same missions and narratives again.
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Honestly, that just makes it worse. They do it once, and then in the next mission, sometimes even the next scene, they're back to assuming that the PC is a human male Starfleet captain. I played that mission on my Fed Rom, and she acknowledged Morgan was a Romulan but then went right back to blathering about the Federation literally one map change later.
If they would do it with some consistency, that would be awesome.
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