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Also nice to see him TRIBBLE up. (Admittedly, I think he already did do so in the Klingon story arc. My Klingon Captain blows up several Starfleet vessels that he calls in to delay me. That was really, really dumb of him.)
Section 31 as the untouchable unbeatable entity never sits well with me.
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And now we get to deal with the people somehow even MORE edgy than the Mirror Universe...which we're dealing with already because "Killy" is still a living antagonist.
I can't wait for a crossover Mirror 31 lockbox, featuring all-black outfits covered in knives, eyepatches, goatees, and a "lawless attitude that does what Starfleet don't". Brilliant.
How is Lt. Commander VanZyl still a Lt. Commander? After the Klingon arc, Delta Rising, Iconian War and several conflicts since then? There should be plenty of opportunity to advance. She should be a Commander or Captain at least.
How is Lt. Commander VanZyl still a Lt. Commander? After the Klingon arc, Delta Rising, Iconian War and several conflicts since then? There should be plenty of opportunity to advance. She should be a Commander or Captain at least.
Harry Kim was an ensign for seven years, and is still only a captain today. Nog was commissoned Lieutenant during (IIRC) the last season of DS9, and he's just a captain too. When compared to these, LCDR VanZyl just doesn't have the time in grade to be considered for promotion. That's what happens when one of the species responsible for creating Starfleet has an average lifespan of over 250 years.
The only way she can advance in rank is for you to create a VanZyl Character. She'd be a Fleet Admiral in two or three days.
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How is Lt. Commander VanZyl still a Lt. Commander? After the Klingon arc, Delta Rising, Iconian War and several conflicts since then? There should be plenty of opportunity to advance. She should be a Commander or Captain at least.
Given what happened to her in DR, it's possible she's not been active for medical reasons.
How is Lt. Commander VanZyl still a Lt. Commander? After the Klingon arc, Delta Rising, Iconian War and several conflicts since then? There should be plenty of opportunity to advance. She should be a Commander or Captain at least.
Harry Kim was an ensign for seven years, and is still only a captain today. Nog was commissoned Lieutenant during (IIRC) the last season of DS9, and he's just a captain too. When compared to these, LCDR VanZyl just doesn't have the time in grade to be considered for promotion. That's what happens when one of the species responsible for creating Starfleet has an average lifespan of over 250 years.
Are you sure we did not become Fleet Admirals in a year and a half because we are just that Special?
Post-ENT Trek's mad passionate love affair with unaccountable ultranationalist terrorist deep state groups continues apace, I see.
> @disqord#9557 said: > And now we get to deal with the people somehow even MORE edgy than the Mirror Universe...which we're dealing with already because "Killy" is still a living antagonist. > > I can't wait for a crossover Mirror 31 lockbox, featuring all-black outfits covered in knives, eyepatches, goatees, and a "lawless attitude that does what Starfleet don't". Brilliant.
Also this.
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It would be nice having a mission arc on taking down Section 31
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Actually when we first meet VanZyl back during the Klingon Arc, she's only a Lieutenant. Next time we see her in Delta Rising she's a Lt. Commander.
I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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And now we get to deal with the people somehow even MORE edgy than the Mirror Universe...which we're dealing with already because "Killy" is still a living antagonist.
I can't wait for a crossover Mirror 31 lockbox, featuring all-black outfits covered in knives, eyepatches, goatees, and a "lawless attitude that does what Starfleet don't". Brilliant.
Ooooo.... Mirror Section 31. I'd not considered this possibility. Bring it on!
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And now we get to deal with the people somehow even MORE edgy than the Mirror Universe...which we're dealing with already because "Killy" is still a living antagonist.
I can't wait for a crossover Mirror 31 lockbox, featuring all-black outfits covered in knives, eyepatches, goatees, and a "lawless attitude that does what Starfleet don't". Brilliant.
Ooooo.... Mirror Section 31. I'd not considered this possibility. Bring it on!
Maybe they are the honest ones, in that dimension.
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Would Mirror Section 31 be the Diplomatic Corps lead by Sugihara in the Mirror Universe?
I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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It would be nice having a mission arc on taking down Section 31
Taking down Section 31 would likely be impossible. They have no central command or leadership, they are a bunch of cells who don't even know who the other cells are, and they have been operating for well over 200 years at this point. You could very likely spend decades hunting down Section 31 cell by cell, and never be really sure you got them all as they would inevitably make more cells, recruit more members, and go even further underground then they are now.
In all honesty, you have a better chance of totally dismantling the Orion Syndicate then taking down Sec 31, and the Orion Syndicate is unlikely to go down in any foreseeable future.
Exactly.
Only way I could see "taking down" Section 31 being possible is convincing them to become an official black ops division of Starfleet Intelligence, which they sort seemed to be in DSC era.
In my personal headcanon, something happened between 2250s and "modern time" that caused Section 31 to become a rogue orginization with no connections to UFP goverment, well no sanctioned connections anyway (thus explaining the difference between section 31 in DSC and DS9).
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Section 13 runs around undermining all of Mirror Starfleet's worst operations, secretly convincing people to be nice and do the right thing. Drake is actually head of Mirror Starfleet Operations; Section 13 is run by a rogue Trill named Quinn.
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Section 31 as the untouchable unbeatable entity never sits well with me.
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I can't wait for a crossover Mirror 31 lockbox, featuring all-black outfits covered in knives, eyepatches, goatees, and a "lawless attitude that does what Starfleet don't". Brilliant.
I don't think it is at the moment. But left open just in case.
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And that you can trust Drake as far as I could throw him.
Are you sure we did not become Fleet Admirals in a year and a half because we are just that Special?
> @disqord#9557 said:
> And now we get to deal with the people somehow even MORE edgy than the Mirror Universe...which we're dealing with already because "Killy" is still a living antagonist.
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> I can't wait for a crossover Mirror 31 lockbox, featuring all-black outfits covered in knives, eyepatches, goatees, and a "lawless attitude that does what Starfleet don't". Brilliant.
Also this.
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Ooooo.... Mirror Section 31. I'd not considered this possibility. Bring it on!
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Maybe they are the honest ones, in that dimension.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
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Exactly.
Only way I could see "taking down" Section 31 being possible is convincing them to become an official black ops division of Starfleet Intelligence, which they sort seemed to be in DSC era.
In my personal headcanon, something happened between 2250s and "modern time" that caused Section 31 to become a rogue orginization with no connections to UFP goverment, well no sanctioned connections anyway (thus explaining the difference between section 31 in DSC and DS9).
Nice
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