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I played a year back and there was some kind of xp bonus going on that lasted forever , so I got to level 50 quickly...
.... and then I couldn't play. Everything trounced my T4 ships and there wasn't much I could do about it.
So I"m wondering, do you have to buy T6 ships to get past that hump ? Am I just a terrible player ? 'Cause I went into a random star system and picked on a single mob, (a romulan) and it pretty much one or two shotted me even though it was my level.
And if it is a requirement ...why don't htey just post that you need to eventually buy one ? The surprise requirement is a really nasty thing to stumble over.
.... and then I couldn't play. Everything trounced my T4 ships and there wasn't much I could do about it.
So I"m wondering, do you have to buy T6 ships to get past that hump ? Am I just a terrible player ? 'Cause I went into a random star system and picked on a single mob, (a romulan) and it pretty much one or two shotted me even though it was my level.
And if it is a requirement ...why don't htey just post that you need to eventually buy one ? The surprise requirement is a really nasty thing to stumble over.
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To answer your question about T6, no you do not need a T6 ship to be "good" at STO.
Not at all. It's just getting to know the trick of the opponents and their counters. Once you know those the mobs are in general pretty easy to dispose of.
For Romulans their favorite trick in space to tractor beam you and lob high yield torpedoes at you.
So you need a counter against tractor beam (or just stay more than 5Km away from the Romulans). The science boff power "Polarize hull" is the easiest way for that.
Second is the high yield targetable torpedoes. Shoot them down before they reach you. E,g, with BFAW, Tractor Beam Repulsors or simply by targeting them.
Are you familiar with skillplanner?
https://skillplanner.stoacademy.com/
If you can show us your build there then more specific suggestions can be made.
Edit: Forgot to add the distance to stay away from Romulans
In the meantime... maybe we can help you with your ship build in some way.
If there does happen to be something in the C-Store you really want, I would wait till the end of the month for the 'Black Friday Sale.' Otherwise, for now, you should be fine with what you have, you need to work on your build and power rotation more then likely.
In regards to T5s. There are a handful of old T5 lockbox ships that can now be had for very little EC. The infinity lockbox has a T5 ship prize pack, they don't have much value anymore and you can get a bunch of good T5 lockbox grade ships for 5-6 million ec. (which is not a lot of EC anymore)
You can pick up the Ferengi D'kora cruiser... Hirogen Hunter escort... Tholian Orb science ship... Nicor bioship... Voth Bastian flight deck. Those are all Ex lockbox grand prize T5s that can still compete in all content. They also get a free upgrade unlock as they are lockbox class ships. There are a handful of other T5 ships like the mirror ships, the APU cruiser, Malon cruiser and a few others that are decent as well. But for the price you can't go wrong with one of the Ex lockbox options.
Yup, many of the T5 lockbox ships have had a huge price drop. Good time to grab one or many.
Great advice, those are all great ships that can handle any content you would need.
Have a look on the exchange, you can probably find some bargains on these ships. One of these ships can easily get you by until the Winter Event which will get you a free T6. Even then, one of these would be just as good and possibly better then the free T6 but all should be more then capable.
If you want something that is relatively cheap in terms of EC, then I would advise picking up a Ferengi D'kora as some of the others have advised. It's got a good balanced setup which will give you a great starting point to get rolling again. There are plenty of budget options that you can get for free or next to nothing and have the ship kitted out in about 4 days or less. If you're not sure where to get started you're more than welcome to give me a PM and I can help you out.
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This should give you some good ideas how to proceed going forward.
If you do not want to commit to Tier6 ships yet, then you can also use a free Tier 5 Retrofit ship which becomes available at level50.
https://sto.gamepedia.com/Player_rank#Ship_Requisitions
The thing is, there are literally hundreds of builds which work well, and there are thousands that a player with enough experience can make to work, but the inexperienced player has never anywhere in the game been exposed to the idea that it matters how you assign Skills, choose Powers, and use ship's Power Settings. Then at around level 50 it starts to matter and you are stuck with the choices you've made all along.
Before you use a Captain's Retrain Token, get good advice from a mentor about your build. Guessing can cost you a lot of Zen!
My bad.
The ships available at level 61 i already had in my inventory so did not notice exactly when they became available.
Gear Mark and rarity is not unimportant, but it sometimes is more important that the gear actually fits together, and it also fits to your bridge officer powers selection.
A really ultra-cheap start without anything that requires more investment be too look into the following things:
While I mention this as an "early" strategy - it's also an extremely popular that remains viable and highly competitive at endgame.
If you're flying a Science Vessel, you might take a very different approach from the one listed above. Aux2Bat for example is highly counterproductive, since one of your primary damage sources is not weapons, but science abilities, that all need the Auxiliary power.
Beyond build, tactics and maneuvering can also be important. Vaadwaur for example have a well telegraphed artillery attack - you might want to hit Evasive Maneuvers to get out of the range. They also have some Tri-Cobalt Mine field launcher - you don't want to be close to that either and leave yourself some maneuvering room, because they hit like a Space Truck.
Romulans have Tractor Beam and a nasty form of High Yield Torpedoes - getting within 5 km or less means you can't outrun them and gives you less reaction time to activate something like beam fire at will. Hirogen and Bren have Subnucleonic Beam, going in with all buffs activated might mean they get all removed instantly and you plink away completely unbuffed - better wait them out a bit and then use Science Team to remove the cooldown extension. The bigger Hirogen ships have Jam Sensors instead of SNB, so again, going in fully buffed can end you up seeing no enemy and your buffs running out - have Science Team ready to counter the Jam Sensors.Some Voth ships have directional barrier shields - anticipate that and get them to trigger that shield and then attack from another direction. Stuff like that are things you can learn by watching your enemy.
If you end up dying, remember one thing: While most of the time, high end builds will focus on AoE effects to kill as many enemies as possible at once, but if you need to consider respawns and all that, focus on getting the enemy down one by one. Dead enemies can't heal. (Notable exception on ground combat: Some NPC groups have Medics. They can revive dead enemies. Kill Medics first. Only the Voth have something like that, sometimes a repair ship is spawned - take it out before it revives that Bastion Battlecruiser that gave you so much trouble)
EDIT:
In general, the three biggest weaknesses of Tier 5 ships (especially not upgradeable ones)
Overall I would say that a Tier 5 ship will probably need to devote a bit more of its abilities to healing than a Tier 6 ship will, simply because you're more fragile and can't really compensate that with better damage output anymore.
> The take away I get here is "Stay away from romulans" after 50...
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Fyi, you will get a free tier 5 at lol 61 or 62 IIRC.
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The MU ships are the tier 4.5. Dang, this makes me want to pull some of those oldies from storage.
In that case it'd probably help to look at a list of mission rewards and cherry pick the ones you could make use of to bolster the ship and skip the rest til later.
A slightly cheekier option is to hit the badlands BZ and make use of other players to help with the killing while you gather rep tokens that can either be used for specific gear or use the weapons from the daily box to bodge together something while you work towards your intended set. Low grade gear means less XP but the goal is marks and that isn't effected by how well you can do the the mindless pewpew side.
This is excellent advice, and something I completely overlooked, which is strange since I wrote a how-to many moons ago about cherry-picking gear:
Build As You Go: Mission Rewards Get You Where You Want To Be
The exact choices I made back then are now obsolete due to the many changes in STO since then, but the idea is still sound: look over the mission rewards available to your character, make a 'best of' list, and grind those missions a few times. A reward that drops as Mk VI the first time you run the mission will drop as Mk VIII later, then Mk X, etc. as your level improves.
Note: The Psionic Shield available from Skirmish still has no equal when dealing with Undine. Until I manage to get sets, it's my default for all my BOffs, and I've regrinded that mission so many times I can now do it in my sleep.
On the Badlands: If you choose this route, please take time to make friends. They can be a fountain of sage advice on builds and gear. Disclaimer: do not spend dil or Zen on stuff until you are certain it's what you want to do! Other guys can use a particular meta which doesn't work for you.
I just re-read my old thread and came across a piece of advice about the Borg and Pulsewave Assault Weapons: It Is No Longer True That Borg Adapt By Number Of Hits Instead Of Aggregate Damage! That was true earlier on. Back then I'd get about eight hits with a Pusewave before having to use my Frequency Remodulator. Now I get two. It helps to have a second weapon with a different energy type so you can shoot until they adapt, switch weapons, shoot till they adapt, then remodulate, which fixes both weapons.
True enough, but my guide was intended for a new guy coming up, and its purpose was more to point out a way of thinking about the gea you get for free than finding the very best. By the time I was grinding my Romulan engineer I already had a hand full of level 60+ characters, but I wanted to play it as if I was brand new to the game and see what was out there. Turns out, quite a lot if you look for it.
Just the Paratrinic Shield, for example, can make a huge difference to a newbie player. I think I got the idea of going back and farming upgrades for free from Husanak. If you're still around, dude, go back and rewrite all your old guides with the new stuff in mind.