Did not expect this to be the 2nd mission. Wondering what comes afterwards.
Also: Now that I see them clearly, I'm not liking those nacelles. Would it be possible to have a few TOS options for DSC ships in the Ship tailor? Even if it's just nacelles and the Type 0 material?
Did not expect this to be the 2nd mission. Wondering what comes afterwards.
Also: Now that I see them clearly, I'm not liking those nacelles. Would it be possible to have a few TOS options for DSC ships in the Ship tailor? Even if it's just nacelles and the Type 0 material?
The disco staff seems to hate TOS style engine pods, for some reason.
The have a big fetish for rectangular features.
Ok, so judging by "Discover New Adventures This Fall" and "Downfall", is the possible starter ship have customization that has the nacelles and struts being able to be in either near horizontal and the other diagonal, or does the ship have adjustable nacelles/struts like Intrepid-class starships (yet another anachronistic advancement)?
The first possibility (as it it's a choice in customization) is what I'd prefer. Definitely making this along the lines of the light cruiser.
Did not expect this to be the 2nd mission. Wondering what comes afterwards.
Also: Now that I see them clearly, I'm not liking those nacelles. Would it be possible to have a few TOS options for DSC ships in the Ship tailor? Even if it's just nacelles and the Type 0 material?
The disco staff seems to hate TOS style engine pods, for some reason.
The have a big fetish for rectangular features.
There might have been issues as children dealing with fitting round pegs in round holes and square pegs in square holes....
Did not expect this to be the 2nd mission. Wondering what comes afterwards.
Also: Now that I see them clearly, I'm not liking those nacelles. Would it be possible to have a few TOS options for DSC ships in the Ship tailor? Even if it's just nacelles and the Type 0 material?
The disco staff seems to hate TOS style engine pods, for some reason.
The have a big fetish for rectangular features.
There might have been issues as children dealing with fitting round pegs in round holes and square pegs in square holes....
No child left behind, indeed........ >_>
Anyhow, the starter ship remind me of a Romulan bird of prey.
Did not expect this to be the 2nd mission. Wondering what comes afterwards.
Also: Now that I see them clearly, I'm not liking those nacelles. Would it be possible to have a few TOS options for DSC ships in the Ship tailor? Even if it's just nacelles and the Type 0 material?
The disco staff seems to hate TOS style engine pods, for some reason.
The have a big fetish for rectangular features.
TOS nacelles (or something close to them) would look smashing with that design, though, even with that hull material.
I wonder if the starter ship - Malachowski class - will have parts compatible with the Miranda/Centaur/Reliant-class group.
Also, can anyone recognise the damaged Federation ship in the background, left? Wonder if that's the same class as the USS Shran. It looks flat.
Could be the Shran's class (Magee). Another contender I think (Engle class):
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The disco staff seems to hate TOS style engine pods, for some reason.
The have a big fetish for rectangular features.
We see ships with different warp nacelle designs in various areas of Trek. Excelsior was different from Enterprise, Defiant, Enterprise-D, and Voyager were different from each other...
Hell... the Steamrunner's very different from many that came before her!
Gotta admit though, when we finally DID see round... they looked good.
Did not expect this to be the 2nd mission. Wondering what comes afterwards.
Also: Now that I see them clearly, I'm not liking those nacelles. Would it be possible to have a few TOS options for DSC ships in the Ship tailor? Even if it's just nacelles and the Type 0 material?
The disco staff seems to hate TOS style engine pods, for some reason.
The have a big fetish for rectangular features.
I actually liked the blocky discontinuity, it paints the TOS era as something that was emerging onto the scene rather than being one long gradient from ENT. You can imagine the intervening time as being more eventful for Starfleet with detours and odd design choices a plenty.
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The disco staff seems to hate TOS style engine pods, for some reason.
The have a big fetish for rectangular features.
We see ships with different warp nacelle designs in various areas of Trek. Excelsior was different from Enterprise, Defiant, Enterprise-D, and Voyager were different from each other...
Hell... the Steamrunner's very different from many that came before her!
Gotta admit though, when we finally DID see round... they looked good.
Actually.... There's an obvious evolutionary connect, esp. as you place them side-by-side. From NX-1 to TOS Constitution-class to movie Constitution-refit to Excelsior-class to Ambassador-class to Galaxy Class to Intrepid-class.
Eventual change from the rounded nacelles (which fit in with the original concept that they were 'rockets' as the original pilot, the Cage, called them) to a more squared design.
The Defiant was a total departure of Star Fleet design philosophy, considering that the warp nacelles were integrated in the hull of the ship.
Actually.... There's an obvious evolutionary connect, esp. as you place them side-by-side. From NX-1 to TOS Constitution-class to movie Constitution-refit to Excelsior-class to Ambassador-class to Galaxy Class to Intrepid-class.
Eventual change from the rounded nacelles (which fit in with the original concept that they were 'rockets' as the original pilot, the Cage, called them) to a more squared design.
Well except for the refit Constituion, that jumped to square in one go to then double back to more rounding with the Excelsior.
Plus the Sovereign featured more angular nacelles than the Galaxy. That then evolved into the fluidity of the Odyssey. Evolution typically doesn't follow long, straight lines except if an examiner narrows their focus to a very short time scale and clade or generalizes out the various detours, shifts, and other deviations from explanatory narrative. More so, it involves stepwise progression according to immediate circumstance (ie. making ships look cool and rational to the setting, in the moment) without anticipation (which makes the Ambassador stand out as rather artificial, as it intentionally blends past and future elements [already established] to fit between them. )
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One thing I dislike about the prequels (before TOS stuff) is that they seemingly place Earth in wars where it's besieged and humanity faces destruction or enslavement.
If that had actually happened, the Starfleet of TOS time would have been a lot more military focused and less space hippieish.
(And on a different tangent, if you read the old, very old original Star Trek comic book, in some issues the nacelles were actually rockets, shooting out flame.)
[quote="discojer;c-13425542"]One thing I dislike about the prequels (before TOS stuff) is that they seemingly place Earth in wars where it's besieged and humanity faces destruction or enslavement.
If that had actually happened, the Starfleet of TOS time would have been a lot more military focused and less space hippieish.
(And on a different tangent, if you read the old, very old original Star Trek comic book, in some issues the nacelles were actually rockets, shooting out flame.)[/quote]
what TOS have you been watching? because the one i've seen, starfleet was VERY military-minded - up to and including giving individual captains the power to base-delta-zero any planet THEY decide is a threat to the federation...not starfleet command, that individual captain
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I'll just bring a Dominion War era Sovereign class to the historical simulations
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One thing I dislike about the prequels (before TOS stuff) is that they seemingly place Earth in wars where it's besieged and humanity faces destruction or enslavement.
If that had actually happened, the Starfleet of TOS time would have been a lot more military focused and less space hippieish.
(And on a different tangent, if you read the old, very old original Star Trek comic book, in some issues the nacelles were actually rockets, shooting out flame.)
You're confusing TOS with TNG, I'm afraid: the TOS Starfleet very much was a military organization (with the caveat that it drew its more of its literary lineage from the age of sail, rather than the modern world). It was Jim Kirk in "Errand of Mercy" who dropped the line, "I'm not a diplomat, I'm a soldier," and he comported himself accordingly as a military officer. It's only in TNG, and then mostly only from Picard's personal opinion, that we get the nonsense about Starfleet not being the Federation's military.
You can blame a lot of the confusion on Roddenberry both getting old and losing the moderating effect of having people around him who had the guts and clout to tell him when he was being an idiot.
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I'll just bring a Dominion War era Sovereign class to the historical simulations
No Flambard warbird?
I don't own one
Or should I be evil and bring my canon DS9 Defiant (complete with battle cloak)?
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-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
*sigh* I think people will be disapointed when they realize that "historical simulation" means "take a place of 23c ships" and not "bring 25c ship into a battle with early to mid 23c ships" as in the ships won't be anymore weaker relative to end game ships then the 2410 ships we encounter are.
great...just what i don't want to have to deal with - MORE missions that put me in cryptic's TRIBBLE prefab ships that will end up unslotting all my traits on my REAL ships when i go back to them
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
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"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
*sigh* I think people will be disapointed when they realize that "historical simulation" means "take a place of 23c ships" and not "bring 25c ship into a battle with early to mid 23c ships" as in the ships won't be anymore weaker relative to end game ships then the 2410 ships we encounter are.
well at best we'll get a holographic disguise to make our ship look like something old. : Either way I'd rather use my ship fighting simulated 23c ships than a prefab.
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A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
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Also: Now that I see them clearly, I'm not liking those nacelles. Would it be possible to have a few TOS options for DSC ships in the Ship tailor? Even if it's just nacelles and the Type 0 material?
The disco staff seems to hate TOS style engine pods, for some reason.
The have a big fetish for rectangular features.
The first possibility (as it it's a choice in customization) is what I'd prefer. Definitely making this along the lines of the light cruiser.
There might have been issues as children dealing with fitting round pegs in round holes and square pegs in square holes....
That fits with the theme of the show.
Just saying
I wonder if they managed to hire Bruno Ganz for this one, too. [/differentAssociationsWithDownfall]
No child left behind, indeed........ >_>
Anyhow, the starter ship remind me of a Romulan bird of prey.
TOS nacelles (or something close to them) would look smashing with that design, though, even with that hull material.
Also, can anyone recognise the damaged Federation ship in the background, left? Wonder if that's the same class as the USS Shran. It looks flat.
Could be the Shran's class (Magee). Another contender I think (Engle class):
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We see ships with different warp nacelle designs in various areas of Trek. Excelsior was different from Enterprise, Defiant, Enterprise-D, and Voyager were different from each other...
Hell... the Steamrunner's very different from many that came before her!
Gotta admit though, when we finally DID see round... they looked good.
I actually liked the blocky discontinuity, it paints the TOS era as something that was emerging onto the scene rather than being one long gradient from ENT. You can imagine the intervening time as being more eventful for Starfleet with detours and odd design choices a plenty.
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Actually.... There's an obvious evolutionary connect, esp. as you place them side-by-side. From NX-1 to TOS Constitution-class to movie Constitution-refit to Excelsior-class to Ambassador-class to Galaxy Class to Intrepid-class.
Eventual change from the rounded nacelles (which fit in with the original concept that they were 'rockets' as the original pilot, the Cage, called them) to a more squared design.
The Defiant was a total departure of Star Fleet design philosophy, considering that the warp nacelles were integrated in the hull of the ship.
Well except for the refit Constituion, that jumped to square in one go to then double back to more rounding with the Excelsior.
Plus the Sovereign featured more angular nacelles than the Galaxy. That then evolved into the fluidity of the Odyssey. Evolution typically doesn't follow long, straight lines except if an examiner narrows their focus to a very short time scale and clade or generalizes out the various detours, shifts, and other deviations from explanatory narrative. More so, it involves stepwise progression according to immediate circumstance (ie. making ships look cool and rational to the setting, in the moment) without anticipation (which makes the Ambassador stand out as rather artificial, as it intentionally blends past and future elements [already established] to fit between them. )
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If that had actually happened, the Starfleet of TOS time would have been a lot more military focused and less space hippieish.
(And on a different tangent, if you read the old, very old original Star Trek comic book, in some issues the nacelles were actually rockets, shooting out flame.)
If that had actually happened, the Starfleet of TOS time would have been a lot more military focused and less space hippieish.
(And on a different tangent, if you read the old, very old original Star Trek comic book, in some issues the nacelles were actually rockets, shooting out flame.)[/quote]
what TOS have you been watching? because the one i've seen, starfleet was VERY military-minded - up to and including giving individual captains the power to base-delta-zero any planet THEY decide is a threat to the federation...not starfleet command, that individual captain
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"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
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You're confusing TOS with TNG, I'm afraid: the TOS Starfleet very much was a military organization (with the caveat that it drew its more of its literary lineage from the age of sail, rather than the modern world). It was Jim Kirk in "Errand of Mercy" who dropped the line, "I'm not a diplomat, I'm a soldier," and he comported himself accordingly as a military officer. It's only in TNG, and then mostly only from Picard's personal opinion, that we get the nonsense about Starfleet not being the Federation's military.
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A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
My character Tsin'xing
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"