test content
What is the Arc Client?
Install Arc

The sneezing Discovery alien

shadowkoshshadowkosh Member Posts: 1,688 Arc User
So I just really watched the new preview for Disco and I saw the sick sneezing alien can we please get him added to the game. Maybe with a sneeze attack lol but serious I would like to have that alien as a boff
Post edited by baddmoonrizin on

Comments

  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 57,973 Community Moderator
    Yup. We finally get to see a modernized Saurian.
    db80k0m-89201ed8-eadb-45d3-830f-bb2f0d4c0fe7.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7InBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcL2ExOGQ4ZWM2LTUyZjQtNDdiMS05YTI1LTVlYmZkYmJkOGM3N1wvZGI4MGswbS04OTIwMWVkOC1lYWRiLTQ1ZDMtODMwZi1iYjJmMGQ0YzBmZTcucG5nIn1dXSwiYXVkIjpbInVybjpzZXJ2aWNlOmZpbGUuZG93bmxvYWQiXX0.8G-Pg35Qi8qxiKLjAofaKRH6fmNH3qAAEI628gW0eXc
    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
  • smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,659 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    Yup. We finally get to see a modernized Saurian.


    I'm fine with the look, but.....
    Wish the eyes were more.....alive. I'd like some sorta things like the TMP one, but animated, and all that. The eyes can often tell you of someone, even more than their words.
    dvZq2Aj.jpg
  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,354 Arc User
    It's an alien, Smoke. It shouldn't have Human-readable expressions.
    Lorna-Wing-sig.png
  • smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,659 Arc User
    jonsills wrote: »
    It's an alien, Smoke. It shouldn't have Human-readable expressions.

    Who says it's human?
    dvZq2Aj.jpg
  • smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,659 Arc User
    ruinthefun wrote: »
    The eyes can often tell you of someone, even more than their words.
    With an alien, it's probably telling you the WRONG things. This is why you're not supposed to smile at a dog.

    Or, maybe the alien could be more right than a human?
    dvZq2Aj.jpg
  • avoozuulavoozuul Member Posts: 3,196 Arc User
    edited August 2018
    The black eyes make it seem to look more like a typical grey alien minus the grey. They should've given it more dinosaur-like eyes.
  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,354 Arc User
    Smoke, you don't smile at a chimp because in their body language, that's a prelude to an attack. For dogs, you're challenging their pack status, and if that dog's not part of your pack, it might feel that it needs to defend its place. Your "friendly" expression is a threat to them - and they share your evolutionary background. An alien is not, realistically, going to have expressions you can read, and your attempts to read them will be wrong.

    I'm put in mind of a James Blish short, "War Memorial" (set in the same universe as his Sector General tales, but much earlier). The war between Earth and Orligia has been going on for some time, but it wasn't until one surviving human and one surviving Orligian wound up mortally injured and in the wreckage of an Orligian craft that they were able to communicate enough to find out why the war had started (the Orligians had recently developed a sort of mildly-telepathic communication device, which would later be the basis for the Translator). Orligians, you see, tend to ship out in large family units, as their culture requires the children to be cared for on a continuous basis; they're really uncomfortable leaving the kids at home. They also run about four to five feet tall, covered with black and white fur, and with rounded ears atop their heads, much like pandas. And their homeworld also includes a primate-analog predator, similar in appearance to a human, and just intelligent enough to know to lurk at the edge of forests and try to lure young Orligians into the woods to be killed and eaten. So, when they encountered their first Earth starship, they worked to control their fear and disgust at these creatures...

    ...and then the human captain tried to kiss a baby.

    Imagine that you're on a ship with children aboard, and you encounter a ship manned by huge cockroaches, taller than a man and walking on their hindmost pair of legs. And imagine that one of them grabs a child and begins lifting the poor kid to its mandibles. You might be forgiven for reacting with a moment of surprise.

    Overcome with shock and revulsion, the Orligians killed all the "predators" aboard the human ship. Then, realizing what they'd done, they fled in shame. A small scout craft returning to the mothership found records of what had happened, but not the Orligians' reasoning, so to them it appeared that these vicious creatures had come aboard, killed everyone for no apparent reason, then left. So of course the next time a human ship found an Orligian ship, they struck first - and thus a war was born, because one species mistook what another species meant by what the second species thought was a harmless action.
    Lorna-Wing-sig.png
  • theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 5,985 Arc User
    valoreah wrote: »
    jonsills wrote: »
    Smoke, you don't smile at a chimp because in their body language, that's a prelude to an attack. For dogs, you're challenging their pack status, and if that dog's not part of your pack, it might feel that it needs to defend its place. Your "friendly" expression is a threat to them - and they share your evolutionary background. An alien is not, realistically, going to have expressions you can read, and your attempts to read them will be wrong.

    ^ This. Remember how the Earth Force ship reacted when the Minbari approached them with gun ports open during their first contact on B5?

    That captain lost his nerve and presumed hostility from the Minbari and we know where that led. The Earth Alliance were told not to bother the Minbari and they ignored that sound advice.
    NMXb2ph.png
      "The meaning of victory is not to merely defeat your enemy but to destroy him, to completely eradicate him from living memory, to leave no remnant of his endeavours, to crush utterly his achievement and remove from all record his every trace of existence. From that defeat no enemy can ever recover. That is the meaning of victory."
      -Lord Commander Solar Macharius
    • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 57,973 Community Moderator
      That captain lost his nerve and presumed hostility from the Minbari and we know where that led. The Earth Alliance were told not to bother the Minbari and they ignored that sound advice.

      Actually that captain was a bit paranoid. Sheridan, when asked if he would join that expedition, actually objected over the captain of the Prometheus for that reason.

      Also Londo relented a bit and suggested only sending one ship. Obviously Earthforce was a bit cocky after the Dilgar War.
      db80k0m-89201ed8-eadb-45d3-830f-bb2f0d4c0fe7.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7InBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcL2ExOGQ4ZWM2LTUyZjQtNDdiMS05YTI1LTVlYmZkYmJkOGM3N1wvZGI4MGswbS04OTIwMWVkOC1lYWRiLTQ1ZDMtODMwZi1iYjJmMGQ0YzBmZTcucG5nIn1dXSwiYXVkIjpbInVybjpzZXJ2aWNlOmZpbGUuZG93bmxvYWQiXX0.8G-Pg35Qi8qxiKLjAofaKRH6fmNH3qAAEI628gW0eXc
      I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
      The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
    • baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 10,248 Community Moderator
      This seems completely off topic. :confused:
      GrWzQke.png
      Star Trek Online Volunteer Community Moderator and Resident She-Wolf
      Community Moderators are Unpaid Volunteers and NOT Employees of Gearbox/Cryptic
      Views and Opinions May Not Reflect the Views and Opinions of Gearbox/Cryptic
      ----> Contact Customer Support <----
      Moderation Problems/Issues? Please contact the Community Manager
      Terms of Service / Community Rules and Policies / FCT
      Want the latest information on Star Trek Online?
      Facebook / Twitter / Twitch
    • theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 5,985 Arc User
      Looking forward to seeing a modern take on a Saurian, is the make up to the same standard as the Saru make up though?
      NMXb2ph.png
        "The meaning of victory is not to merely defeat your enemy but to destroy him, to completely eradicate him from living memory, to leave no remnant of his endeavours, to crush utterly his achievement and remove from all record his every trace of existence. From that defeat no enemy can ever recover. That is the meaning of victory."
        -Lord Commander Solar Macharius
      • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,587 Arc User
        valoreah wrote: »
        jonsills wrote: »
        Smoke, you don't smile at a chimp because in their body language, that's a prelude to an attack. For dogs, you're challenging their pack status, and if that dog's not part of your pack, it might feel that it needs to defend its place. Your "friendly" expression is a threat to them - and they share your evolutionary background. An alien is not, realistically, going to have expressions you can read, and your attempts to read them will be wrong.

        ^ This. Remember how the Earth Force ship reacted when the Minbari approached them with gun ports open during their first contact on B5?

        That captain lost his nerve and presumed hostility from the Minbari and we know where that led. The Earth Alliance were told not to bother the Minbari and they ignored that sound advice.


        Totally beside the point. Which was that 'open gun ports' to the Minbari were a welcoming gesture, whereas the Earth Force ship saw it as them getting ready to attack.
        3lsZz0w.jpg
      • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 57,973 Community Moderator
        azrael605 wrote: »
        So can we all agree that despite some claims by the underinformed it is not possible to know what alien facial expressions mean?

        9a2bbc2df18997255dcfe93fcefdf2d6.gif
        db80k0m-89201ed8-eadb-45d3-830f-bb2f0d4c0fe7.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7InBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcL2ExOGQ4ZWM2LTUyZjQtNDdiMS05YTI1LTVlYmZkYmJkOGM3N1wvZGI4MGswbS04OTIwMWVkOC1lYWRiLTQ1ZDMtODMwZi1iYjJmMGQ0YzBmZTcucG5nIn1dXSwiYXVkIjpbInVybjpzZXJ2aWNlOmZpbGUuZG93bmxvYWQiXX0.8G-Pg35Qi8qxiKLjAofaKRH6fmNH3qAAEI628gW0eXc
        I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
        The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
      • hawku001xhawku001x Member Posts: 10,758 Arc User
      • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 57,973 Community Moderator
        azrael605 wrote: »
        As if Toothless wasn't designed to be decipherable, come on man.

        Also a non-verbal character from a children's movie whose story requires the audience to understand him does not equal an alien.

        Was kinda pointing out how human expressions don't quite translate on a non-human. Toothless struggled to smile. As that was his first attempt... didn't quite go so well.
        db80k0m-89201ed8-eadb-45d3-830f-bb2f0d4c0fe7.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7InBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcL2ExOGQ4ZWM2LTUyZjQtNDdiMS05YTI1LTVlYmZkYmJkOGM3N1wvZGI4MGswbS04OTIwMWVkOC1lYWRiLTQ1ZDMtODMwZi1iYjJmMGQ0YzBmZTcucG5nIn1dXSwiYXVkIjpbInVybjpzZXJ2aWNlOmZpbGUuZG93bmxvYWQiXX0.8G-Pg35Qi8qxiKLjAofaKRH6fmNH3qAAEI628gW0eXc
        I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
        The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
      This discussion has been closed.