Change gender and species with zen

I would like it to be the option to change the genre and species by zen in the game.
Is it possible that this option may be enabled in the future? :blush:
Thanks, and sorry for my bad english :cold_sweat:

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  • nightken
    nightken Member Posts: 2,808 Arc User
    possible? with enough time and money just about anything is possible. likely not at all. they have basically said the way characters are set up it take too much work and not really get them anything back for that work.

    best to make a new character of whatever you want.

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  • bernatk
    bernatk Member Posts: 1,089 Bug Hunter
    Taco said ultimately they want to put gender and race change on the tailor. This would be very cool. Problem is it's probably very low on priority.

    If you check out the clothing you can see there are gender, race and faction locked parts that needs attention individually. That's a huge work.

    For example I can't put the knitted hat on orion males but on females I can. WTF, hello Taco?
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  • tyler002
    tyler002 Member Posts: 1,586 Arc User
    May a dev will get bored and make this change sometime on their spare time? That seems to be when they do their best work...
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  • leemwatson
    leemwatson Member Posts: 4,620 Arc User
    It's much easier to just create a new character.
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  • warpangel
    warpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    bernatk wrote: »
    Taco said ultimately they want to put gender and race change on the tailor. This would be very cool. Problem is it's probably very low on priority.
    Yes. In the end few people would use it and it would have low if any profit expectation.

    This is really something they should've though of when they first made the system.
    If you check out the clothing you can see there are gender, race and faction locked parts that needs attention individually. That's a huge work.

    For example I can't put the knitted hat on orion males but on females I can. WTF, hello Taco?
    One might say Cryptic has been continually shooting themselves in the foot with the random restrictions on clothes. There is no realistic reason why any character wouldn't be able to wear any clothes, none of the races is that much anatomically different. Same for hairstyles. Makes no sense if a character (of a race that has hair) space-magically can't have it cut in a specific style just because.

    Not to even get into the exponentially growing mess of individual "this item can't be worn with that item" -restrictions that are the real huge work that needs attention individually...and for entirely negative effect of limiting players' creativity.
  • peterconnorfirst
    peterconnorfirst Member Posts: 6,223 Arc User
    edited December 2017
    bernatk wrote: »
    Taco said ultimately they want to put gender and race change on the tailor. This would be very cool. Problem is it's probably very low on priority.

    If you check out the clothing you can see there are gender, race and faction locked parts that needs attention individually. That's a huge work.

    For example I can't put the knitted hat on orion males but on females I can. WTF, hello Taco?

    On more than one occasions in the past player had the opportunity to access the unrestricted tailor meaning you can get all clothing and even all clothing combinations that are unlocked on your account. Of course clipping issues turn up much more often and some racial features (like the back of a Klingon) are simply not available for all specie’s attire (like Orion uppers).

    I really think if cryptic wanted to make money out of it tho they could easily unlock the unrestricted tailor only for let’s say lifetime accounts in order to boost sales of subscriptions.

    Keeping some racial features (with clothing being one of the main) intact simply seems to feel more important to them however.
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  • lordsteve1
    lordsteve1 Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    If there’s a chance to make money off it then it should be considered by them tbh. I mean even for say 500-1000 zen a lot of people would happily pay for fully open tailor options.
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  • drakethewhite
    drakethewhite Member Posts: 1,240 Arc User
    leemwatson wrote: »
    It's much easier to just create a new character.

    Not really. It takes a long time to max a character and get many of the achievements. I won't take that much time to do it.

    My desire on this point isn't species or gender however. I'd like to switch my main from Federation to TOS. So yeah, that will never happen.
  • drakethewhite
    drakethewhite Member Posts: 1,240 Arc User
    azrael605 wrote: »
    > @drakethewhite said:
    > leemwatson wrote: »
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    > It's much easier to just create a new character.
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    > Not really. It takes a long time to max a character and get many of the achievements. I won't take that much time to do it.
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    > My desire on this point isn't species or gender however. I'd like to switch my main from Federation to TOS. So yeah, that will never happen.

    It takes a whole 6 hours of total playtime to go from level 0 to level 50, using nothing but story missions. That is not a long time.

    That's not maxing a character. That's just the start of maxing a character, especially for a player who likes his achievements.

  • smooshy#7462
    smooshy#7462 Member Posts: 233 Arc User
    Making a new character is free (unless all your slots are filled, then Zen can still come to the rescue). What I'd like is to put on my character whatever I want, regardless of junk or knobby forehead prosthetics.
  • duncanidaho11
    duncanidaho11 Member Posts: 7,618 Arc User
    edited December 2017
    azrael605 wrote: »
    No such thing as maxing a character, not anymore. Every new spec tree adds 30 "levels". But like I said 6 hours to 50, maybe another 10 to 12 total hours of playtime (spread over a week) augmented with Doffing and Admiralty to get to 60. Its not a long process.

    Still, you can create a new character but there's going to be a few points of investment that it won't be able to easily match. Ex. having the Kobali uniform, the shard of possibilities, or recruitment event dialogs.

    And (to make a general point about the topic) for a player like myself that can be a problem. I have six characters that I continuously develop. I've tried to make a seventh but it's a step beyond what I'm able to keep up with (I've tried to simply ignore one and keep to the pattern but that doesn't work for me.) I could delete characters and start over with the ideal mix, but...timed exclusives.

    So that's six crews to try to build a set of stories with but through the circumstances of how those characters were made there is some overlap and mis-matched combos. I'd like to have a more versatile group of six but this is what I've got. It does limit how I can approach STO and a system that would allow more species/gender flexibility would help a lot with that.
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  • shh#4743
    shh#4743 Member Posts: 36 Arc User
    > @somtaawkhar said:
    > From what I understand, things like species are part of the game code used to keep track of your character and all their stuff, so it can't really be allowed to be changed for much in the same reason you can't just change your species in Guild Wars 2.

    sucks
  • drakethewhite
    drakethewhite Member Posts: 1,240 Arc User
    azrael605 wrote: »
    > @drakethewhite said:
    > azrael605 wrote: »
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    > > @drakethewhite said:
    > > leemwatson wrote: »
    > >
    > > It's much easier to just create a new character.
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    > > Not really. It takes a long time to max a character and get many of the achievements. I won't take that much time to do it.
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    > > My desire on this point isn't species or gender however. I'd like to switch my main from Federation to TOS. So yeah, that will never happen.
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    > It takes a whole 6 hours of total playtime to go from level 0 to level 50, using nothing but story missions. That is not a long time.
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    > That's not maxing a character. That's just the start of maxing a character, especially for a player who likes his achievements.

    No such thing as maxing a character, not anymore. Every new spec tree adds 30 "levels". But like I said 6 hours to 50, maybe another 10 to 12 total hours of playtime (spread over a week) augmented with Doffing and Admiralty to get to 60. Its not a long process.

    Do you even play this game? There are many things to max.

    Just off the top of my head- bonuses from achievement as well as just getting the achievements themselves, epic gear (space and ground with the right RNG rolls required as so much is bound to the existing main), getting lock box ships (also bound to the main) and traits, maxing all Reps, maxing all R&D (months of effort there alone), getting Doff ranking maxed, collecting special bound DOFFs, completing all the Admiralty ranking.

    I've been at this with an TOS alt starting when Agents of Yesterday hit. He's still a noob compared to my main who has had five years of effort put into him. You can't duplicate that in 50 hours. And even when I'm close, there are things my main has that are no impossible for my TOS alt to ever get as they've been removed from the game.
  • drakethewhite
    drakethewhite Member Posts: 1,240 Arc User
    shh#4743 wrote: »
    > @somtaawkhar said:
    > From what I understand, things like species are part of the game code used to keep track of your character and all their stuff, so it can't really be allowed to be changed for much in the same reason you can't just change your species in Guild Wars 2.

    sucks

    It's all just data, it can be changed. But allowing the change produces far less income for Cryptic than making you create a new alt. To say nothing of the time investment needed by the player. No game company will give that up.
  • ichaerus1
    ichaerus1 Member Posts: 986 Arc User
    You already can change species and gender with zen. It's called buy a rename, then "construct additional pylons," aka get more character slots. It's really that simple.
  • tacticoolfugga#9235
    tacticoolfugga#9235 Member Posts: 377 Arc User
    I used to want the transgender character, but thanks to skant, my dude can wear a skirt! But seriously, I still want the random transporter accident that reassigns gender of you decline a queue thing. Totally need it.
  • salazarraze
    salazarraze Member Posts: 3,789 Arc User
    leemwatson wrote: »
    It's much easier to just create a new character.

    Not really. It takes a long time to max a character and get many of the achievements. I won't take that much time to do it.

    My desire on this point isn't species or gender however. I'd like to switch my main from Federation to TOS. So yeah, that will never happen.
    I think what the previous poster meant to say was "it's much easier for cryptic if you create a new character."

    Also, cryptic makes more money when you create a new character. That's why they don't want to add a race and gender changing options. If you put a bunch of time and zen into a character only to decide now that you want a different gender, you'll have to reroll a new one. Doing so ensures that you spend even more time playing. And we all know that the longer you play, the more likely you are to buy zen.

    Creating characters adds variables that leads to additional revenue for cyptic. Much more than a pitiful (presumably) 500 zen race or gender change option.
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  • salazarraze
    salazarraze Member Posts: 3,789 Arc User
    azrael605 wrote: »
    > @salazarraze said:
    > drakethewhite wrote: »
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    > leemwatson wrote: »
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    > It's much easier to just create a new character.
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    >
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    > Not really. It takes a long time to max a character and get many of the achievements. I won't take that much time to do it.
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    > My desire on this point isn't species or gender however. I'd like to switch my main from Federation to TOS. So yeah, that will never happen.
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    >
    > I think what the previous poster meant to say was "it's much easier for cryptic if you create a new character."
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    > Also, cryptic makes more money when you create a new character. That's why they don't want to add a race and gender changing options. If you put a bunch of time and zen into a character only to decide now that you want a different gender, you'll have to reroll a new one. Doing so ensures that you spend even more time playing. And we all know that the longer you play, the more likely you are to buy zen.
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    > Creating characters adds variables that leads to additional revenue for cyptic. Much more than a pitiful (presumably) 500 zen race or gender change option.

    Thats not what I meant in the slightest.
    I didn't quote you.
    When you see "TRIBBLE" in my posts, it's because I manually typed "TRIBBLE" and censored myself.
  • drakethewhite
    drakethewhite Member Posts: 1,240 Arc User
    azrael605 wrote: »
    > @salazarraze said:
    > drakethewhite wrote: »
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    > leemwatson wrote: »
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    > It's much easier to just create a new character.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Not really. It takes a long time to max a character and get many of the achievements. I won't take that much time to do it.
    >
    > My desire on this point isn't species or gender however. I'd like to switch my main from Federation to TOS. So yeah, that will never happen.
    >
    >
    >
    > I think what the previous poster meant to say was "it's much easier for cryptic if you create a new character."
    >
    > Also, cryptic makes more money when you create a new character. That's why they don't want to add a race and gender changing options. If you put a bunch of time and zen into a character only to decide now that you want a different gender, you'll have to reroll a new one. Doing so ensures that you spend even more time playing. And we all know that the longer you play, the more likely you are to buy zen.
    >
    > Creating characters adds variables that leads to additional revenue for cyptic. Much more than a pitiful (presumably) 500 zen race or gender change option.

    Thats not what I meant in the slightest.

    You stated that it was so easy to make a new main that there is no need for a paid method to switch race, gender or faction.

    And now you won't admit that you were just doing a knee jerk response to a desire that you hadn't even considered. Fine, I've wasted enough time on you.

  • drakethewhite
    drakethewhite Member Posts: 1,240 Arc User
    leemwatson wrote: »
    It's much easier to just create a new character.

    Not really. It takes a long time to max a character and get many of the achievements. I won't take that much time to do it.

    My desire on this point isn't species or gender however. I'd like to switch my main from Federation to TOS. So yeah, that will never happen.
    I think what the previous poster meant to say was "it's much easier for cryptic if you create a new character."

    Then that's what he should have said.
    Also, cryptic makes more money when you create a new character.

    I already said that, and stated that's what the option will never exist.


  • salazarraze
    salazarraze Member Posts: 3,789 Arc User
    edited December 2017
    leemwatson wrote: »
    It's much easier to just create a new character.

    Not really. It takes a long time to max a character and get many of the achievements. I won't take that much time to do it.

    My desire on this point isn't species or gender however. I'd like to switch my main from Federation to TOS. So yeah, that will never happen.
    I think what the previous poster meant to say was "it's much easier for cryptic if you create a new character."

    Then that's what he should have said.
    Sadly, jokes can be lost in text when smiley faces aren't used. Perhaps, someday, I'll lower myself to using them so that jokes are not lost so easily.

    Also, cryptic makes more money when you create a new character.

    I already said that, and stated that's what the option will never exist.
    Because of the nature of quoting, I can see why you think that portion of my post was directed at you. I broke it off as a separate paragraph from my response to you to let it stand on it's own as "general information" for the forum at large.
    When you see "TRIBBLE" in my posts, it's because I manually typed "TRIBBLE" and censored myself.
  • nikephorus
    nikephorus Member Posts: 2,737 Arc User
    I'd personally like to be able to change professions, but I understand the underlying difficulty to implement such a system and why it probably won't happen.
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