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[PC] The issue with today's Endeavor
ambassadorkael
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Endeavor update, everyone!
We know the current endeavor cannot be completed. We're turning Foundry play on in our test server, Tribble, to see if it's functioning ok. If it is, we'll turn it on on live.
If not, we'll change the Endeavor.
We know the current endeavor cannot be completed. We're turning Foundry play on in our test server, Tribble, to see if it's functioning ok. If it is, we'll turn it on on live.
If not, we'll change the Endeavor.
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While we're at it, may we know what exactly is the problem with the Foundry as of late? I didn't really follow every reddit posts about the downtime, so i actually don't know for sure what caused it to be taken down for so long?
Good question
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
heh... We may never know if we don't try and ask <.<
And we will never get an answer - bran flakes is gone and everone after him is just a ...
PSY
The Foundry is currently broken. Has been down for weeks.
Suddenly it gets looked at on the Test Server and most likely will be turned back on temporarily - I assume in a broken state.
Has the Foundry not been being looked at for a fix until now? Or even looked at at all for the last few months?
UGH. I consider myself to be a patient customer, but this is starting to TRIBBLE me off.
arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline/#/discussion/1203368/pve-content-a-list-of-gamewide-polishing-pass-suggestions
there was a issue that got fixed and then when they turned it back on they found another new problem.
The Foundry is experiencing issues. The team has been working very hard to fix them. They think they might have fixed play, and wanted to run some tests before just throwing it online.
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
Is there anything the community can be on the watch for (relevant to this issue) if the Foundry comes back online (and there's still some lingering uncertainty whether the issue was fixed)? Foundry peoples (particularly the Roundtable crew) can certainly throw our guinea pig like bodies at the problem if ever that would help you guys out. We greatly appreciate what you've been doing (and understand that TRIBBLE happens.)
Notable missions: Apex [AEI], Gemini [SSF], Trident [AEI], Evolution's Smile [SSF], Transcendence
Looking for something new to play? I've started building Foundry missions again in visual novel form!
What he said. I'm no super-expert myself on the matter, although i did publish a few Foundry episodes that received pretty decent feedback, so mayhaps i could give a hand as well.
I actually inquired about this earlier; although have since completed the termination of 20 Terran Ships (thank you to the Dev Team for the quick change BTW
I think duncanidaho11's question is the most important thing mentioned in the thread at this point... Is there anything we can all do within the STO community to spot whatever issues are happening and keep the dev team updated? (Yes, I'm asking the same question duncanidaho11 did)
Also, while I'm not a huge participant in Foundry at this time, I do love a good story, and frankly there are some very talented people writing Foundry Missions. The last one I did was very impressive to me, so much so I tipped!
The above being said; What specifically are the issues with Foundry? ...are the issues...
A. Related to Foundry Mission creation?
B. Related to running/playing Foundry Missions?
C. Any issues that can be brought to the community's attention with some detail that don't match the classifications asked about in "A." & "B." ?
D. Some combination of issues including or exlcuding those asked about above?
I think all anyone knows within the STO Community itself is Foundry's a lot like an Almond Joy.... "Sometimes it feels like a nut, and sometimes it doesn't." BTW... if age is a factor here and you don't get the reference to the Candy Ad in the '80's and '90's don't worry about it, but more seriously;
What's going on? How can we help?
- Lifetime Gamer & Trekker
- Lifetime Gamer
Hey, just to chime in from what we know on the community side: the last we heard is that there's an issue with publishing [the process of sending a mission to live STO] that was severe enough to take the Foundry back down after missions were successfully brought back online (following season 14 downtime, which is normal as big season updates can break things.)
How this manifests itself we don't know. The publishing problem was discovered by the "core" team (which works between Cryptic titles. This apparently affects both Neverwinter and STO) and the community was never able to test manual publishing ourselves. We were only able to play a few missions (successfully) before the Foundry had to go back down. A fix was attempted but it appears to have been unsuccessful (assuming the issue now is the same one as the one previously mentioned. It's possible something new could have come up.)
So basically we're in the dark about this and the reason for that might just be that the Foundry's current issue is a technical one. Servers and the interactions between may be involved (from a reference on twitter at the start of all this.) If Cryptic ever needs more bodies on tribble, then we can certainly put the call out. But, it's worth noting (just so people here don't get the wrong idea and start a sign-up sheet now) that we have no idea whether it'll ever come to that. It's just an offer of help if it happens that might be useful (though more likely, this is just going to take more time.)
Notable missions: Apex [AEI], Gemini [SSF], Trident [AEI], Evolution's Smile [SSF], Transcendence
Looking for something new to play? I've started building Foundry missions again in visual novel form!
That's interesting. I wonder which parts of the game are handled by the STO team and which are handled by this "core" team. Sometimes, I get the feeling that the STO team consists only of artists, designers, QA, and a few managers, and any work that falls outside of the scope of those jobs requires someone from the "core" team to step in. That may explain why some things take so long to fix.
While I do suspect that there's programmers just for STO exclusive issues like for example weapon balance and such, it seems that most if not all issues that effect the game overall or at least a major part of it are handled by the core team. That said I also suspect that a lot of people under estimate just how complex STO is (and thus under estimate how hard things are to fix).
Since the issue affects both the Neverwinter and STO foundry, and it might be attributable to the servers, it does sound reasonable that the core team discovered it. For the studio makeup: one thing to point out is that we hear a lot from designers, artists, QA, writers, and managers but this isn't necessarily reflective of the full staff. It's just reflective of who's been hopping onto public outreach (ex. Ten Forward weekly, community podcasts.) It's a skill and it comes up for some jobs more than others (ex. ship artists and mission designers. Their content is marketed and they help promote it.)
PS. for those aching for the Foundry to return I do have a few community channels that can help occupy downtime.
Legion of Myth's Foundry team ups (these guys are fun, very reminiscent of MST3k.)
Youtube Link
DougGlendower's Far Beyond the Foundry reviews (giving an author's perspective on missions)
Youtube Link
ZEF's playthrough of AmbassadorKael's first mission.
Youtube Link
And the Foundry Roundtable (dedicated Foundry podcast)
Youtube Link
Notable missions: Apex [AEI], Gemini [SSF], Trident [AEI], Evolution's Smile [SSF], Transcendence
Looking for something new to play? I've started building Foundry missions again in visual novel form!
“Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn.” -- Benjamin Franklin
https://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline/#/discussion/1235715/current-foundry-status-down-missions-and-editor
Notable missions: Apex [AEI], Gemini [SSF], Trident [AEI], Evolution's Smile [SSF], Transcendence
Looking for something new to play? I've started building Foundry missions again in visual novel form!
Thanks, I bookmarked it. I will check over there for updates.
“Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn.” -- Benjamin Franklin
It may be in the "non-'Core'" STO Crytpic team's interest to see about having improved liaising between themselves and the "Core Team" because clearly there are some easily observable communication issues that likely involve the STO Team having to engage in a lot of repetition themselves with the Core Team. I can only imagine the insanity they must go through to make sure things get done though. Either way, communication between the departments needs to be looked at more concretely and concertedly to everyone's mutual benefit; including the STO community.
At some point, it would be nice to hear about the specifics, but with communication problems of some sorts being apparent between the departments, I'm certainly reasonable enough to understand why we've not gotten and/or will be unlikely to get a detailed response with the specifics.
That being said, people in the STO Foundry Community, are clearly willing to help. I'll gladly sign up for such a list to test Foundry too, and transfer a few characters, even to Redshirt if necessary. Whatever it takes, and I'm glad to see so many in the STO Community wanting to help.
Happy Holidays everyone.
- Lifetime Gamer
- Lifetime Gamer
That is clearly a good one.