For people who spend so much time trying to analyze things, they aren't very good at it
>Why where all those dead bodies in the sarcophagus room!?
They were members of the original crew of the ship, under T'Kuvma and Voq, that Kol had bribed with food in order to gain control of the ship, and after his men had secured it, he killed them to ensure only people who were totally loyal to him were around.
>Why did Kol paint her face only to haul her off since he knew she was a traitor!?
Because Kol is an ****, who knew he had won before she even entered the room. He was playing her because it was funny, and it amused him.
point 1 is okay.
point 2, i'm not so sure on. it's more likely that Kol gave L'Rell enough rope to hang herself from, it's not out of amusement but to find out what honor she had left after knowing about her leaving him behind for Voq and again when Lorca escaped, basically he needed proof of her misdeeds and he got it when L'Rell was walking with the Cornwall and again by having L'Rell join the House of Kor which he allowed, that gave him the means to deal with her without house politics and because she accepted so publicly to the joining, no one can challenge Kol to the claim that she was duped into it.
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Artan, it's not even "unequivocal" that S31 exists - the only canon information we have about it is from a classic Unreliable Narrator. If S31 were that big a deal, they'd have been all over the Dominion War, not have sent one guy to DS9.
As for their being "part of Starfleet" - according to the aforementioned unreliable narrator, it derives its authority from Article XIV, Section 31 of the Federation Charter, not from anything to do with Starfleet at all. That would be akin to claiming that the CIA is part of US Army Intelligence, simply because both of them are supposed to be limited to operating outside the United States.
Artan, it's not even "unequivocal" that S31 exists - the only canon information we have about it is from a classic Unreliable Narrator. If S31 were that big a deal, they'd have been all over the Dominion War, not have sent one guy to DS9.
As for their being "part of Starfleet" - according to the aforementioned unreliable narrator, it derives its authority from Article XIV, Section 31 of the Federation Charter, not from anything to do with Starfleet at all. That would be akin to claiming that the CIA is part of US Army Intelligence, simply because both of them are supposed to be limited to operating outside the United States.
At no point does Marcus bother lying to Kirk as Slone did with Bashir. He just straight up tells him everything. So that's them being part of SI (incidentally also confirmed by Slone) and Article 14, Section 31 is in the Starfleet Charter not the Federation Charter, this makes it part of Starfleet.
ARCHER: Where's my doctor?
HARRIS [on monitor]: He's safe, on a mission of great importance to Starfleet.
ARCHER: Phlox was kidnapped. Starfleet would never authorise that.
HARRIS [on monitor]: Reread the Charter, Article 14, Section 31. There are a few lines that make allowances for bending the rules during times of extraordinary threat.
ARCHER: What threat?
That can only be Starfleet's charter as the Federation didn't exist yet.
As for the obvious reply to that, the Earth Starfleet becomes the Federation one. There's no differences between them and no Andorian or Vulcan influence ever permeates into TOS and any and all driving force in the Federation is human. They don't even change the Delta symbol from the Earth Starfleet to the Federation one.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
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'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
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One thing that felt odd to me is that the away team all went to sleep without one of them taking watch. It was very unrealistic imo, while the planet seems safe a watch is still necessary, and it would have been easy to work in without changing the story: have Saru volunteer for the first shift cause he's not going to be able to sleep yet, have him fall under the aliens influence during his watch, and subsequently choose not to wake either of the others up.
To be fair, they were outnumbered but if anything good came out of this, it was the discovery of the Klingon's weakness with the cloaking device.
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-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
The crew will live and learn from this and be better the next time
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-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
It was a no win to begin with, if either ship had dropped shields both would have been lost. Bear in mind the Gagarin's escorts had been destroyed before Discovery had arrived, the Gagarin was already doomed.
"The meaning of victory is not to merely defeat your enemy but to destroy him, to completely eradicate him from living memory, to leave no remnant of his endeavours, to crush utterly his achievement and remove from all record his every trace of existence. From that defeat no enemy can ever recover. That is the meaning of victory."
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
I'm reserving judgement until after season one then make my mind up
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-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
I'm not sure there will be a peaceful resolution. It might be that they just meant that the episodes would focus on something else.
That seems likely, as we do know that the boundary between Federation and Empire will be simmering at a level just below total war until the Organians intervene (in TOS: "Errand of Mercy" the Enterprise was dispatched to Organia to secure it as a beachhead, or at least deny it to the Klingons, after another set of peace talks broke down).
I'm not sure there will be a peaceful resolution. It might be that they just meant that the episodes would focus on something else.
That seems likely, as we do know that the boundary between Federation and Empire will be simmering at a level just below total war until the Organians intervene (in TOS: "Errand of Mercy" the Enterprise was dispatched to Organia to secure it as a beachhead, or at least deny it to the Klingons, after another set of peace talks broke down).
Yeah. I gotta say, I prefer the outcome of the war ending because the actual characters of the story decided to end it, rather than some godlike alien deciding it should end because it ended up on their doorstep. And anyway where the hell were the Organians when the Feds and Klinks started shooting at each other in the 2280s, in the 2340s, in the 2370s?
Deus ex machina is bad writing, period.
"Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
— Sabaton, "Great War"
I'm not sure there will be a peaceful resolution. It might be that they just meant that the episodes would focus on something else.
That seems likely, as we do know that the boundary between Federation and Empire will be simmering at a level just below total war until the Organians intervene (in TOS: "Errand of Mercy" the Enterprise was dispatched to Organia to secure it as a beachhead, or at least deny it to the Klingons, after another set of peace talks broke down).
Yeah. I gotta say, I prefer the outcome of the war ending because the actual characters of the story decided to end it, rather than some godlike alien deciding it should end because it ended up on their doorstep. And anyway where the hell were the Organians when the Feds and Klinks started shooting at each other in the 2280s, in the 2340s, in the 2370s?
Deus ex machina is bad writing, period.
The Organians are arrogant jackasses who were content to let the new kids on the block kill each other to their hearts' content, until it threatened to disturb their quiet evening, at which point they just put a halt to the whole thing and pretended it was for some high-minded reasons about the future, rather than because it was about to inconvenience them.
(I think I had Grunt call them out on this once...)
I'm not sure there will be a peaceful resolution. It might be that they just meant that the episodes would focus on something else.
That seems likely, as we do know that the boundary between Federation and Empire will be simmering at a level just below total war until the Organians intervene (in TOS: "Errand of Mercy" the Enterprise was dispatched to Organia to secure it as a beachhead, or at least deny it to the Klingons, after another set of peace talks broke down).
Yeah. I gotta say, I prefer the outcome of the war ending because the actual characters of the story decided to end it, rather than some godlike alien deciding it should end because it ended up on their doorstep. And anyway where the hell were the Organians when the Feds and Klinks started shooting at each other in the 2280s, in the 2340s, in the 2370s?
Deus ex machina is bad writing, period.
Exactly. Deus Ex Machina is essentially writing into a corner without any reasonable way of escaping.
Although, it is possible that beings like the Organians have a Prime Directive towards lesser beings. I wonder if they would show up if everything is FUBAR'd. Although the most likely reason for their actions is "Dang kids! Get off my lawn!"
I'm not sure there will be a peaceful resolution. It might be that they just meant that the episodes would focus on something else.
That seems likely, as we do know that the boundary between Federation and Empire will be simmering at a level just below total war until the Organians intervene (in TOS: "Errand of Mercy" the Enterprise was dispatched to Organia to secure it as a beachhead, or at least deny it to the Klingons, after another set of peace talks broke down).
Yeah. I gotta say, I prefer the outcome of the war ending because the actual characters of the story decided to end it, rather than some godlike alien deciding it should end because it ended up on their doorstep. And anyway where the hell were the Organians when the Feds and Klinks started shooting at each other in the 2280s, in the 2340s, in the 2370s?
Deus ex machina is bad writing, period.
Exactly. Deus Ex Machina is essentially writing into a corner without any reasonable way of escaping.
Although, it is possible that beings like the Organians have a Prime Directive towards lesser beings. I wonder if they would show up if everything is FUBAR'd. Although the most likely reason for their actions is "Dang kids! Get off my lawn!"
Yeah, if the PD idea were the case you'd have expected some sign of them in the "Yesterday's Enterprise" timeline where the Klingons were actually decisively winning.
"Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
— Sabaton, "Great War"
I recall my/Ronnie Grau's take on the Organians....
The Organians.... Another one of Jim Kirk's happy discoveries. He picked this glum little mediaeval-period planet to confront the Klingons on, only it turned out to be not quite so mediaeval after all; the inhabitants were actually disembodied super-intelligences who kept the whole simple-life thing going as a front. They're no longer organic life forms, they don't feel particularly fond of organic life forms, and when they found that two groups of organic life forms were planning on having a barney in their back yard, their attitude could be summed up as "Bad puppies! No biscuit! We're taking away your chew toys!" After which they more or less disappeared, leaving us and the Klingons to thresh out a peace treaty which respects both cultures and paves the way forward for peaceful galactic development and, most importantly of all, does not make the Organians any more mad than they were already.
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I was just making a joke. Chill alright?
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For a war, having some superpowerful entity like th Organians end it instead of a real peace treaty might seem lame, but there was actually an interesting story point raised there:
Should a 3rd party be allowed to break up a fight, if the two combatants insist on a fight?
It was interesting to have the "good guy" argue for a continuation of hostilities. I think that, overall, doesn't make it that lame. Of course, I think a genuine understanding between Klingons and Federation would also be a good story.
We had to wait for Undiscovered Country to bring us that story.
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For a war, having some superpowerful entity like th Organians end it instead of a real peace treaty might seem lame, but there was actually an interesting story point raised there:
Should a 3rd party be allowed to break up a fight, if the two combatants insist on a fight?
It was interesting to have the "good guy" argue for a continuation of hostilities. I think that, overall, doesn't make it that lame. Of course, I think a genuine understanding between Klingons and Federation would also be a good story.
We had to wait for Undiscovered Country to bring us that story.
I'm not saying peacemaking and peacekeeping isn't a laudable objective, I'm saying that the Organians' intention was more or less exclusively self-interested and their execution extremely poor. And even in TUC, the Klingons sought a peace treaty not out of any real desire for peace, but because Praxis meant they couldn't afford to continue the war.
See, a third party can enforce peace through superior firepower, but unless the underlying issues that actually led to the conflict are addressed, it's probably going to start right back up again when the third party's attention is elsewhere. We see it all over the world in various insurgencies and frozen wars. Comparably, the Organians' interest in the peace process pretty much ended at their doorstep. And the result was a canon century/STO-canon century-and-a-half of what boiled down to a cold war, even after the Federation and Klingon Empire became officially allies.
Kanril Eleya and Peri Wahlberger do use military force to stop the ethnic cleansing, but they also seek out major factional leaders who can be reasonable and bring them to the negotiating table, then mediate the negotiations and provide assistance where asked. The essential goal is to get the two main sides to the table and then provide them the tools to sort out the path forward themselves.
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"Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
— Sabaton, "Great War"
I'm not sure there will be a peaceful resolution. It might be that they just meant that the episodes would focus on something else.
That seems likely, as we do know that the boundary between Federation and Empire will be simmering at a level just below total war until the Organians intervene (in TOS: "Errand of Mercy" the Enterprise was dispatched to Organia to secure it as a beachhead, or at least deny it to the Klingons, after another set of peace talks broke down).
Yeah. I gotta say, I prefer the outcome of the war ending because the actual characters of the story decided to end it, rather than some godlike alien deciding it should end because it ended up on their doorstep. And anyway where the hell were the Organians when the Feds and Klinks started shooting at each other in the 2280s, in the 2340s, in the 2370s?
Deus ex machina is bad writing, period.
The Organians are arrogant jackasses who were content to let the new kids on the block kill each other to their hearts' content, until it threatened to disturb their quiet evening, at which point they just put a halt to the whole thing and pretended it was for some high-minded reasons about the future, rather than because it was about to inconvenience them.
(I think I had Grunt call them out on this once...)
I would not want arrogant jackass war mongers bringing in infantile rivalry about the place either, especially if other worlds would unwillingly get pulled into it as well. I'd have done the same as the Organians had I the power to do so.
I'm not sure there will be a peaceful resolution. It might be that they just meant that the episodes would focus on something else.
That seems likely, as we do know that the boundary between Federation and Empire will be simmering at a level just below total war until the Organians intervene (in TOS: "Errand of Mercy" the Enterprise was dispatched to Organia to secure it as a beachhead, or at least deny it to the Klingons, after another set of peace talks broke down).
Yeah. I gotta say, I prefer the outcome of the war ending because the actual characters of the story decided to end it, rather than some godlike alien deciding it should end because it ended up on their doorstep. And anyway where the hell were the Organians when the Feds and Klinks started shooting at each other in the 2280s, in the 2340s, in the 2370s?
Deus ex machina is bad writing, period.
The Organians are arrogant jackasses who were content to let the new kids on the block kill each other to their hearts' content, until it threatened to disturb their quiet evening, at which point they just put a halt to the whole thing and pretended it was for some high-minded reasons about the future, rather than because it was about to inconvenience them.
(I think I had Grunt call them out on this once...)
I would not want arrogant jackass war mongers bringing in infantile rivalry about the place either, especially if other worlds would unwillingly get pulled into it as well. I'd have done the same as the Organians had I the power to do so.
You would have declined to use your godlike powers to assist the immature beings killing each other all around you, until it began to inconvenience you personally?
And you would have promptly abandoned them to their old ways as soon as they left your back yard?
I'm not saying peacemaking and peacekeeping isn't a laudable objective, I'm saying that the Organians' intention was more or less exclusively self-interested and their execution extremely poor. And even in TUC, the Klingons sought a peace treaty not out of any real desire for peace, but because Praxis meant they couldn't afford to continue the war.
You seem to be missing the point of the episode.
For the entire episode, Kirk and the Klingons only engage in conflict. Conflict that escalates because these two opposing forces see conflict as the normal and natural means to handle each other. The Organians stop the war to physically show the two sides that there is another way. Kirk's opinion is that the Organians have no right to stop the Federation and the Klingon Empire from fighting. Spock even points out to Kirk "Think about this", and Kirk continues to beat the war drums.
The Organians here are teachers more than some sort of super nanny. While you can lead a horse to water, you cannot force it to drink. I feel the Organians washed their hands of the Federation and it's warmongering neighbors.
I'm not saying peacemaking and peacekeeping isn't a laudable objective, I'm saying that the Organians' intention was more or less exclusively self-interested and their execution extremely poor. And even in TUC, the Klingons sought a peace treaty not out of any real desire for peace, but because Praxis meant they couldn't afford to continue the war.
You seem to be missing the point of the episode.
For the entire episode, Kirk and the Klingons only engage in conflict. Conflict that escalates because these two opposing forces see conflict as the normal and natural means to handle each other. The Organians stop the war to physically show the two sides that there is another way. Kirk's opinion is that the Organians have no right to stop the Federation and the Klingon Empire from fighting. Spock even points out to Kirk "Think about this", and Kirk continues to beat the war drums.
The Organians here are teachers more than some sort of super nanny. While you can lead a horse to water, you cannot force it to drink. I feel the Organians washed their hands of the Federation and it's warmongering neighbors.
I watched that episode recently, about a week back. The Organians were in fact concerned by the presence of the Klingons and Starfleet. However the way they showed how concerned they are about the fuelling tensions and the warmongering of both sides, they keep Kirk and Kor away from the warzone even though Kirk was pushing his luck blowing up that Klingon ammo dump. It should be noted later in the episode that Kor and Kirk were working together against the Organians when they put their foot down and ordered them to case the conflict, and despite Kor's objections one of the Organians mention the Klingons and Starfleet will become fast friends and allies in the future.
I don't agree with the thought that the Organians washed their hands of this war, they purposely stopped it and they knew in the future that their efforts wouldn't be needed, so they didn't actually need to intefere again. A few years later and Praxis exploded paving the way to peace with was further cemented half a century later when the Enterprise-C was destroyed defending the Klingons from the Romulans. But despite the short renewed war with the Klingons a second Khitomer accord was founded and an alliance was born again, but one of mutual need for each other.
in the non canon version, the Federation ignored warnings of shapeshifters manipulating events in the Empire and the Federation and when poorf was asked, the Klingons started up an old war and even that lasted 10 years before again mutual need and the fact the Federation admitted they were wrong through Shon did no end of good to the Klingons on how they saw the Federation.
As far as the Organians are concerned, they knew in advance and it isn't the first time they got involved in affairs and made themselves the bad guy to get others to realise that things could be a lot worse.
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point 1 is okay.
point 2, i'm not so sure on. it's more likely that Kol gave L'Rell enough rope to hang herself from, it's not out of amusement but to find out what honor she had left after knowing about her leaving him behind for Voq and again when Lorca escaped, basically he needed proof of her misdeeds and he got it when L'Rell was walking with the Cornwall and again by having L'Rell join the House of Kor which he allowed, that gave him the means to deal with her without house politics and because she accepted so publicly to the joining, no one can challenge Kol to the claim that she was duped into it.
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As for their being "part of Starfleet" - according to the aforementioned unreliable narrator, it derives its authority from Article XIV, Section 31 of the Federation Charter, not from anything to do with Starfleet at all. That would be akin to claiming that the CIA is part of US Army Intelligence, simply because both of them are supposed to be limited to operating outside the United States.
At no point does Marcus bother lying to Kirk as Slone did with Bashir. He just straight up tells him everything. So that's them being part of SI (incidentally also confirmed by Slone) and Article 14, Section 31 is in the Starfleet Charter not the Federation Charter, this makes it part of Starfleet.
That can only be Starfleet's charter as the Federation didn't exist yet.
As for the obvious reply to that, the Earth Starfleet becomes the Federation one. There's no differences between them and no Andorian or Vulcan influence ever permeates into TOS and any and all driving force in the Federation is human. They don't even change the Delta symbol from the Earth Starfleet to the Federation one.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
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'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
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To be fair, they were outnumbered but if anything good came out of this, it was the discovery of the Klingon's weakness with the cloaking device.
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I mean the discovery's bridge crew. Lorca is having to shout out for reports twice ... I guess Saru did a poor job with those battle drills.
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Not going to do the crew of the Gagarin any good is it?
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is it true they're ending the 'Klingon' War at the end of season 1?
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Yeah. I gotta say, I prefer the outcome of the war ending because the actual characters of the story decided to end it, rather than some godlike alien deciding it should end because it ended up on their doorstep. And anyway where the hell were the Organians when the Feds and Klinks started shooting at each other in the 2280s, in the 2340s, in the 2370s?
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(I think I had Grunt call them out on this once...)
Exactly. Deus Ex Machina is essentially writing into a corner without any reasonable way of escaping.
Although, it is possible that beings like the Organians have a Prime Directive towards lesser beings. I wonder if they would show up if everything is FUBAR'd. Although the most likely reason for their actions is "Dang kids! Get off my lawn!"
Yeah, if the PD idea were the case you'd have expected some sign of them in the "Yesterday's Enterprise" timeline where the Klingons were actually decisively winning.
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> Is everybody going to put things out of context? A cadet getting overexcited about the FUN side of science aboard a highly experimental ship is not quite the same as an experienced captain whose ship is under fire.
I was just making a joke. Chill alright?
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Should a 3rd party be allowed to break up a fight, if the two combatants insist on a fight?
It was interesting to have the "good guy" argue for a continuation of hostilities. I think that, overall, doesn't make it that lame. Of course, I think a genuine understanding between Klingons and Federation would also be a good story.
We had to wait for Undiscovered Country to bring us that story.
See, a third party can enforce peace through superior firepower, but unless the underlying issues that actually led to the conflict are addressed, it's probably going to start right back up again when the third party's attention is elsewhere. We see it all over the world in various insurgencies and frozen wars. Comparably, the Organians' interest in the peace process pretty much ended at their doorstep. And the result was a canon century/STO-canon century-and-a-half of what boiled down to a cold war, even after the Federation and Klingon Empire became officially allies.
Now, in contrast, without spoiling too much of Patrick's and my story The Burning of Berun's World:
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I would not want arrogant jackass war mongers bringing in infantile rivalry about the place either, especially if other worlds would unwillingly get pulled into it as well. I'd have done the same as the Organians had I the power to do so.
And you would have promptly abandoned them to their old ways as soon as they left your back yard?
For the entire episode, Kirk and the Klingons only engage in conflict. Conflict that escalates because these two opposing forces see conflict as the normal and natural means to handle each other. The Organians stop the war to physically show the two sides that there is another way. Kirk's opinion is that the Organians have no right to stop the Federation and the Klingon Empire from fighting. Spock even points out to Kirk "Think about this", and Kirk continues to beat the war drums.
The Organians here are teachers more than some sort of super nanny. While you can lead a horse to water, you cannot force it to drink. I feel the Organians washed their hands of the Federation and it's warmongering neighbors.
I watched that episode recently, about a week back. The Organians were in fact concerned by the presence of the Klingons and Starfleet. However the way they showed how concerned they are about the fuelling tensions and the warmongering of both sides, they keep Kirk and Kor away from the warzone even though Kirk was pushing his luck blowing up that Klingon ammo dump. It should be noted later in the episode that Kor and Kirk were working together against the Organians when they put their foot down and ordered them to case the conflict, and despite Kor's objections one of the Organians mention the Klingons and Starfleet will become fast friends and allies in the future.
I don't agree with the thought that the Organians washed their hands of this war, they purposely stopped it and they knew in the future that their efforts wouldn't be needed, so they didn't actually need to intefere again. A few years later and Praxis exploded paving the way to peace with was further cemented half a century later when the Enterprise-C was destroyed defending the Klingons from the Romulans. But despite the short renewed war with the Klingons a second Khitomer accord was founded and an alliance was born again, but one of mutual need for each other.
in the non canon version, the Federation ignored warnings of shapeshifters manipulating events in the Empire and the Federation and when poorf was asked, the Klingons started up an old war and even that lasted 10 years before again mutual need and the fact the Federation admitted they were wrong through Shon did no end of good to the Klingons on how they saw the Federation.
As far as the Organians are concerned, they knew in advance and it isn't the first time they got involved in affairs and made themselves the bad guy to get others to realise that things could be a lot worse.
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