The Miracle Worker Mega Bundle ships are getting an extra console slot and more power according to the announcement posted on the site. It looks like T6 cruisers could possible get this feature with an upgrade similar to what happened to the T5 ships. Are T6U ships coming?
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It would completely defeated the purpose of the specialization system.
Most likely the extra console slot is just a gimmick, like the Secondary Deflector or and the Heavy/Experimental Weapons slot.
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Universal Console Slot
All Miracle Worker vessels will be fitted with a versatile Console equipment slot which can hold any Engineering, Science, Tactical, or Universal console.
Ergo. that's a full extra console slot (aka, simply a 12th console slot).
Yeah saw the extra power levels and extra universal console slot. That's basically T6U. Selling us more power creep after nerfing the old into the ground. No thanks.
That's a good point. First we got a lofty speech, about having to reign in the power creep, for the long-term survivability of the game and all that, and, what, two month later, they effectively introduce T6-U. Le Sigh.
Huh?! "ANY Engineering, Science, Tactical, or Universal console" denotes precisely an unconditional 12th console, and NOT 'a special, unique, Miracle Worker only' console. It could fit a Locator, or any other console you have.
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Honestly its perfectly logical. Cruisers have always been considered to be Jack of All Trades kind of ships in Star Trek. It makes sense that a 12th console would be flexible enough to accommodate any type of console.
Hopefully the Miracle Worker ships are just the launch platform, and this bonus equipment slot will eventually trickle down to all cruisers.
This should boost Engineering (if not the Profession directly, then the playstyle). These will be cruisers, so no extra Escort boons. A 12th console really is a major thing; so, depending on the boff-layout, we could be looking at a good deal here, stats-wise.
What is the 'Standard Allotment' of Console Slots at Tier 6? Think about the implications of the wording they are using. Did they come right out and say 12?
Until the Stats, don't assume anything with this crowd.
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That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
T6 Ships generally have 10 console slots. Fleet T6 have 11 console slots. The exception to the rule are the Multi-Mission ships which have 11 console slots and are not categorized--officially--as Fleet ships, but rather T6 ships. If these follow the regular ships, then they will have 11 console slots, which would mean there are Fleet variants which will inevitably have 12 console slots. Otherwise, they should have 12 console slots out of the box. Should they just be a regular T6 ships with the extra console slot, I could see people having an issue if their price is $120.
Not yet, but these are coming in 3-packs of career variants per faction, or a 9-pack mega-bundle. All ships in those types of bundles thus far have been treated as fleet grade for their tier. This would be a major reversal if these were not.
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'This is an additional Console slot, above and beyond the standard allotment for ships of the same Tier.'
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"ANY Engineering, Science, Tactical, or Universal console"
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Apart where it says 'This is an additional Console slot, above and beyond the standard allotment for ships of the same Tier.'
Even if upgrading them to Fleet gives them an extra console, literally *everything* in that blog says those ships start out with an extra console already. So, either 11, upgradeable to 12, or simply already at 12 (the latter, as you say, is what they did earlier with ships of this kind).
That's not really what he wrote. "...a special, unique, Miracle Worker only, 12th universal slot..." parses to me as a bonus universal slot for just Miracle Worker ships. It probably should have included ships in the original to avoid ambiguity, but the only consoles so far that could be called Miracle Worker consoles would be the ones coming out with these ships, and those are already just universal consoles. That's just my take on this exchange.
Quite obviously, this 'additional Console slot, above and beyond the standard allotment for ships of the same Tier,' will (for now) only come with the New Miracle Worker ships, if that's what you meant. They say nothing about T6-U for other cruisers. And, if they ever come, not for a long while I think. But, to me, it really does read like the new Miracle Worker ships will enjoy a 12th console (when upgraded to Fleet?)
They have no official name yet. I just call them 'effectively T6-U', but anything goes, T6.5 included. There are those who say a ship like the Valkis is de facco T7-like. I don't care. But a 12th console, to me, really is a major thing; so much so, that I think T6-U, T6.5, T6+, etc, are all good to denote these ships definitely are of a higher class.
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I think it meant "Miracle Worker SHIP" only. It's listed under the specific perks of the Miracle Worker ships.
That being said, my prediction is 11 consoles plus the extra universal for a total of 12. 3 or 9 pack bundle ships usually start with 11 (at tier 6). That with the uni slot, and you have 12.
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If that was meant, then yes, clearly only Miraclee Worker SHIPS will get this extra universal console.
I concur. Iirc, the Command ship bundle released the ships out of C-Store with the max amount of console slots available at the time: 11. So, 12 out-of-box stands to reason. If not, upgradeable to 12 for Fleet version.
Yes. As I said earlier, I don't see T6-U happen any time soon (if ever). This will likely be an exclusive perk for the new Engineering ships, to offset the extra things Tact and Sci got.
They may, at some point, decide to allow T6-U for other Engineering ships too, but certainly not soon, as the current Miracle Worker ships would kinda lose their exclusivity.