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New Dyson ships please.

I love flying these. I have over 50 ships most are t6 and I keep returning to these things. I want to buy more of them. I love the bridge I love the experiment proton weapon. I have seen a few threads lately with people liking them. Please update them.
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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User
    Honestly, I would be really surprised if we ever saw T6 Dyson ships.

    Everything I read back in the day suggested that the Dyson ships were a huge flop sales wise and were overall poorly received by the player base. It seems unlikely to me that they would commit time and resources toward repeating the same mistake twice.

    In the end, I hope everyone that plays STO gets the ship they want. If you want it, I hope you get it.. but I will say I agree with Napalm that the T6 Vor'cha has to be next. It's absolutely ridiculous that one of the most popular and well known canon Klingon ships still doesn't have a T6 variant.
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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    Do we have a T6 vor'cha yet? No you say. Than NO. Seriously stop asking for ships when the KDF doesn't even have their BASIC canon ships T6ed yet.

    No offense, but that feels like a rather lousy reason to begrudge others their desired ship.
    Honestly, I would be really surprised if we ever saw T6 Dyson ships.

    Everything I read back in the day suggested that the Dyson ships were a huge flop sales wise and were overall poorly received by the player base. It seems unlikely to me that they would commit time and resources toward repeating the same mistake twice.

    In the end, I hope everyone that plays STO gets the ship they want. If you want it, I hope you get it.. but I will say I agree with Napalm that the T6 Vor'cha has to be next. It's absolutely ridiculous that one of the most popular and well known canon Klingon ships still doesn't have a T6 variant.

    I cared for the Dyson ships. Cr*ppy boff layout, too weak, soldered-in cannon was a bust, and what not. But it was Proton, and I loved it. :) And it allowed for a very fun meta. They should just remove a few of the flaws, T6 it, and start selling them -- to me, for one.
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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    Totally would love this. But if I have to chose, Vor'Cha, Nova and Vo'Quv first. ;)


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  • risian4risian4 Member Posts: 3,711 Arc User
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    Do we have a T6 vor'cha yet? No you say. Than NO. Seriously stop asking for ships when the KDF doesn't even have their BASIC canon ships T6ed yet.

    There are KDF Dyson ships... which means you basically shot down an opportunity for the KDF to get new ships. Science ships even. Well done.

  • risian4risian4 Member Posts: 3,711 Arc User
    If they release new Dyson ships, I hope they make the special weapons upgradeable.

    I've never used them much, and that was mainly because the weapon could not be removed or improved + the fact that little effort was put into making proton weaponry more attractive.
  • thay8472thay8472 Member Posts: 6,162 Arc User
    What about a Dyson version of a Cardassian or Undine ship? Dyson Lockbox? :O
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  • risian4risian4 Member Posts: 3,711 Arc User
    edited July 2017
    thay8472 wrote: »
    What about a Dyson version of a Cardassian or Undine ship? Dyson Lockbox? :O

    A Dyson version of an Undine ship would make sense, given their presence in the Sphere. But it seems that only the good guys are able to reverse engineer and adapt advanced technology ;)

    Edit: the good guys and the Klingons of course :p
  • odinforever20000odinforever20000 Member Posts: 1,849 Arc User
    I Second wanting T6 Dysons...Mostly Cuz they are my go to for my KDF and Rom (Those Multimission Warbird beat it out tho..)
    ..Im torn...Im not sure if I want these more or the 29c Temporal Ships to go T6...

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  • djf021djf021 Member Posts: 1,382 Arc User
    edited July 2017
    I've also heard the Dyson ships were not popular, but I liked them. At the time, they were one of (almost the only) the best science ship options for KDF and Romulans, and also the most similar thing to the Vestas. I used both the KDF and Rom T5-U versions for those characters until I finally just got the Paradox for my KDF sci and the Na'kuhl Science ship for my Rom.
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,581 Community Moderator
    I think what made the Dyson ships less popular was it was supposed to be a hybrid ship... that didn't excel at anything. And the fact the fused Proton Cannons could not be swapped out because they were part of the transformation system. And switching the Tac and Sci Lt. Commander BOffs to Commander with a flip of a switch was gimmicky and didn't always work.

    However... if used as only a destroyer or science ship... they weren't TOO bad of an option. Especially for Science starved KDF and Romulans. Any T6 treatment could address these issues and add some well deserved Science to KDF and Romulans.
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    Do we have a T6 vor'cha yet? No you say. Than NO. Seriously stop asking for ships when the KDF doesn't even have their BASIC canon ships T6ed yet.

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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    And now with the Heavy Proton Charge Weapon from the Xindi-Reptilian Sistruus Escort [T6], Proton is becoming somewhat more fashionable on Escorts. Now that would be interesting, make the T6 Dyson Science Escorts instead of Science Destroyers. Betcha they would become more popular then. :)
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  • memnoch#6978 memnoch Member Posts: 197 Arc User
    > @ltminns said:
    > And now with the Heavy Proton Charge Weapon from the Xindi-Reptilian Sistruus Escort [T6], Proton is becoming somewhat more fashionable on Escorts. Now that would be interesting, make the T6 Dyson Science Escorts instead of Science Destroyers. Betcha they would become more popular then. :)
  • memnoch#6978 memnoch Member Posts: 197 Arc User
    This.
  • tigerariestigeraries Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    only if they ditch the class swapping toggle for the ship... just release it as a 4/2 (with fused proton dual heavy cannon) SCI ship with command sci & command tac with lt command eng and lt universal boff seating. with 4 sci, 4 tac & 3 eng consoles. wouldnt hurt to fuse onto one of the rear weapon slots a 360 degree heavy proton beam weapon, for the target sub-systems.

    yeah your talking fused cannons up front and fused 360 beam in rear... that will leave you with 3 front and 1 rear weapon slots you can play with.
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  • ssbn655ssbn655 Member Posts: 1,894 Arc User
    I love flying these. I have over 50 ships most are t6 and I keep returning to these things. I want to buy more of them. I love the bridge I love the experiment proton weapon. I have seen a few threads lately with people liking them. Please update them.

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  • memnoch#6978 memnoch Member Posts: 197 Arc User
    Yes
  • salazarrazesalazarraze Member Posts: 3,794 Arc User
    I'm going to go the opposite direction with this. Not only should we NOT have T6 Dyson ships, I would request that we completely remove the existing T5 Dyson ships from the c-store.
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,581 Community Moderator
    I'm going to go the opposite direction with this. Not only should we NOT have T6 Dyson ships, I would request that we completely remove the existing T5 Dyson ships from the c-store.

    And why would you request that?
    Sure they're not the best ships... but they ARE science ships. Some of the FEW high tier options KDF and Romulans have.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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  • antonine3258antonine3258 Member Posts: 2,391 Arc User
    I'm a fan of the Dysons, I think they're all pretty decent looking (with the Romulan being gorgeous and the Klingon very solid) - my one regret is I've never found where the secondary deflector gets covered up on the Rommies.
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  • dumas13dumas13 Member Posts: 281 Arc User
    I've always loved my Romulan Dyson, but the other two never really grew on me at all.

    I'd be more enthusiastic about T6 Dysons if Cryptic hadn't set a precedent with the flagship and multi-mission ship packs (and maybe one or two others). 9 Dysons are a bit more than I'm willing to buy and I really would like to own one ship for each faction if I get any at all.
  • saber1973asaber1973a Member Posts: 1,225 Arc User
    I liked the Dyson ships so much, that i buyed the Megabundle as soon as i saved enough Zen... which was after T6 ships got introduced. B)
    Now, i don't use them that much actually, but i'm not sorry that i got them.

    The mode toggle gimmick is nice... the only other ships that i saw using something like that are the veteran ships and the Ferengi ships with consoles sets (i think, though they are not switching weapons or BOFFs). The fused proton cannons i think should be changed to normal weapon slot, that would only work in tactical mode. Add to it some new (or old, but upgraded) consoles, and a T6 versions could be powerfull ships (and maybe add heavy weapon slots that also work only in tac mode?).
    ...
    Anyway, if Zen Store would get a T6 versions of Dyson Sci-Destroyers, it would be must-have for me...
  • memnoch#6978 memnoch Member Posts: 197 Arc User
    I agree. I want to do a build on a t6 Dyson. I would by the whole group.
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    ltminns wrote: »
    And now with the Heavy Proton Charge Weapon from the Xindi-Reptilian Sistruus Escort [T6], Proton is becoming somewhat more fashionable on Escorts. Now that would be interesting, make the T6 Dyson Science Escorts instead of Science Destroyers. Betcha they would become more popular then. :)


    I still have all Protonic gear/sets (at Epic) from the days of lore. This could be interesting. I don't think a T6 Dyson will have room for a Heavy Proton Charge Weapon, though.
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  • tunebreakertunebreaker Member Posts: 1,222 Arc User
    Dyson ships bad? Are you sure we are playing the same game? If yes, are you sure you are flying the vessel outside the story mission, where you were forced to fly it with absolutely horrible layout?

    Yes, they are only T5(U) which means they are not in the absolute top, but even my freebie DSD is not very far away from my T5U Vestas.
  • odinforever20000odinforever20000 Member Posts: 1,849 Arc User
    saber1973a wrote: »
    I liked the Dyson ships so much, that i buyed the Megabundle as soon as i saved enough Zen... which was after T6 ships got introduced. B)
    Now, i don't use them that much actually, but i'm not sorry that i got them.
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    Anyway, if Zen Store would get a T6 versions of Dyson Sci-Destroyers, it would be must-have for me...
    I agree. I want to do a build on a t6 Dyson. I would by the whole group.

    I would buy them as a T6 complete pack also.

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  • memnoch#6978 memnoch Member Posts: 197 Arc User
    I knew there were more fans of the Dyson ships out there. If they do these t6 I will have to make a captain proton for my proton build.lol
  • antonine3258antonine3258 Member Posts: 2,391 Arc User
    They're actually better than they were on release too, thanks to someone figuring out how to aim a cannon for subsystem targeting.

    (And protonic polaron isn't the worst thing against 'high-tech' enemies with lots of shield and low hull)
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    Do we have a T6 vor'cha yet? No you say. Than NO. Seriously stop asking for ships when the KDF doesn't even have their BASIC canon ships T6ed yet.
    No offense, but that feels like a rather lousy reason to begrudge others their desired ship.
    It's not about begrudging...it's about why the frak is that ship not available yet for the KDF. I don't even want the ship. I will not buy it as I am more of an escort junkie than cruisers. But seriously, it is like the second most recognized klingon ship. Come on.
    I'm 90% sure Lethean ships look cooler than Klingon ships. Ferasan, Nausicaan, Orion and Gorn definitely do. ;p
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