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Auto Travel sometimes fails, since Season 13

Sometimes when I click on a destination in the map and then "OK" for Auto Travel, my ship merely engages the throttle and flies in the direction it's already facing indefinitely. It seems like it happens the most when I first log in to a character. Then after I rezone the problem usually goes away.

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  • where2r1where2r1 Member Posts: 6,054 Arc User
    I have noticed this, too, only once in a blue moon. Though it is really not that big a deal...just annoying and strange.

    I usually set the destination and open the DOFF window and expect my ship to be there once I close it. For a while I was thinking the connection to the KDF Fleet Starbase was broken (that is where I was usually flying to when I notice I was not stopping).

    I really haven't isolated it.
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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,569 Arc User
    I fly right through the Clusters and don't stop even though that is my destination.
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  • where2r1where2r1 Member Posts: 6,054 Arc User
    OK.... something else I noticed today with this...it happens after using Transwarp from Alpha Quadrant over to Q'onos. When I leave Q'onos system and use auto travel from the map to go to Fleet Starbase....it doesn't work.

    It locks at 1/2 impulse and just glides you in whatever direction your ship was facing at the time auto travel should have activated. And one just flies right by chosen destination.
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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,569 Arc User
    Whatever was wrong with Clusters seems to have corrected itself, or maybe not a problem on some of my Characters.
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    That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
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  • johnnyray14#4257 johnnyray14 Member Posts: 188 Arc User
    The pattern I've noticed the most lately is that just after I finish a mission, the next Auto Travel fails, at least in the Romulan Mystery episode.
  • where2r1where2r1 Member Posts: 6,054 Arc User
    edited May 2017
    The pattern I've noticed the most lately is that just after I finish a mission, the next Auto Travel fails, at least in the Romulan Mystery episode.

    Yeah, I had that happen to one of my characters after doing an episode in the "Cardassian Struggle" list...."Second Wave". But I don't spend a lot of time doing missions....so, I notice it more when I am DOFFing.

    So, on DOFFing it seems to have something to do with switching maps.
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  • salvation4salvation4 Member Posts: 1,167 Arc User
    i noticed that after clicking "OK" my ship will circle the area like a vulture at times, not always..
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  • arionisaarionisa Member Posts: 1,421 Arc User
    I have seen it since well before season 13 but it never happened often enough to get my lazy backside to file a bug report on it.
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  • where2r1where2r1 Member Posts: 6,054 Arc User
    I was talking to Frtoaster about it. He says some version of this has been going on since Sector Space Revamp.
    While, I just started noticing this with Season 13 patch.

    It does not happen very often and difficult to reproduce to even make a bug report on it, anyways.

    I am just going to assume: once in a while the Auto Travel gets mixed up data and the command does not (or can not) finish completely. And best to just re-send the activation if one is drifting away too far off course...or take over the helm, and do it manually. LOL!
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  • daderganonumbersdaderganonumbers Member Posts: 65 Arc User
    I've been getting this since the Season 13 drop. I find if I simply target a new destination and then reset my original intended course, it works.
  • gaevsmangaevsman Member Posts: 3,190 Arc User
    Happened to me but only on one of my chars that have a Fleet Engine...
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  • mephizton2092mephizton2092 Member Posts: 110 Arc User
    Having this bugg for a loner time, pre season.
    Kinda annoying when u do tour de galaxy (which actually makes it tour de rage for me :pensive: )
    Think 1st time i noticed it, was after previous Risa event.
    It's annoying. But it doesn't happen everytime.
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  • where2r1where2r1 Member Posts: 6,054 Arc User
    Having this bugg for a loner time, pre season.
    Kinda annoying when u do tour de galaxy (which actually makes it tour de rage for me :pensive: )
    Think 1st time i noticed it, was after previous Risa event.
    It's annoying. But it doesn't happen everytime.

    Were you seeing it tied to "Transwarp" or map changes, too?
    I still can not get it to reproduce reliably....though I still see it often enough to make me go, "Hmmmmm...."
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  • frtoasterfrtoaster Member Posts: 3,352 Arc User
    I can reliably reproduce this bug on my KDF characters now. Although I have not found a way to reproduce it on my other characters, I do not believe the bug is specific to the KDF faction. I remember seeing the bug on a Federation character long before Season 13. If I remember correctly, in those cases, it was after a transwarp during Tour the Galaxy.

    To reproduce the bug on a KDF character:
    1. Warp out from the Qo'noS System to the Beta Quadrant.
    2. Press M to open the map. Click on the New Romulus System. Then click OK to begin auto-travel.
    3. Notice that your ship continues to fly in the direction you were facing at half speed.
    4. Press A to turn left. Then repeat step 2 to auto-travel to the New Romulus System.
    5. Notice that your ship continues to fly at half speed without changing direction.
    6. Press D to turn right. Then repeat step 2 to auto-travel to the New Romulus System.
    7. Notice that your ship continues to fly at half speed without changing direction.
    8. Press R to bring the ship to a full stop. Press R again to bring the ship to full speed.
    9. Repeat step 2 to auto-travel to the New Romulus System.
    10. Notice that your ship continues to fly in the same direction, but slows down to half speed.
    11. Now do one of the following:
      • Press S to turn up.
      • Press W to turn down.
      • Press M to open the map. Click on another location, such as the Dyson Sphere Gateway. Click OK to begin auto-travel to the second location.
    12. Repeat step 2 to resume auto-travel to the New Romulus System.
    13. Notice that this time your ship correctly turns toward the New Romulus System and flies toward it at full speed after facing the correct direction.
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  • where2r1where2r1 Member Posts: 6,054 Arc User
    Hmmm... I wonder if they fixed this problem on the Fed side already but did not complete the KDF side?

    I am almost always playing my Klingon or KDF Romulan.
    My Fed characters could be jettisoned...except I use them for storage.
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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,569 Arc User
    Something strange happened last night. I logged into one of my Characters that was in the Ferengi Sector. I opened up the map and clicked on Defera, confirmed, and headed in exactly the 180° opposite direction. Tried clicking on Defera twice more on the Map with confirmations and kept going in exactly the opposite direction. I ended up Transwarping there instead.

    I'm not 100% about travel when in these newly added Sectors.
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    Judge Dan Haywood
    'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
    l don't know.
    l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
    That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
    Lt. Philip J. Minns
  • where2r1where2r1 Member Posts: 6,054 Arc User
    edited May 2017
    Yeah, this morning I was able to cause this to happen without doing a mission. Still included the use of Transwarp from Alpha Quad over to Beta Quad (by the Fleet Dil Mine over to Qo'nos, this time).

    I guess, I don't use transwarp other wise....next time I will just fly to the edge and use the map transition from Alpha to Beta and see if that makes a difference.

    Same thing: Stuck at half throttle, going in the direction ship is facing when warp to the Sector space map. The Auto Travel does not set the trajectory to the destination properly the first time after transwarp. Selecting a second destination, "breaks the spell", so to speak.

    Edit: Just now, completed "Mirrors and Smoke"...this time Transwarped from Gon'cra Nebula area to Defera....as in went from Alpha Quad location to another Alpha Quad location. This takes me to Defera System Space....then used the warp out button. Then used Auto Travel to DS9...did not work. Changed destination to Bajor, that didn't unlock it. So, I picked the Vlugta Dil Mine that worked...then reset the course to DS9. (I am guessing Bajor and DS 9 are the same location/transwarp destination?)


    So, it is attached to the first Auto Travel destination...after using Transwarp to System space then going from System space to Sector space. ???? Probably goes the other way too.... using Transwarp to Sector Space destination from System Space.

    @frtoaster...verify? I am off to cook dinner.
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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,569 Arc User
    edited May 2017
    Was at Iconia this morning, where I signed off last night after running 'Uneasy Allies'. I set course on the Sector Map to go to the Azalea Nebula. Kept going to the Azure Nebula at half speed. Tried a few times to re-click on the Sector Map to Azalea; the crew wouldn't obey. Had to turn the ship and fly a bit then it seemed to work. This is getting a bit frustrating.

    Edit: When I was parked outside Iconia, I believe I was facing in the direction of the Azure Nebula on the Sector Map.
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    'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
    Judge Dan Haywood
    'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
    l don't know.
    l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
    That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
    Lt. Philip J. Minns
  • frtoasterfrtoaster Member Posts: 3,352 Arc User
    where2r1 wrote: »
    Edit: Just now, completed "Mirrors and Smoke"...this time Transwarped from Gon'cra Nebula area to Defera....as in went from Alpha Quad location to another Alpha Quad location. This takes me to Defera System Space....then used the warp out button. Then used Auto Travel to DS9...did not work. Changed destination to Bajor, that didn't unlock it. So, I picked the Vlugta Dil Mine that worked...then reset the course to DS9. (I am guessing Bajor and DS 9 are the same location/transwarp destination?)

    This is what I discovered on a Federation character. After warping out of the Defera System, my ship is facing almost straight toward DS9 and Bajor. If I auto-travel to DS9, the ship initially seems to travel in the correct direction. It travels at full speed until it gets close to DS9. Then it slows down to half speed. It will continue flying at half speed straight past DS9, unless it bumps into a planet or moon in the Bajor System. In that case, the bump throws the ship off course, after which it will correct course and correctly navigate to DS9. Pretty much the same thing happens if I auto-travel to Bajor. The only difference is that the ship will slow down from one-half to one-quarter speed when it gets really close to Bajor. Once it gets further away, it will increase its speed to one-half again. It will fly straight past Bajor, unless it bumps into a planet or a moon, forcing it to correct course.
    where2r1 wrote: »
    So, it is attached to the first Auto Travel destination...after using Transwarp to System space then going from System space to Sector space. ???? Probably goes the other way too.... using Transwarp to Sector Space destination from System Space.

    I don't believe the bug is specifically tied to transwarp. I can reproduce the bug without using transwarp. I believe what matters is your starting position, the destination you select for auto-travel, and the direction your ship is facing. The question is how sensitive the bug is to these conditions. For example, is the bug still reproducible if your starting position is slightly different?
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  • where2r1where2r1 Member Posts: 6,054 Arc User
    Well, I don't think I have ever seen what you see: throttle down as it comes close to the destination and throttle back up, again. Mine get locked at half throttle from the start...that is how I can tell the darn thing is not doing what it is supposed to be doing.

    Though you are correct...from what I recall.....most of the time the ship is already facing very close to the direction it needs to be heading. Example: coming out into Sector space from Defera System....your ship lands facing toward DS9/Bajor. From Qo'nos System....ship comes out to Sector space facing toward KDF Fleet Starbase, I believe. And transwarp to Azure nebula...is in sector space facing New Romulus. That is how I was testing, though.

    I should see what changes if I move auto travel locations to the opposite direction.

    Auto travel when working correctly....ship is at half throttle as it orients itself to the trajectory it needs to head (I.O.W. turning)...then ramps up to full throttle once it is facing the correct direction. Then, throttle turns OFF completely as ship comes to a stop at the destination. (That is how I learned, turn down throttle to turn better in the game...LOL!)

    If it isn't transwarp, then transition to system space immediately....though I never seen auto travel get hung up until I use transwarp. (At least, not YET.) Something is still getting incorrect data about orientation of the ship...because it never sets the ship to the proper course and never goes to full throttle. Like it is waiting for confirmation or something. Confirmation it will never get because: ship doesn't have the correct heading or never got set to the proper heading.

    BUT it doesn't do it all the time....because it did not do it for me today. At all.
    I am ready to call it lag or data loss causing errors at this point.
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  • frtoasterfrtoaster Member Posts: 3,352 Arc User
    where2r1 wrote: »
    Auto travel when working correctly....ship is at half throttle as it orients itself to the trajectory it needs to head (I.O.W. turning)...then ramps up to full throttle once it is facing the correct direction. Then, throttle turns OFF completely as ship comes to a stop at the destination. (That is how I learned, turn down throttle to turn better in the game...LOL!)

    Yes, that's what happens when auto-travel works correctly.

    where2r1 wrote: »
    If it isn't transwarp, then transition to system space immediately....though I never seen auto travel get hung up until I use transwarp. (At least, not YET.) Something is still getting incorrect data about orientation of the ship...because it never sets the ship to the proper course and never goes to full throttle. Like it is waiting for confirmation or something. Confirmation it will never get because: ship doesn't have the correct heading or never got set to the proper heading.

    I don't believe it's necessarily tied to map transitions either. I think it's dependent on position and angle. Transwarps to sector space probably bring your ship to the same spot each time. If I remember correctly, warping out of a system puts your ship close to the same spot, but not necessarily the exact same spot. It might depend on what other ships are around; I think the game tries to avoid stacking ships on top of each other.
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  • where2r1where2r1 Member Posts: 6,054 Arc User
    edited May 2017
    frtoaster wrote: »
    I don't believe it's necessarily tied to map transitions either. I think it's dependent on position and angle. Transwarps to sector space probably bring your ship to the same spot each time. If I remember correctly, warping out of a system puts your ship close to the same spot, but not necessarily the exact same spot. It might depend on what other ships are around; I think the game tries to avoid stacking ships on top of each other.

    I might be able sit there and try it next weekend while I am doing laundry.
    But Mirror Event for Lukari marks may be in my future. Sooooo....probably not. LOL!

    BTW....I got hung up again. Transwarp to Qo'nos System...went and turned in contraband in First City....then did Recruitment at KDF Academy....then went directly from KDF Academy to Sector space outside Qo'nos... Auto Traveled to I forgot where...stuck at half throttle going a weird direction.

    That's a new one...that part about the First City/Academy.

    So...you may not think it is tied to Transwarp....but I think it is.
    Though...may not be tied to map transitions on Ground??? Or something like that???

    Add: In other words, I don't think my ship would have got hung up on Auto Travel...had I flown directly to Qo'nos in Sector Space, instead of getting bored of waiting and hit Transwarp there.
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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,569 Arc User
    Traveled to five Clusters tonight via selection on the Sector Map on one Character. Had to manually power off the Warp Drive when I arrived at each one as I wasn't going to stop.
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    Judge Dan Haywood
    'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
    l don't know.
    l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
    That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
    Lt. Philip J. Minns
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