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I was just wondering now since the Alliance has been established. Do you think the different factions in game will has access to areas of the game that were not accessible before. Examples would be KDF having access to ESD, Star Fleet Academy, and the Federation having access to the Romulan Flotilla and the Klingon homeworld. There is more, but not going to list them all.What do you guys think?
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  • risian4risian4 Member Posts: 3,711 Arc User
    I hope they remove the factions soon, at least for players of level 50/60.

    Enable cross-faction teaming, Armada forming, ship purchasing, DOFFing... there's little reason to keep all this separated and story-wise it would make sense to at least some degree too.

    All factions would keep their unique storyline as those explain how we got where we are, but after that, where we are should be made more clear by removing all the restrictions.
  • risian4risian4 Member Posts: 3,711 Arc User
    In other words, being able to visit the other factions' social zones would only be a small detail of what I hope they'll do, and not even the most important thing for me.
  • gradiigradii Member Posts: 2,824 Arc User
    I think faction identity is still important. Cross faction teaming yes but no to being able to visit other factions zones and buy their ships.

    "He shall be my finest warrior, this generic man who was forced upon me.
    Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
    he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
    In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
    He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
    He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
    He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
    He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."
  • jaguarskxjaguarskx Member Posts: 5,945 Arc User
    Honestly, I don't really care.
  • risian4risian4 Member Posts: 3,711 Arc User
    Well I wouldn't want to fly a Klingon ship anyway... but to make the idea complete :)
  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    For the love of everything holly, I hope that never happens. No need to turn Qo'noS and New Romulus Command into the cesspool that is ESD. :D It's quite enough that they made us share sector chat with those numskulls! >:):D
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  • feiqafeiqa Member Posts: 2,410 Arc User
    Hmm. A fed character on a bird of prey. . . Can we get the chance to fly under a bridge too? ;)

    Originally Posted by pwlaughingtrendy
    Network engineers are not ship designers.
    Nor should they be. Their ships would look weird.
  • risian4risian4 Member Posts: 3,711 Arc User
    edited February 2017
    shpoks wrote: »
    For the love of everything holly, I hope that never happens. No need to turn Qo'noS and New Romulus Command into the cesspool that is ESD. :D It's quite enough that they made us share sector chat with those numskulls! >:):D

    Hi shpoks, welcome in our universe. If you need assistance returning to your mirror one, please let me know :p

    Edit: double post.. and in the wrong order too
  • risian4risian4 Member Posts: 3,711 Arc User
    edited February 2017
    shpoks wrote: »
    For the love of everything holly, I hope that never happens. No need to turn Qo'noS and New Romulus Command into the cesspool that is ESD. :D It's quite enough that they made us share sector chat with those numskulls! >:):D

    Not that I disagree with the 'cesspool' and 'ESD' thing btw, that part is quite true.
  • risian4risian4 Member Posts: 3,711 Arc User
    risian4 wrote: »
    Enable cross-faction teaming, Armada forming, ship purchasing, DOFFing... there's little reason to keep all this separated and story-wise it would make sense to at least some degree too.
    IIRC, Cryptic said in the past they had tested cross faction teaming/armada forming and it worked.

    And GECKO said a possible PVP revamp would likely have cross faction teaming since faction numbers are too imbalanced for it to be FED vs KDF, and even mentioning that the factions are all allies now anyways.

    I suspect at least some of that will be done when PVP gets a revamp, like GECKO said it would.

    I hope they implement it soon then. It would definitely be an improvement imo.
  • gradiigradii Member Posts: 2,824 Arc User
    I hope for cross faction teaming as much as anyone but keep the faction hubs for the factions theyre intended for. and keep faction ships as faction ships.

    "He shall be my finest warrior, this generic man who was forced upon me.
    Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
    he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
    In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
    He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
    He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
    He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
    He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."
  • feiqafeiqa Member Posts: 2,410 Arc User
    Just to be clear. My previous post was in jest. I actually think we should keep the ship sales separate. But visiting each other's social hubs would be nice alliance wise. And if they made future Alliance vessels carry elements of all three primary members those would be cool to have across the board.

    Originally Posted by pwlaughingtrendy
    Network engineers are not ship designers.
    Nor should they be. Their ships would look weird.
  • echattyechatty Member Posts: 5,913 Arc User
    Yes, enable cross-faction teaming. But ships/hubs to their respective factions.

    Although I wouldn't object if ships/hubs were opened, just my opinion is they shouldn't be.
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  • revanindustriesrevanindustries Member Posts: 508 Arc User
    IMO if they did make the faction hubs open to all it should be an added function of the Diplomatic Immunity/Marauding Party buff: timed access to cross-faction hubs.

    As for ships, that should stay separate.
  • psycoticvulcanpsycoticvulcan Member Posts: 4,160 Arc User
    edited February 2017
    Queue hundreds of new players asking, "Wait, why are there Klingons on ESD? Aren't we supposed to be at war with them?"
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  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    gradii wrote: »
    I hope for cross faction teaming as much as anyone but keep the faction hubs for the factions theyre intended for. and keep faction ships as faction ships.

    ^this....

    frankly I honestly hope for a miraculous miracle and the alliance to die a painful death and we get to have 3 different perspectives for missions.... We can all tackle the same meta plot w/o all sounding like a sniveling fed moron.
  • feiqafeiqa Member Posts: 2,410 Arc User
    gradii wrote: »
    I hope for cross faction teaming as much as anyone but keep the faction hubs for the factions theyre intended for. and keep faction ships as faction ships.

    ^this....

    frankly I honestly hope for a miraculous miracle and the alliance to die a painful death and we get to have 3 different perspectives for missions.... We can all tackle the same meta plot w/o all sounding like a sniveling fed moron.

    Heeey. AoY characters don't snivel.

    Originally Posted by pwlaughingtrendy
    Network engineers are not ship designers.
    Nor should they be. Their ships would look weird.
  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    The factions are just suffering from a long case of gameplay inertia. The romulan alliance system should've been expanded to a full 3-way with Delta Rising, when they first started calling us the Alliance. And the rest of the restrictions removed with the iconian war.
  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    warpangel wrote: »
    The romulan alliance system should've been expanded to a full 3-way with Delta Rising
    I would disagree, the Roms are nowhere near the level of the Feds/KDF in terms of size or power in lore.
    What's that got to do with anything?
  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,501 Arc User
    This might work if there was a character flag for "has completed the alliance episode" and players with that flag were placed into separate instances.

    Low-level players would see only their own faction. Once they were part of the alliance then the KDF or feds would show up.
  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    edited February 2017
    warpangel wrote: »
    What's that got to do with anything?
    Literally everything

    It wouldn't make sense for them to have become a full true third faction when they are not, and are nowhere near the level of reaching such a state, since they have only been around for two years in universe time.
    I have no idea what you mean by "full true third faction."

    I said they should've given everyone the alliance perks (boffs, doffs, low-tier ships, zone access, team access, fleet access, etc) like the romulans have at DR release. 3-way Alliance, 3-way perks. And removed the restrictions completely sometime during the iconian war. What's that got to do with the romulans' "size or power in lore?"
  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,331 Arc User
    Not likely considering the Alliance isn't formed until after the Solanae/Dyson Arc. The most you can expect is changing of the mission teaming for the missions after that. It has to be a mission triggered event too or you'll have people teaming in the first 10 or so Arc where we're at war with each other.

    Whilst I'm not against cross-faction teaming for those missions, I am against full integration as the Fed in me doesn't trust the KDF in me and the Rom in me is two minds about everything! lol
    "You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    edited February 2017
    warpangel wrote: »
    I said they should've given everyone the alliance perks
    You
    warpangel wrote: »
    The romulan alliance system should've been expanded to a full 3-way with Delta Rising,
    There is no "Romulan Alliance" outside of the Romulan Republic alliance with the Remen.
    Yes...me. [/agentsmith]

    Have you ever actually played a romulan? During the mission "Turning Point," the Romulan Republic allies itself with the Federation and the Klingon Empire. The player then has to choose to receive perks from one or the other, which doesn't really make sense but is obviously done to conform to the existing faction mechanics. This is the alliance mechanic I'm referring to.

    Also, I still have no idea what exactly is your point.
  • lowy1lowy1 Member Posts: 964 Arc User
    Teaming, joining fleets/ Armadas, and social zones are good, but ships should be separate.
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  • ikonn#1068 ikonn Member Posts: 1,448 Arc User
    edited February 2017
    Teaming? Sure
    Ships? Faction ships should remain as they are.
    Armadas? Undecided.
    Social Zone Access? My take is a bit different...

    Instead of unlocking ESD for the KDF, for example, why not create a social zone that is accessible by all players either past a certain level (50-60) or have the new social zone as a mission unlock.

    One option is to have a "mostly-completed" New Romulus as the "Alliance" social zone instead of making a new zone for it.

    Alternatively, update and release the Captain's Table for access by everyone. I seriously doubt many LTSers would see a problem with that... I definitely won't. The asset is already in the game and would probably make more sense as far as time needed to update it and to add a few things to bring it up to par with other social zones. There are already representatives from the major factions already there, and it makes more sense "theme-wise".

    Keep ESD as it is... for the lower levels and attention-TRIBBLE.
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