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Mining missions borked?!

meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
in Star Trek Online General Discussion
Hmm, yesterday the 'Mine Dilithium motherlode' mission not just failed, but ended in disaster. That should not have happened at all, as the listed chance for disaster is always 0% with the mining doffs I use.

And today *both* mining missions failed: also extremely uncommon, as both only have a failure chance of 4% each. (Mind you, not impossible per se, but highly uncommon)

So, is this happening to others too?
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  • rickscv1975rickscv1975 Member Posts: 11 Arc User
    You are aware that even though 4% is a low chance, it's still a chance.

    Congrads.. Your luck in failing was still better than the luck some people have winning a ship out of a lockbox.
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    rickscv1975 wrote: »
    You are aware that even though 4% is a low chance, it's still a chance.

    Congrads.. Your luck in failing was still better than the luck some people have winning a ship out of a lockbox.


    And you are aware I said "(Mind you, not impossible per se, but highly uncommon)", right?!

    And it's not just 1x 4%; both missions failed together. Plus, the other day one ended in disaster too, which should be impossible.
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  • rickscv1975rickscv1975 Member Posts: 11 Arc User
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    rickscv1975 wrote: »
    You are aware that even though 4% is a low chance, it's still a chance.

    Congrads.. Your luck in failing was still better than the luck some people have winning a ship out of a lockbox.


    And you are aware I said "(Mind you, not impossible per se, but highly uncommon)", right?!

    And it's not just 1x 4%; both missions failed together. Plus, the other day one ended in disaster too, which should be impossible.

    Well since you obviously know, why did you bother making a thread about it? Complain just to complain?
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    rickscv1975 wrote: »
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    rickscv1975 wrote: »
    You are aware that even though 4% is a low chance, it's still a chance.

    Congrads.. Your luck in failing was still better than the luck some people have winning a ship out of a lockbox.


    And you are aware I said "(Mind you, not impossible per se, but highly uncommon)", right?!

    And it's not just 1x 4%; both missions failed together. Plus, the other day one ended in disaster too, which should be impossible.

    Well since you obviously know, why did you bother making a thread about it? Complain just to complain?


    No need to troll this thread.

    It's a simple inquiry, nothing more. And my math kinda sucks, but all those failures in a row, made me wonder, is all.
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  • rickscv1975rickscv1975 Member Posts: 11 Arc User
    No ones trolling you snowflake..

    If it makes you happy I and many others have had both those mining missions with the best horta doffs running them fail to. You got unlucky and it happens.
  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,664 Arc User
    It's been claimed in other threads that 0% chance is not really 0% for doff missions, that there is still some low chance of critical failure. I can't point to any dev post confirming this though.
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    davefenestrator wrote: »
    It's been claimed in other threads that 0% chance is not really 0% for doff missions, that there is still some low chance of critical failure. I can't point to any dev post confirming this though.


    Good to know, thx. I've slotted them again, so I'll see what happens tomorrow.
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  • echattyechatty Member Posts: 5,917 Arc User
    I just slotted both of those missions on two of my toons, I'll see tomorrow if they fail or pass.
    Now a LTS and loving it.
    Just because you spend money on this game, it does not entitle you to be a jerk if things don't go your way.
    I have come to the conclusion that I have a memory like Etch-A-Sketch. I shake my head and forget everything. :D
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    echatty wrote: »
    I just slotted both of those missions on two of my toons, I'll see tomorrow if they fail or pass.

    Thx. :)
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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    Don't like those odds, try the Admiralty Missions. Unless you have 100% there seems to be a pretty good chance it will fail the bulk of the time.

    I have 2% on the 'Mine Dilithium Motherload' and it is vary rare indeed for that to fail. Now the Mine Extra Goodies one I have 10% and that used to fail three or so times a week.
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  • salazarrazesalazarraze Member Posts: 3,794 Arc User
    I've had both missions fail before multiple times. If you do both every day like me, it's BOUND to happen at some point regardless of the low chance. I've never noticed a disaster but I usually don't pay close enough attention beyond green color (success/critical) and/or red color (failure/disaster).
    When you see "TRIBBLE" in my posts, it's because I manually typed "TRIBBLE" and censored myself.
  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    Since the odds are rounded to the nearest 1%, a displayed 0% could actually be anything between 0.000000% and 0.499999%.
  • ventureforthventureforth Member Posts: 16 Arc User
    Its rare, but not unknown. Might just be a string of bad luck.
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  • gjohnny1990gjohnny1990 Member Posts: 116 Arc User
    edited February 2017
    The chances system they use in doffing is complete and utter bollocks, too often has something failed when it had a 1% chance of failure, the system is clearly rigged to fail more than it lets on because it attempts to frustrate the player into spending money instead.

    I once had not one but three missions fail on me at one point, all together - each one had less than a 3% chance of failure, if that's not rigged I don't know what is.
  • plaztikman64plaztikman64 Member Posts: 725 Arc User
    People win in lotteries or get struck by lightning, or both at the same time!! The very nature of our existence is the result of a chain of events, most of them where also almost impossible to happen, statistically speaking though.
  • saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 4,404 Arc User
    edited February 2017
    Like how a few players get a very rare T6 ship on their first box, or two in a row, you can badly fail two assignments seemingly impossible to be failed.

    That's the "magic" of RNG. It can be an epic win, an epic fail or anything between.

    I once got a T5 bugship on the second pack. Before and after that day, for more than 1,000 days I've been keeping getting bad luck with boxes. *shrugs*
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  • echattyechatty Member Posts: 5,917 Arc User
    Okay, as a FYI, On both of mine I got 50/50. Both had completion on the Dilithium mission and failed the other one. They're also lower level chars, so don't have real good DOFFs to use.
    Now a LTS and loving it.
    Just because you spend money on this game, it does not entitle you to be a jerk if things don't go your way.
    I have come to the conclusion that I have a memory like Etch-A-Sketch. I shake my head and forget everything. :D
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