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velquavelqua Member Posts: 1,220 Arc User
Since we are dealing with Protomatter and 23rd Century gear, any chance at getting a Genesis Torpedo to create our own world? After all, the Lukari have found a way to stabilize protomatter, so there shouldn't be an issue with a new Marcus Genesis Torp.
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  • smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,668 Arc User
    velqua wrote: »
    Since we are dealing with Protomatter and 23rd Century gear, any chance at getting a Genesis Torpedo to create our own world? After all, the Lukari have found a way to stabilize protomatter, so there shouldn't be an issue with a new Marcus Genesis Torp.

    That would be cool for a new fleet holding..... (^_^)V

    Make your own planet, fleets.......though it might destroy itself in a few weeks >_>
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  • velquavelqua Member Posts: 1,220 Arc User
    velqua wrote: »
    Since we are dealing with Protomatter and 23rd Century gear, any chance at getting a Genesis Torpedo to create our own world? After all, the Lukari have found a way to stabilize protomatter, so there shouldn't be an issue with a new Marcus Genesis Torp.

    That would be cool for a new fleet holding..... (^_^)V

    Make your own planet, fleets.......though it might destroy itself in a few weeks >_>

    Actually, I wouldn't mind having an entire stable Gensis planet as holding, so long as the map was big enough for us to explore (maybe something similar to New Romulus).
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  • officerbatman81officerbatman81 Member Posts: 2,761 Arc User
    The Sims: Star Trek edition this is not
  • velquavelqua Member Posts: 1,220 Arc User
    coolbatman wrote: »
    that would be interesting..............

    Let's hope the Developers are listening, but I wouldn't hold my breath. Great ideas tend to be ignored. :(
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  • lordsteve1lordsteve1 Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    Genesis seems like the obvious choice to fix all those planets the Tzenkethi have blown up already, use the same protomater to return them to life.
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  • asuran14asuran14 Member Posts: 2,335 Arc User
    Might be weird though i could see the genesis torpedo made kinda like the Bio-neural Warhead did, but would be maybe more of a plasma variant of that torpedo. The idea of a tricobalt-like torpedo that has a plasma-based point defense beam system, but would also maybe leave a large plasma cloud behind on impact (though that is kinda standard now for the plasma torps).
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  • asuran14asuran14 Member Posts: 2,335 Arc User
    coolbatman wrote: »
    hmmmm, thats an idea.......protomatter + tricobalt = a better torpedo
    Not going to say it would be a better torpedo, but would be quite fun to use.
  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    Hell of a way to restore Romulus and Remus
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    tacofangs wrote: »
    STO isn't canon, and neither are any of the books.
  • tyler002tyler002 Member Posts: 1,586 Arc User
    edited January 2017
    I'm not sure there's much that could persuade Starfleet to restart Project Genocide when regular terraforming works fine.

    Especially with Tzenkethi providing an example of exactly why it's such a bad idea.
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  • asuran14asuran14 Member Posts: 2,335 Arc User
    Hell of a way to restore Romulus and Remus

    That would take a pretty big gravity well, and then the genesis torpedo to restore. Though that would make a even bigger Romulus that would not have the Remus moon near it. Think of the fun though if the Romulan empire's scattered remnants got thier hands on such a thing, and then did that in an attempt to restore their homeworld. All of the area we could explore that would be brand new, and even a ground war maybe between the empire an republic to retake the world for their own.
  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    asuran14 wrote: »
    Hell of a way to restore Romulus and Remus

    That would take a pretty big gravity well, and then the genesis torpedo to restore. Though that would make a even bigger Romulus that would not have the Remus moon near it. Think of the fun though if the Romulan empire's scattered remnants got thier hands on such a thing, and then did that in an attempt to restore their homeworld. All of the area we could explore that would be brand new, and even a ground war maybe between the empire an republic to retake the world for their own.

    Romulans use artificial singularities for power... I think they know a thing or two about makin a big grav well to pull the planetary detritus back in ;)
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    tacofangs wrote: »
    STO isn't canon, and neither are any of the books.
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  • velquavelqua Member Posts: 1,220 Arc User
    coolbatman wrote: »
    just for giggles i'd like seeing the genesis presentation video with the lady actress doing the voiceover, or even the TSFS video with the B. shatner doing the voiceover.
    and he wouldn't even have to do anything,just use the the voiceover from the movie. i just want to see how it would look when rendered in-game.

    This would be a nice way to get Shatner into the game.
    Hell of a way to restore Romulus and Remus

    If the Genesis Torpedo were to work, I could definitely see the Romulans trying to restore Romulus, which could lead us into the another story arc that involves Sela and the Romulan Republic. I wouldn't mind seeing Denise Crosby return.

    coolbatman wrote: »
    hmmmm, thats an idea.......protomatter + tricobalt = a better torpedo

    Protomatter Tricobalt Launcher ... hmm ... I would like to see that. Make Tricobalts Great Again! :p Definitely something those weapons need. Even a 3-piece console set boost Tricobalts would be nice.
    asuran14 wrote: »
    Hell of a way to restore Romulus and Remus

    That would take a pretty big gravity well, and then the genesis torpedo to restore. Though that would make a even bigger Romulus that would not have the Remus moon near it. Think of the fun though if the Romulan empire's scattered remnants got thier hands on such a thing, and then did that in an attempt to restore their homeworld. All of the area we could explore that would be brand new, and even a ground war maybe between the empire an republic to retake the world for their own.

    Actually, I doubt they would even need to do that. Look at the Mutara Nebula from The Wrath of Khan. It was fairly scatter like Romulus. There really shouldn't be an issue if debris were in the vicinity of the explosion or not.
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 59,179 Community Moderator
    velqua wrote: »
    Actually, I doubt they would even need to do that. Look at the Mutara Nebula from The Wrath of Khan. It was fairly scatter like Romulus. There really shouldn't be an issue if debris were in the vicinity of the explosion or not.

    Well... I think that was the reason the Genesis Planet failed in the first place. While it DID make the planet out of the nebula (and the Reliant), it was designed to be used on a preexisting rocky stellar body. It may have used up most of its energy FORMING the planet, and thus left it unstable.
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  • psiameesepsiameese Member Posts: 1,650 Arc User
    Sounds like the perfect addition to The Foundry.
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  • asuran14asuran14 Member Posts: 2,335 Arc User
    Another idea for the genesis torpedo idea I posted above, which could add something abit different an interesting to make it abit more unique. If they did go with the idea of having it like the Bio-neural warhead torp, maybe the proto-matter plasma cloud it could leave behind on impact could be both a plasma-dot field for enemies, along with a shield/hull healing field for allies that are within the radius of it.
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  • unclegoldieunclegoldie Member Posts: 263 Arc User
    edited January 2017
    The Sims: Star Trek edition this is not

    I kinda think I prefer llamas to epohhs, if that helps. :tongue:
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  • commanderkassycommanderkassy Member Posts: 1,005 Arc User
    edited January 2017
    rattler2 wrote: »
    velqua wrote: »
    Actually, I doubt they would even need to do that. Look at the Mutara Nebula from The Wrath of Khan. It was fairly scatter like Romulus. There really shouldn't be an issue if debris were in the vicinity of the explosion or not.

    Well... I think that was the reason the Genesis Planet failed in the first place. While it DID make the planet out of the nebula (and the Reliant), it was designed to be used on a preexisting rocky stellar body. It may have used up most of its energy FORMING the planet, and thus left it unstable.

    David said it was using protomatter that made it unstable, and he could neither figure out a way to make it work without protomatter nor did he have time to work out a way to make the protomatter completely stable. Basically Mutara was an unscheduled test of the third stage device, and David looked at the scan results of Planet Genesis and was like "Dammit, I was afraid this would happen". He wasn't sure the protomatter would cause the result to be unstable but he definitely knew it was a possibility and hadn't figured out a way to solve the potential problems. If he'd lived, he might have been able to crack the puzzle but he was killed before he could try.

    The Lukari, however, have much more experience with protomatter than Starfleet Science does and its possible that the problems that plagued Genesis and vexed David Marcus were solved by the Lukari long ago. We'll have to see.​​

    One of the books I read was an anthology of three stories. One was a story where see the timeline if Thelin, the Andorian who was first officer in Yesteryear had continued to exist. In it, a Genesis device was used on Praxis in a Federation attack, which stabilized the moon (it was on its way towards eventually exploding). They found out that it wasn't the protomatter that made it unstable, but the fact that the Genesis Planet was formed from a nebula. The Genesis Device turned out to work fine on existing planetary bodies.
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  • asuran14asuran14 Member Posts: 2,335 Arc User
    asuran14 wrote: »
    Another idea for the genesis torpedo idea I posted above, which could add something abit different an interesting to make it abit more unique. If they did go with the idea of having it like the Bio-neural warhead torp, maybe the proto-matter plasma cloud it could leave behind on impact could be both a plasma-dot field for enemies, along with a shield/hull healing field for allies that are within the radius of it.

    Genesis is a terraforming device. We're not getting a weapon based on it.​​

    You really do not know how to understand when someone is putting forth an idea, over saying that we are getting something? Never did I say we were going to get one, but merely that if they did these would be idea that could work. Reading comprehension not your strong suit. For most part all of these are just people throwing out ideas, and conjecture in a fun thread.Also we have had alot of times heard we are not getting something, and then found that fact reversed actually.
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  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    velqua wrote: »
    If the Genesis Torpedo were to work, I could definitely see the Romulans trying to restore Romulus, which could lead us into the another story arc that involves Sela and the Romulan Republic. I wouldn't mind seeing Denise Crosby return.

    Only way I want to see Sela back again is if I get to put my pistol in her face and pull the trigger like I did with Ha'skeevy
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    tacofangs wrote: »
    STO isn't canon, and neither are any of the books.
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  • darakossdarakoss Member Posts: 850 Arc User
    of course! New planet, new home. Wife by your side, children playing at your feet...and overhead fluttering in the breeze the flag of the Federation!
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