Doesn't usually take folks too long to explain how their temporally-orphaned cat/orion/mystery hybrid princess with superpowers/super-IQ was found by a faction-appropriate captain who took them as a pet/freed slave/companion which ultimately led to them getting their own command and companions.
Anyway, limit is 2000 characters (not counting new lines) or 1000 lines, whichever comes first.
I actually randomly click on characters standing around in social zones like esd or the first city and read bios. Some of them are actually well done and interesting.
It would actually be interesting if there was a randomized system to it instead of people typing stuff up. Most are simply blank. But if you didn't actually know what the bio was going to be, it'd be something to look forward to later on, as it could change over time.
I really wish we could limit bios to 140 characters or less for the flowing reasons:
Why? Is there any place you really have to read them? Yes, they show up in the player info, but you've probably clicked that for a special purpose. Check out what you were interested in, and close it.
(I do agree with your assessment of many bios in general though)
In fact, why even have bios? I assume they are for the owners' edification only.
Precisely, for the owners.
(For the record: I have 3 toons with bios, none is a stranded space chick. Not precisely Nobel prize winning literature, one full of clichés, one full of bad puns, one kinda works as a one-off joke)
My mother was an epohh and my father smelled of tulaberries
Yes, there is a limit as to how long the biography ingame can be.
As a side note - I don't know - making overly long public ingame biography is imo unnecessary. If you are a roleplayer, part of the fun is to find out stuff through the interaction with the other characters. Sure, having a basic 'outline', sort of 'widely-known & visually noticeable things' is all fine and good, but having overly long essays on the in-game field - I feel the lenght is fine as it is.
And nope, I won't go into how some people decided to utilize the biography field for... odd practices, not belonging into a game where minors are present.
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I have issue with how long or short people make their bios for their toon. I think if people And I'm not as petty as to find poor grammar or spelling something that needs weeding out, as if these people deserve less right to play the game than anyone else.
What some people put in their character bios is their own business, though if you think it's unsuitable then just report it.
maybe. but that's mostly just RPGers and those only use avatars for socializing, not really being interesting in the game itself.
Unlike the DPS hunters, who only use their stuff for the mechanic, not really being interested in the setting and thus Star Trek itself.
I "originate" from board gaming. And there is a huge distinction between "American style" and "European style" (often also called "German style") games and gamers. Basically, American style gamers are in for the story. The games have clunky mechanics, many aspects out of player control, unreliable playing time and very unfair starting settings. European gamers are in it for the mechanics. The games are dry as hell, have no story to speak of, and are mostly number crunching affairs for those who like a mental spreadsheet.
Actually, real life isn't that black and white. While some games are easily in one of the two categories, even good and successful ones, most games are somewhere in between, trying to get the best of both worlds. (Some also do make the mistakes of both categories)
And I suspect many players here are in a gray area, too. Not only "RPlers who after 5 years in game are still level 18, since they only hang around at Quark's" or "DPS hunters who compare epeens for a living". Many may lean towards one category but still find aspects of the other interesting. Role players who do care for being able to solo a Borg red alert. DPSlers who wouldn't be caught dead with a boff named "Attack Tac II", because that doesn't sound Romulan at all. I was once in contact with an RP fleet (decided not to join, since I am not a huge RP fan myself) that held regular STFs (as a concession to role playing it weren't always the same, and followed the order where applicable).
So who's to say who is playing the game correctly?
My mother was an epohh and my father smelled of tulaberries
How on earth does what someone put in their bio give any indication of how much they give to the community or game? And what does it mater if someone just wants to have a fancy story and sit round Quarks all day if they aren't bothering anyone else?
Seems like some people just want to enforce their own idea of how people should play the game on everyone. And they act like they have some sort of superior right to act in such a manner.
I say just let everyone do as they wish within the terms of service and if people are acting inappropriately they they should be reported.
How exactly does one 'spoil the fun for others' by writing a bio? No one forces you to read it and if there is a bio that goes against the rules, report it like lordsteve1 said.
No need to unnecessarily restrict others in their opportunities to express their characters, regardless of the (perceived lack of) quality. That's very subjective anyway.
If you don't want to be bothered by lengthy biographies, don't let them bother you.
I really wish we could limit bios to 140 characters or less for the flowing reasons:
1. I do not care about your toon enough to get barraged with walls of dry boring text. Few people can make a Trek bio worth reading and even fewer in this game.
2. Cliches. Too many horrible RP cliches.
3. I don't want to read paragraphs of bio just to find out they are ERP underage furry prostitites.
4. Less likely to judge based on poor educational background or limited communicative skills. If bios are short, less opportunity for poorly constructed sentences. It would be a great equalizer.
Bios should be short and simple so the playerbase can weed out undesirables based on content and language mechanics.
Simple, dont read them then. Now go back under the bridge troll.
In fact, why even have bios? I assume they are for the owners' edification only.
The following knowledge might be terrifying to know. So brace for getting your world view shaken, but better just not read on; players have been know to became mad, screaming, batshit crazy, for realizing the truth of it.
Simple, dont read them then. Now go back under the bridge troll.
Very interesting and original insult; can't wait to see what your bio is like!
To be clear: I don't think bios should be removed, but on the contrary, they should be a mandatory part of character creation. Everyone should have a bio, but it should be limited to 140 characters or less for the following reasons:
1. Easier to spot undesirables without reading paragraphs of drivel.
2. Removes lots of boring cliches: orphaned, sold into slavery/prostitution, youngest _____ to graduate/get promoted to/put in command of/etc. If people manage to fit these into 140 characters, my first point applies.
3. Better writing. Long-winded, wordy nonsense from wannabe writers (hacks) trying horribly to add some purple prose to bad writing would not be tolerated.
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I don't know what the limit is, but I'm glad that it's not limited to 140 characters. LOL
At the moment, most of my character bios are done up in a personnel dossier file format rather than attempting to write a novel.
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I'd imagine 99% of players never read anyone else's character bios. And even if (as @nabreeki wishes) they were mandatory and limited to x character, what's to stop some "undesirable" simply lying in their bio? It's not like they have to tell the truth or have a load of text telling the world what they are really all about is it?
And the thing I think is really pretty troubling is that certain people seem to be of the opinion that rather than just reporting those doing wrong and breaking rules, they should be allowed to watch us all as if they are some sort of secret police organisation. I really don't think having some sort of Stasi like organisation to keep watch over all the players like these players think they are part of is something that needs to be encouraged.
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Anyway, limit is 2000 characters (not counting new lines) or 1000 lines, whichever comes first.
In fact, why even have bios? I assume they are for the owners' edification only.
I didn't explain that very well...
Why? Is there any place you really have to read them? Yes, they show up in the player info, but you've probably clicked that for a special purpose. Check out what you were interested in, and close it.
(I do agree with your assessment of many bios in general though)
Precisely, for the owners.
(For the record: I have 3 toons with bios, none is a stranded space chick. Not precisely Nobel prize winning literature, one full of clichés, one full of bad puns, one kinda works as a one-off joke)
maybe. but that's mostly just RPGers and those only use avatars for socializing, not really being interesting in the game itself.
As a side note - I don't know - making overly long public ingame biography is imo unnecessary. If you are a roleplayer, part of the fun is to find out stuff through the interaction with the other characters. Sure, having a basic 'outline', sort of 'widely-known & visually noticeable things' is all fine and good, but having overly long essays on the in-game field - I feel the lenght is fine as it is.
And nope, I won't go into how some people decided to utilize the biography field for... odd practices, not belonging into a game where minors are present.
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And I'm not as petty as to find poor grammar or spelling something that needs weeding out, as if these people deserve less right to play the game than anyone else.
What some people put in their character bios is their own business, though if you think it's unsuitable then just report it.
Unlike the DPS hunters, who only use their stuff for the mechanic, not really being interested in the setting and thus Star Trek itself.
I "originate" from board gaming. And there is a huge distinction between "American style" and "European style" (often also called "German style") games and gamers. Basically, American style gamers are in for the story. The games have clunky mechanics, many aspects out of player control, unreliable playing time and very unfair starting settings. European gamers are in it for the mechanics. The games are dry as hell, have no story to speak of, and are mostly number crunching affairs for those who like a mental spreadsheet.
Actually, real life isn't that black and white. While some games are easily in one of the two categories, even good and successful ones, most games are somewhere in between, trying to get the best of both worlds. (Some also do make the mistakes of both categories)
And I suspect many players here are in a gray area, too. Not only "RPlers who after 5 years in game are still level 18, since they only hang around at Quark's" or "DPS hunters who compare epeens for a living". Many may lean towards one category but still find aspects of the other interesting. Role players who do care for being able to solo a Borg red alert. DPSlers who wouldn't be caught dead with a boff named "Attack Tac II", because that doesn't sound Romulan at all. I was once in contact with an RP fleet (decided not to join, since I am not a huge RP fan myself) that held regular STFs (as a concession to role playing it weren't always the same, and followed the order where applicable).
So who's to say who is playing the game correctly?
And what does it mater if someone just wants to have a fancy story and sit round Quarks all day if they aren't bothering anyone else?
Seems like some people just want to enforce their own idea of how people should play the game on everyone. And they act like they have some sort of superior right to act in such a manner.
I say just let everyone do as they wish within the terms of service and if people are acting inappropriately they they should be reported.
No need to unnecessarily restrict others in their opportunities to express their characters, regardless of the (perceived lack of) quality. That's very subjective anyway.
If you don't want to be bothered by lengthy biographies, don't let them bother you.
Simple, dont read them then. Now go back under the bridge troll.
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At the moment, most of my character bios are done up in a personnel dossier file format rather than attempting to write a novel.
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And even if (as @nabreeki wishes) they were mandatory and limited to x character, what's to stop some "undesirable" simply lying in their bio? It's not like they have to tell the truth or have a load of text telling the world what they are really all about is it?
And the thing I think is really pretty troubling is that certain people seem to be of the opinion that rather than just reporting those doing wrong and breaking rules, they should be allowed to watch us all as if they are some sort of secret police organisation. I really don't think having some sort of Stasi like organisation to keep watch over all the players like these players think they are part of is something that needs to be encouraged.
Perhaps, and yes, maybe I should have controlled myself more. But im not wrong.