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You may all officially hate me now... [promo! box report]

nikeixnikeix Member Posts: 3,972 Arc User
People talk about accounts having good or bad luck. We're gamers. We're superstitious that way.

When the Annorax R&D promo! resurfaced last year I thought "What the heck. It's a pretty good cash-to-lobi ratio if you buy four, so why not?"

I popped an Annorax on the third box. So I only got 30 lobi. Bummer. :tongue:

When the TOS T6 temporal connie packs had their run, again I thought, "Well it's still good lobi, and who knows, I might get monstrously lucky again..." Because that just the dumbest line of reasoning ever.

I popped a TOS ship pack on the third box.

So just now I polished off a few Arc quests, converting the credits to 1000 zeni. I bought the new infinity RnD quad pack as is my usual wont. Time to break the streak and stop worrying about them, right?

I didn't even get to three. I popped the ship pack on the second box this time. Now I'm left staring at the last two packs and wondering if I should crack them or sell them later. Tough call, right? :wink:

And I'm still out the 10 lobi. Soooo unfair! :tongue:

At least now I know my account doesn't always trigger it on the third try... FOR SCIENCE!

(I'm sure some of the folks here have plenty of other reasons to hate me and need no prompting, but even I have to admit, that kind of luck is surreal.)

Merry Christmas all!
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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User
    Haha.. nice.

    Congrats on your success.. may I suggest that you go out and buy 3 lottery tickets? :)
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  • potasssiumpotasssium Member Posts: 1,226 Arc User
    edited December 2016
    Haha.. nice.

    Congrats on your success.. may I suggest that you go out and buy 3 lottery tickets? :)

    Agreed and congrats. Now if you were in a D7 then I might be jealous.
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  • jade1280jade1280 Member Posts: 868 Arc User
    You can kiss my excess lobi :P
  • nikeixnikeix Member Posts: 3,972 Arc User
    azrael605 wrote: »
    Gratz, my luck is more sporadic but I've gotten quite a few ships over the years, nowadays I mainly just buy them from luckier guys like you ;).

    Thanks! That really is the better plan, but the first two times were so comical I had to buy-in on the third round. Guess I will have a captain flying an intel Sheshar! :hushed:

    (just did the math in another thread and I've opened around ~670 lockboxes from which I've received 3 grand prize ships -- so on that front my luck is decidedly average.)
    Congrats on your success.. may I suggest that you go out and buy 3 lottery tickets? :)

    Thank you :). And that is an EXCELENT battle strategy ;).
    potasssium wrote: »
    Agreed and congrats. Now if you were in a D7 then I might be jealous.

    Thanks :). Actually I haven't opened the TOS pack yet, so Schrodinger's Ship might still be a D7. I figured I'd hang on to it to trade for the Elachi ships I wanted. When the infinity packs came out I expected my still-boxed TOS ship to plummet in value and basically get locked into equivalency with the sheshar, but it would still be powerful trade bait. But now that I've pulled a Sheshar direct from the promo! boxes, I have to reexamine what I want to do with it. It is a literal embarrassment of riches :).

  • thunderfoot#5163 thunderfoot Member Posts: 4,545 Arc User
    Random chance is exactly what is advertised on the tin. Although it may favor one person in the short run, it will eventually even out. This being said, it does appear you seem to sit at the right hand of RNGesus. Am I jealous or do I hate you? Nope. In fact quite the opposite. Your good fortune has encouraged me to try my luck by opening more boxes.

    But like you, I am opening boxes for what I know is in them. Not hoping for the ship as so many do. Opened US$ 60.00 worth of boxes earlier this year and got the KT HCC on the fifth one. Rest of them had enough nice stuff in them I was able to sell it for good prices on the Exchange and kit her out with all KT weapons.

    So again, congrats on your good fortune. And I sincerely hope you are enjoying this game more because of it.
    A six year old boy and his starship. Living the dream.
  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,602 Arc User
    edited December 2016
    nikeix wrote: »
    People talk about accounts having good or bad luck. We're gamers. We're superstitious that way.

    When the Annorax R&D promo! resurfaced last year I thought "What the heck. It's a pretty good cash-to-lobi ratio if you buy four, so why not?"

    I popped an Annorax on the third box. So I only got 30 lobi. Bummer. :tongue:

    When the TOS T6 temporal connie packs had their run, again I thought, "Well it's still good lobi, and who knows, I might get monstrously lucky again..." Because that just the dumbest line of reasoning ever.

    I popped a TOS ship pack on the third box.

    So just now I polished off a few Arc quests, converting the credits to 1000 zeni. I bought the new infinity RnD quad pack as is my usual wont. Time to break the streak and stop worrying about them, right?

    I didn't even get to three. I popped the ship pack on the second box this time. Now I'm left staring at the last two packs and wondering if I should crack them or sell them later. Tough call, right? :wink:

    And I'm still out the 10 lobi. Soooo unfair! :tongue:

    At least now I know my account doesn't always trigger it on the third try... FOR SCIENCE!

    (I'm sure some of the folks here have plenty of other reasons to hate me and need no prompting, but even I have to admit, that kind of luck is surreal.)

    Merry Christmas all!

    I got 2 Konnies from 73 Boxes, and 1 Connie from 13 Boxes. I'm happy with whatever I get. End of the day, people gotta remember you're paying for a guaranteed prize, and you cannot really lose on these boxes. Yes the prize might be poor, but you still got something!
    "You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
  • saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 4,409 Arc User
    At least, the jealous people will take solace in knowing you have exhausted your quota of luck for 2016.



    Oh wait... :tongue:
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  • chastity1337chastity1337 Member Posts: 1,608 Arc User
    I have opened a total of 5 lockboxes since I rolled my first toon in February 2012.

    I just don't go for that kind of pig-in-a-poke gambling. Some games call them gachapons or packs or whatever, but they're an integral part of the P2W, err, sorry I meant F2P, business model.

    You know, there was a time when gamers believed in a level playing field, and considered that an integral part of good sportsmanship, which was highly valued.
  • thunderfoot#5163 thunderfoot Member Posts: 4,545 Arc User
    edited December 2016
    I have opened a total of 5 lockboxes since I rolled my first toon in February 2012.

    I just don't go for that kind of pig-in-a-poke gambling. Some games call them gachapons or packs or whatever, but they're an integral part of the P2W, err, sorry I meant F2P, business model.

    You know, there was a time when gamers believed in a level playing field, and considered that an integral part of good sportsmanship, which was highly valued.

    You know there was a time when gamers did not make pathetic attempts to look superior to everyone else by being damned annoying and considered congratulating a fellow player being an intregal part of that good sportsmanship you mentioned.

    All you've accomplished with your snarky comments is making yourself look like the southbound hatwearing end of a northbound donkey in front of everyone else. Instead of the 'better person' you so desperately want others to think you are.

    Apparently jealousy now comes in flavors other than just green.
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  • gonaliusgonalius Member Posts: 893 Arc User
    I've opened 5 or so lockboxes over the years, and picked up a Wells ship back pre-T6. I stopped opening them after that, when I realised I had no use for it - Or for the credits I would've got selling it. I only really do solo content, and the holiday ships are more than good enough for that. The ship is presumably still lurking in one of my characters banks.
  • gaevsmangaevsman Member Posts: 3,190 Arc User
    Great!, i had the same luck, with the Phoeniz Packs and this promo, with one T6 Light Cruiser at the first try... the wors part is that i wasn't interested in it!!, now i love that Little ship with its Exeter Skin, anyway, congrats, i'll love to get a sheshar, but i'm not greedy, if it comes, it comes.. so, congrats! (BTW it was at the third pack, odd)
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  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,602 Arc User
    I have opened a total of 5 lockboxes since I rolled my first toon in February 2012.

    I just don't go for that kind of pig-in-a-poke gambling. Some games call them gachapons or packs or whatever, but they're an integral part of the P2W, err, sorry I meant F2P, business model.

    You know, there was a time when gamers believed in a level playing field, and considered that an integral part of good sportsmanship, which was highly valued.

    P2W!? Please explain to the masses where P2W actually appears in the most generous F2P model ever!!
    "You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    At least, the jealous people will take solace in knowing you have exhausted your quota of luck for 2016.



    Oh wait... :tongue:

    more like all his luck for the next 20 yrs

    while I dont hate ya, I might jealously stab you in the eye multiple times before I can control myself :P
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  • sierra078sierra078 Member Posts: 340 Arc User
    nikeix wrote: »
    I didn't even get to three. I popped the ship pack on the second box this time. Now I'm left staring at the last two packs and wondering if I should crack them or sell them later. Tough call, right? :wink:

    If you don't want your boxes I'll take them. I opened 3 R&D boxes yesterday with no joy. I've got fleet refit phasers on the T6 fleet galaxy dread. If I don't get the T6 light cruiser I'm probably gonna just go for a Vengance in the Lobi store.

  • officerbatman81officerbatman81 Member Posts: 2,761 Arc User
    Congratulations @nikeix happy for you.

    I love hearing these success stories of not opening alot and getting jackpot. They're inspirational. Even though the odds are ridiculously astronomical from what people say its give hope to those like me who are only going to open a 4 pack.
    I'm waiting for my Dec stipend to get a 4pack, then thats it for me.
  • nikeixnikeix Member Posts: 3,972 Arc User
    I have opened a total of 5 lockboxes since I rolled my first toon in February 2012.

    I just don't go for that kind of pig-in-a-poke gambling. Some games call them gachapons or packs or whatever, but they're an integral part of the P2W, err, sorry I meant F2P, business model.

    You know, there was a time when gamers believed in a level playing field, and considered that an integral part of good sportsmanship, which was highly valued.

    I'm pretty sure I mentioned I paid exactly nothing for my Christmas day four RnD packs, right? If you manage your Arc launcher properly you should be "earning" about 22 cents a day and can cash out every $5. I essentially get as many "free zeni" per month as a lifetimer. A little more, actually.

    If the game had a thriving PvP environment I might let the fact it's absolutely a pay4advantage environment bother me (not that I consider the term a dirty vile thing to begin with). But STO's value to me is for what it is, a PvE sci-fi space and ground combat simulator and the only e-peen measuring I see a need for is against the scenarios themselves, not other players. My joy comes from the building of ships and the execution of their abilities in play. If Cryptic keeps the lights on by asking me to buy stuff individually, ok. I understand the deal and I choose to accept it (to varying degrees) going forward. And while you can make a big fuss about the initial faucet for some those additional tools being a random box, fact is the exchange is WELL POPULATED and if you want to buy something for in-game currency it is almost certainly there to be bought. If you want to spend some real money to gain in-game currency and then buy the non-random thing, you can do that too. Or you can -- eyes wide open about the odds and the entirety prize list -- buy the random boxy things. I didn't buy any of the RnD packs for (or even expecting) the ship. I bought them for the entirely NOT RANDOM lobi because $8 for 40 lobi is a decent deal even compared to regular lock boxes where you get prize AND lobi.

    People come on to report their sub-par results all the time. But I also think people need to hear that above average performance happens too. And above all, I'd like for the player base to have as clear and level an understanding of what the pay out tables actually mean, before make an informed decision going in.

    And while I may now joke "In my personal experience the Infinity RnD boxes have a 50/50 chance of dropping a ship token" which is absolutely true, I just couldn't keep a straight face for very long before I'd also have to admit "but my sample size is very, very small. Like, two."
  • nikeixnikeix Member Posts: 3,972 Arc User
    gaevsman wrote: »
    Great!, i had the same luck, with the Phoeniz Packs and this promo, with one T6 Light Cruiser at the first try... the wors part is that i wasn't interested in it!!, now i love that Little ship with its Exeter Skin, anyway, congrats, i'll love to get a sheshar, but i'm not greedy, if it comes, it comes.. so, congrats! (BTW it was at the third pack, odd)

    I failed magnificently on the Phoenix boxes :sweat_smile:. Around 140 attempts nothing better than tier 3. Fortunately my "oh please, please, please!" item was the crystalline energy torpedo, now cheerfully loaded on my main's main ship, and Antiproton-based Llaihr. The real unexpected wonder-choice of the list for me was the tier IV VSS Tanius admiralty card, as I'd only done that event to completion on three captains and one of my current captains hadn't even been made yet.

    I wouldn't have known what do with a Tier II ticket. Get a Voth ship, I guess. The best use I could think of for tier I ticket would be to get the T6 Breen ship I don't have access to and make one of my captains the designated "full Breen experience" captain with a full set of frozen consoles, etc. Probably my TOS Andorian. The idea of her commanding a ship where she could set the temperature to something reasonable appeals to my in-game logic ;).

    Still, I look forward to bleeding dilithium like a stuck pig the next time the Phoenix Box promotion comes around!
  • nikeixnikeix Member Posts: 3,972 Arc User
    while I dont hate ya, I might jealously stab you in the eye multiple times before I can control myself :P

    Seems fair. While I would defend myself, I wouldn't blame you for it ;).

  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    nikeix wrote: »
    azrael605 wrote: »
    Gratz, my luck is more sporadic but I've gotten quite a few ships over the years, nowadays I mainly just buy them from luckier guys like you ;).

    Thanks! That really is the better plan, but the first two times were so comical I had to buy-in on the third round. Guess I will have a captain flying an intel Sheshar! :hushed:

    (just did the math in another thread and I've opened around ~670 lockboxes from which I've received 3 grand prize ships -- so on that front my luck is decidedly average.)
    Congrats on your success.. may I suggest that you go out and buy 3 lottery tickets? :)

    Thank you :). And that is an EXCELENT battle strategy ;).
    potasssium wrote: »
    Agreed and congrats. Now if you were in a D7 then I might be jealous.

    Thanks :). Actually I haven't opened the TOS pack yet, so Schrodinger's Ship might still be a D7. I figured I'd hang on to it to trade for the Elachi ships I wanted. When the infinity packs came out I expected my still-boxed TOS ship to plummet in value and basically get locked into equivalency with the sheshar, but it would still be powerful trade bait. But now that I've pulled a Sheshar direct from the promo! boxes, I have to reexamine what I want to do with it. It is a literal embarrassment of riches :).
    I wish I had sold both my Sehsars. It's not my type of ship. If you haven't unpacked them yet, think hard about whether those EC you could get for them won't be more handy.
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  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    nikeix wrote: »
    I wouldn't have known what do with a Tier II ticket. Get a Voth ship, I guess. The best use I could think of for tier I ticket would be to get the T6 Breen ship
    simple, turn em into a pile of phoenix upgrades.. man those things did wonders for my TOSling's gear
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    tacofangs wrote: »
    STO isn't canon, and neither are any of the books.
  • berginsbergins Member Posts: 3,454 Arc User
    OP added to my Hate List. Check.
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  • thunderfoot#5163 thunderfoot Member Posts: 4,545 Arc User
    I don't hate him. But it may be difficult to like him for a bit. At least he isn't gloating too much. Is he gloating too much? I cannot really tell. And if he is gloating too much, are we supposed to hate him all the time? Or just specific times?
    A six year old boy and his starship. Living the dream.
  • saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 4,409 Arc User
    edited December 2016
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    Haha.. nice.

    Congrats on your success.. may I suggest that you go out and buy 3 lottery tickets? :)

    No, he needs a 4 pack. Don't mess the 4 pack. And it can't be 4 individually sold tickets, he needs to get one that comes in a 4 pack. Hey, if we are gonna be superstitious, might as well go all the way :p .
    But Four Is Death! Also, if you're a Starfleet officers meeting with Cardassians and see 4 lights somewhere, you really should run away.
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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,573 Arc User
    I got one Tier I that I converted to two Tier IIs. Got a Bulwark and JHAS.

    There was a bit of a blow up about four years ago in the LotRO forums that the Pseudo-random number generator seed was tied to a Character's internal database number. And because of that there were some Characters were luckier than others.

    I don't believe anything ever came of it.
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    l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
    That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
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  • nikeixnikeix Member Posts: 3,972 Arc User
    I don't hate him. But it may be difficult to like him for a bit. At least he isn't gloating too much. Is he gloating too much? I cannot really tell. And if he is gloating too much, are we supposed to hate him all the time? Or just specific times?

    Hopefully I'm not gloating too much :). This should ideally read less "look it me, I'm so much better than you" and more "look at this, cause its kinda weird and cool" :). I spend a lot of time trying to help out over in the test boards and if a Dev mysteriously put a little gold star on my account that would be awesome, but it's almost certainly not true.

    Really, other people winning is something I look forward to. Happy players improve my gameplay experience. However, if we do need specific times for the hate, lets go with Mondays. There's plenty of hate to go around on Mondays. I don't mind soaking up a little of it :smirk:.

    And to those who asked or wished me well: yes, I think having a Sheshar will increase my enjoyment of the game :). It was far and away the most expensive of my remaining dream ships. I'd like to completely trick one out with all three Elachi ship consoles and the three-part elachi lobi store set. Then fly that big bloated beast around with haywire orbs everywhere and watch my enemies burn.

    After that I just need the Undine ship pair and I'll have played pretty much every species I was hoping to experience when I came back to the game just over a year ago :). (I have a Tarantula, but it's such a glorious beast right out of the box I haven't gone crazy chasing the rest of the crystal-spider's racial consoles...)

    And the good news for some is now that I have a Sheshar, it means I'll probably put the T6 TOS box up for sale soon, because I know there's other people who want that ship experience more than they want a billion-something in Ec, while I want the credits more than the ship. Win-win.
  • thunderfoot#5163 thunderfoot Member Posts: 4,545 Arc User
    I was kidding in that post. Sorry for leaving out the [j/k] and [/j/k]
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  • saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 4,409 Arc User
    edited December 2016
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    Haha.. nice.

    Congrats on your success.. may I suggest that you go out and buy 3 lottery tickets? :)

    No, he needs a 4 pack. Don't mess the 4 pack. And it can't be 4 individually sold tickets, he needs to get one that comes in a 4 pack. Hey, if we are gonna be superstitious, might as well go all the way :p .
    But Four Is Death! Also, if you're a Starfleet officers meeting with Cardassians and see 4 lights somewhere, you really should run away.

    Only if you are chinese...or japanese...or asian in general I suppose. And there were 5 lights there...not 4. You see the reflection of the 5th in one scene. So really you should be running away at 5 lights. 4 is your friend. I mean what does shift 4 give you? $...and who doesn't like money. Come on, embrace the full blown superstition nonsense.
    Well, there is Star Trek V too, to show how 5 is an horrible number. :tongue:

    Six is quite Sinister too, especially in comics and more so at Marvel.
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