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staq16staq16 Member Posts: 1,181 Arc User
https://www.reddit.com/r/sto/comments/5i7xl3/new_nx_class_model_on_tribble/

Note the last photos with lighting for the refit secondary hull.

Gub it. The *one* Fed ship I'd go promo pack prices over, and here it is. I just hope there's no concurrent Klingon ship, I don't think my wallet would take it....
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  • admrenlarreckadmrenlarreck Member Posts: 2,041 Arc User
    I want as T6!
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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    Stats, please! :)
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  • captainbmoneycaptainbmoney Member Posts: 1,323 Arc User
    I've got faith of the heart that this will be another R&D promo.

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  • duncanidaho11duncanidaho11 Member Posts: 7,980 Arc User
    edited December 2016
    staq16 wrote: »
    Note the last photos with lighting for the refit secondary hull.

    Look closer, there's no hull there (note the stars). There simply appears to be a few windows placed underneath the ship. Could this be a prelude to a secondary hull configuration? (not yet available but what the standard type 04 windows are glitched to wrap around?) Possibly, the floating windows seem to be in the right places, but it's worth noting that when the sovy was being updated on tribble some hull options had this same problem (older window sets floating below the hull).

    I wouldn't necessarily take it as confirmation that the problematic refit-NX (CBS doesn't own it) is coming to STO.
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  • chispin55chispin55 Member Posts: 80 Arc User
    Have a pinch of this on standby....
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  • dragonseye1138dragonseye1138 Member Posts: 91 Arc User
    edited December 2016
    I wouldn't necessarily take it as confirmation that the problematic refit-NX (CBS doesn't own it) is coming to STO.

    That's true. Doug Drexler designed the NX-01 and the NX-01 refit, and cryptic has already worked with the designers of ship's that are not strictly speaking canon (Mark Rademaker on the Vesta anyone?), so it's not outside the realm of possibility that the NX refit may be coming to STO. Doug Drexler was severely disappointed that the NX refit never made it on screen and I can see him agreeing to giver her new life in the game.

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  • staq16staq16 Member Posts: 1,181 Arc User
    Well, the NX-refit is in use by Pocket Books in their Rise of the Federation series, while Eaglemoss got the rights to do a model, and it's appeared in the "ships of the line" calendars.

    So it's about as official as you get without being onscreen, and it doesn't look like Drexler is stingy with whatever rights he has to it.
    reyan01 wrote: »
    *Sigh* So it would seem that there is a strong possibility that even a ship based on an ancient design is more T6 worthy than the Nova class.....

    I think the truth - rightly or wrongly - is that more people want to fly an endgame NX than an endgame Nova. Or perhaps, there are more people (muggins here included) who'd pay lockbox / promo prices to do so.

    And ironically, the NXs fit in far better with their 25C counterparts than the 23C ships do. Which was one of the things the haters didn't like in the first place...
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    What has been the pattern with the introduction of a new Lockbox? That is correct, we get a week to 10 days of a what? Correct again, an Infinity Lockbox.

    What do you think comes next for an R&D Promotion in an Infinity R&D Promotion that lasts a month? A new single/Faction Choice ship R&D Promotion.

    I am left wondering what that ship may be.

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  • jtoney3448jtoney3448 Member Posts: 642 Arc User
    edited December 2016
    Enterprise series KDF bop/raptor we saw, and romulan bop/drone ship we saw. The KDF raptor/Rom Drone + NX class would work as a light escort pack.
  • zerokillcf2011zerokillcf2011 Member Posts: 545 Arc User
    I would buy this for sure if it gains the secondary hull. Would love another canon-ish ship to fly. (My main is T6 Fleet Fed Dred....so hense the -ish)
  • staq16staq16 Member Posts: 1,181 Arc User
    Hmm, I hadn't considered the playable Rom Drone ship. Given that the T'varo (22C BoP) is already a T6 C-store ship, I guess there aren't any other screen-derived options. They could repeat the Kelvin Timeline approach and create an original Romulan design; the Romulan War novels feature dreadnought-sized carriers which launch sublight warbirds, neatly bridging the logical gaps to the "impulse only" BoP in TOS and the gargantuan ships of the TNG era.

    Klink-side, the obvious candidates are the D5 Battlecruiser and 22C Bird of Prey. I struggle to see how they'd distinguish the 22C BoP from the D4X; probably only a different specialisation, I guess, but that was enough for the two Constitution classes. The D5 turned up in a "refit" form as a Raptor for AoY (IMO, a brilliant piece of bridging) so they could do a playable D5 Raptor.
  • zerokillcf2011zerokillcf2011 Member Posts: 545 Arc User
    Could use the Gorn cruiser we saw in the AOY missions for the Klinks? Or the D9 from the Battle of Caleb IV?
  • avoozuulavoozuul Member Posts: 3,215 Arc User
    I still want a T6 Oberth.
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  • staq16staq16 Member Posts: 1,181 Arc User
    Could use the Gorn cruiser we saw in the AOY missions for the Klinks? Or the D9 from the Battle of Caleb IV?

    Well, possibly, but it wouldn't really fit thematically. We're looking at things which could be a KDF / Rom counterpart to the NX (and its refit); that really means 22C designs, whether onscreen or Cryptic / Pocket Books ones. The D5 would fit much better (and canonically was in-service until near Kirk's era; Kor mentioned commanding one).

    The Ddraig is very obviously a 23C design with the plain lines of that era.
  • alcyoneserenealcyoneserene Member Posts: 2,414 Arc User
    My zen is ready for a T6 Nova cause I don't have a T5 of it, and as much as I like the Vestas wouldn't be excited for another 3-pack T6 Vestas to re-buy all over again since re-buying the T6 Scimitar Bundle after the T5 Bundle, Arbiter/Fleet Arbiter after Avenger/Fleet Avenger, T5 Odyssey bundle after buying the T5 Ops Odyssey, T5 MVAE just for a console for a T6 MVAE, buy buy buy to replace (obsolete, who flies the T5-U variant when you bought its T6) what was just bought, etc.

    Single obsolete consoles like the 3-pack T5 Scimitar ones with a worthless thalaron pulse 3-piece bonus is essentially a $60 USD (or $90 if bought separately) for 3 active abilities whose only use is leveling a L50 alt or at best role-play is a very poor form of marketing.

    I know, Delta Rising is the best expansion ever and the players love it and T6 bug ship capabilities is old news, but it still happened, still left a giant void in player numbers which is bad for everyone, empty fleet rosters and friends lists, etc, and still has left a real bitter taste to all of STO and an aversion to re-buying anything and feeding the power creep.

    The NX is quite nice reminder of ENT, already have the model from a giveaway, but I wouldn't care to buying it at T6 much less lockbox/lobi/promo.
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  • lnbladelnblade Member Posts: 410 Arc User
    I've got faith of the heart that this will be another R&D promo.
    Perhaps, but it would be a huge kick in the teeth to the T6 Constitution fans if it were made a Zen ship. And CBS/Cryptic loves kicking Constitution fans in the teeth.
    reyan01 wrote: »
    *Sigh* So it would seem that there is a strong possibility that even a ship based on an ancient design is more T6 worthy than the Nova class.....
    Hey, I'm right there with you on wanting a T6 Nova. I originally planned on making that my main ship, back when the game was still in development and before they'd released details on how ship tiers and rank would work
  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,507 Arc User
    Personally I hope this is just an update to the NX. If it's T6 however then it's just showing once again that there is zero design sense in Cryptic's future. The T6 Connie is the most OP ship for it's size, and if 8 Beams almost drown out the Connie, just think what it will look like on an NX at it's current size! There's no way small ships should/would match the firepower of Dreadnoughts many times their size!
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  • smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,668 Arc User
    leemwatson wrote: »
    Personally I hope this is just an update to the NX. If it's T6 however then it's just showing once again that there is zero design sense in Cryptic's future. The T6 Connie is the most OP ship for it's size, and if 8 Beams almost drown out the Connie, just think what it will look like on an NX at it's current size! There's no way small ships should/would match the firepower of Dreadnoughts many times their size!

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  • smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,668 Arc User
    avoozuul wrote: »
    I still want a T6 Oberth.

    Me, too :D
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  • saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 4,404 Arc User
    edited December 2016
    I just checked and it's both an update of the model and a new unique NX material. The windows showing under it happen with two window option out of 5.
    Also, the Bussard collectors now spin. However, I've watched some clips of ENT, and in the show they didn't seem to do so, but I may just have been unlucky in finding a proper clip of them.
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  • smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,668 Arc User
    I just checked and it's both an update of the model and a new unique NX material. The windows showing under it happen with two window option out of 5.
    Also, the Bussard collectors now spin. However, I've watched some clips of ENT, and in the show they didn't seem to spin, but I may just have been unlucky to find a proper clip of them.

    They did not spin, at most, they just glowed with some red swirls...I think.

    Maybe this will be of the upgraded NX Doug wanted to make for later seasons.
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  • binebanebinebane Member Posts: 557 Arc User
    i want delta! whas delta class or is delta just nickname? T7 if i may please.
  • sorceror01sorceror01 Member Posts: 1,042 Arc User
    Hrm, if I remember correctly, wasn't the actress that played the captain of the NX-02 Columbia signed on for VO work for STO a while back?

    This could simply be a precluding touch up to the model in preparation for whatever content that needs a new NX model.
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  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,507 Arc User
    sorceror01 wrote: »
    Hrm, if I remember correctly, wasn't the actress that played the captain of the NX-02 Columbia signed on for VO work for STO a while back?

    This could simply be a precluding touch up to the model in preparation for whatever content that needs a new NX model.

    My thinking also. It's most likely a 'Yesterday's War' episode involving Enterprise. I stand by what I said earlier. Current meta is reducing differences in actual ship performance. There's less emphasis on actual Sci,Tac and Eng roles than compared to T5 and earlier, meaning that Space combat is purely becoming Arcade-like than Canon-like.
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  • zerokillcf2011zerokillcf2011 Member Posts: 545 Arc User
    That's because a huge chunk of the "Traditional" players (healer, tank, damage dealer) ditched the game after Delta Rising. A few of us (obviously) are still on, but the dynamics changed. Proof is in the public PVE ques being dead, the power creep, and the "equality factor" hitting across board (thinking the range benefit NERF put on beams, and the buff applied to cannons recently for example) But that's how MMORPG's develop. STO can still be played by a "traditional" method of play, but it is no longer designed that way. If you are a healer going into a pug healing team members but not doing DPS your rewards will be minimal or not existent. There is no real way to draw agro anymore for a tank, so it's not as easy to play that role. I remember when cruiser commands were added, that "Attract Fire" actually guaranteed you were pulling agro and it (along with the other cruiser commands) actually made Engineers play as old school tanks again. Then sci ships got secondary deflectors, skill trees were added, and it evolved. It happens.
  • tobiashirttobiashirt Member Posts: 630 Arc User
    leemwatson wrote: »
    sorceror01 wrote: »
    Hrm, if I remember correctly, wasn't the actress that played the captain of the NX-02 Columbia signed on for VO work for STO a while back?

    This could simply be a precluding touch up to the model in preparation for whatever content that needs a new NX model.

    My thinking also. It's most likely a 'Yesterday's War' episode involving Enterprise. I stand by what I said earlier. Current meta is reducing differences in actual ship performance. There's less emphasis on actual Sci,Tac and Eng roles than compared to T5 and earlier, meaning that Space combat is purely becoming Arcade-like than Canon-like.

    Between mk14 gold everything and a proliferation of universal seats, just about any build can be put on any ship and pump out more than enough damage to deal with anything in pve. The only times nowadays I fell truly 'alive' are when I play a drain ship or a torp bomber, the older archetypes that aren't about raw damage.
  • stobg2015stobg2015 Member Posts: 800 Arc User
    leemwatson wrote: »
    Personally I hope this is just an update to the NX. If it's T6 however then it's just showing once again that there is zero design sense in Cryptic's future. The T6 Connie is the most OP ship for it's size, and if 8 Beams almost drown out the Connie, just think what it will look like on an NX at it's current size! There's no way small ships should/would match the firepower of Dreadnoughts many times their size!

    If there's anything the future storylines teach us, it's that size doesn't matter. Look at the power of Kal Dano's timeship.

    So yes, highly advanced small ships can match or exceed the firepower of older, less advanced dreadnoughts.
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  • zerokillcf2011zerokillcf2011 Member Posts: 545 Arc User
    edited December 2016
    tobiashirt wrote: »
    leemwatson wrote: »
    sorceror01 wrote: »
    Hrm, if I remember correctly, wasn't the actress that played the captain of the NX-02 Columbia signed on for VO work for STO a while back?

    This could simply be a precluding touch up to the model in preparation for whatever content that needs a new NX model.

    My thinking also. It's most likely a 'Yesterday's War' episode involving Enterprise. I stand by what I said earlier. Current meta is reducing differences in actual ship performance. There's less emphasis on actual Sci,Tac and Eng roles than compared to T5 and earlier, meaning that Space combat is purely becoming Arcade-like than Canon-like.

    Between mk14 gold everything and a proliferation of universal seats, just about any build can be put on any ship and pump out more than enough damage to deal with anything in pve. The only times nowadays I fell truly 'alive' are when I play a drain ship or a torp bomber, the older archetypes that aren't about raw damage.

    That's why I switched over to canon builds on canon ships. Not necessarily career matched ships (i.e. my tactical captain LOVES his new T6 Nebula, and I have a sci alt that enjoys a Fleet T6 Gal-X) But also limits Feds to phasers and photon/quantum. My Klingons to disruptor and photon, and my Romulans to disruptors and plasma torps. Adds several unique challenges as the canon ships traditionally are NOT the best in their class by a long shot. (T6 Defiant, looking at you)
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