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Infinity R&D Pack Promotion

ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,569 Arc User
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Looks like we are getting the Infinity concept for R&D Pack Promotions as well.

http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/10292533-infinity-r&d-pack-promotion
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    lucho80lucho80 Member Posts: 6,600 Bug Hunter
    I feel like they are bombarding us with promotions at this point. The great dilithium destruction event of December 2016.
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    ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,569 Arc User
    All we need now is a Lobi Store sale. :)

    They figure people must have picked up a lot of Zen at the lower prices in anticipation of buying back Dilithium when the Exchange goes back into the 400s. So they will just give you something else to spend that Zen on now and not wait until later.
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    jaguarskxjaguarskx Member Posts: 5,945 Arc User
    At the moment I am all tapped out so I will not be participating in this particular promotion. I don't really care about getting any of the promo ships myself. But in the past, I purchased them to be sold them on the Exchange.
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    ash352ash352 Member Posts: 235 Arc User
    Well it seems like they're trying to give out all the things people have been wanting this month. Everyone wanting a second chance at the Temporal Light Cruiser now get it so that should help. Funny enough I traded for an Intel Sheshar 2 days ago so I don't really want anything from this pack but it's good for everyone that does. I might buy one 4 pack just to see if I can get an Annorax for fun but other than that nothing really here for me, but hopefully everyone else who wants something can get it.
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    ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,569 Arc User
    Probably after Phoenix ends after Thursday's Maintenance.
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    daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    One would think that adding the START & STOP dates for a promotion would be included in the initial announcement.

    smh
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    ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,569 Arc User
    Well they were pretty clear it was for a limited time. So you need specifics on when that limited time actually is? Forum posters here are just too demanding. :)

    So does this portend that there will be a new promotion in the future as in the past, just the new guy on the block, or will they just add stuff to the Infinity and use that from now on.
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    warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited December 2016
    oops thinking of wrong thing, nvm.
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    ufpterrellufpterrell Member Posts: 736 Arc User
    I'm glad people will have another shot at the TOS Connie, but seriously Cryptic. It belongs in the bloody C-Store, I can deal with alien ships being in your gamble boxes but not playable factions it's more than a little bit of a TRIBBLE take. It's not like I can even take advantage of this because it's possibly the worst time of year to put something as desirable as the TOS Connie. Just before xmas after people have already spent most of their months wages on shopping for gifts for others and the odd personal purchase from black friday sales. Talk about a misfire.
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    leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,345 Arc User
    edited December 2016
    ufpterrell wrote: »
    I'm glad people will have another shot at the TOS Connie, but seriously Cryptic. It belongs in the bloody C-Store, I can deal with alien ships being in your gamble boxes but not playable factions it's more than a little bit of a **** take. It's not like I can even take advantage of this because it's possibly the worst time of year to put something as desirable as the TOS Connie. Just before xmas after people have already spent most of their months wages on shopping for gifts for others and the odd personal purchase from black friday sales. Talk about a misfire.

    Actually I think it was more of a p-take that they made it a T6 in the first place! Yes, I do have it, and yes it's so OP for it's size (I have the Konnie too) it's just not funny! Cryptic need to rebalance this game something cronic!
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    ash352ash352 Member Posts: 235 Arc User
    ltminns wrote: »
    So does this portend that there will be a new promotion in the future as in the past, just the new guy on the block, or will they just add stuff to the Infinity and use that from now on.

    Probably will follow the lockbox idea. They'll introduce a new one at one point in the year, likely summer now, and then in winter introduce it into a "infinity" pack in order to drive sales for people who missed the summer version. It keeps the supply limited enough but making it so that people don't have to spend an arm and a leg to get something they missed out on if they can just wait 6ish months. That seems to bring the most balanced way to handle it since you have the people getting immediately when it's new and then people catching up later on when more people are playing for the winter/anniversary time frame to then spend after seeing someone flying around in said ship that they might want.

    ufpterrell wrote: »
    I'm glad people will have another shot at the TOS Connie, but seriously Cryptic. It belongs in the bloody C-Store, I can deal with alien ships being in your gamble boxes but not playable factions it's more than a little bit of a **** take. It's not like I can even take advantage of this because it's possibly the worst time of year to put something as desirable as the TOS Connie. Just before xmas after people have already spent most of their months wages on shopping for gifts for others and the odd personal purchase from black friday sales. Talk about a misfire.

    And since they're doing it again that means they'll most likely KEEP doing the promo over time. Just because you didn't get it now because you can't afford to gamble just means save up and buy it off of someone the next time it comes around. I also don't like the fact they stuck these in a gamble pack but it makes sense from a financial point of view even if it feels rotten. Things like this keeps the game free for people who don't want to pay anything and just do Dil -> Zen, regardless of if the perception is bad in terms of what's being offered.
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    fiberteksyfirfiberteksyfir Member Posts: 1,207 Arc User
    R&D Boxit!! Knew this was gonna show up eventually based on the recent run of things :)
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    discojerdiscojer Member Posts: 533 Arc User
    I really don't get the complaints about the size. It's bigger than the 26th century temporal ships (which can also use 23rd century skins if you own the 23rd century counterpart).
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    drakethewhitedrakethewhite Member Posts: 1,240 Arc User
    discojer wrote: »
    I really don't get the complaints about the size. It's bigger than the 26th century temporal ships (which can also use 23rd century skins if you own the 23rd century counterpart).

    More to the point, Defiant already flatly proved that size <> power for the franchise.

    But people will seize any reason to whine about something.
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    boachevboachev Member Posts: 131 Arc User
    Between Black Friday, Winter, and Phoenix... I feel like STO-wise I'm tapped on time and resources.

    And it's a shame, because I *really* want that T6 T'Liss. The Romulan Bird of Prey is one of my all time favorite ships in all of Sci-Fi, and having it as an option for my Romulan captain? That sounds like heaven.

    But as a person who only hopped back on a few months ago (after years away) and doesn't have time to play every single day, I have to think there's little chance of me getting that BoP anytime soon. I have probably only around ~11million EC spread across my two main characters, my dilithium is tapped thanks to the Phoenix Boxes and me being stupid on Black Friday, and Black Friday still managed to drain a substantial chunk of my ZEN.

    Guess once they hit the market I'll re-examine the situation, but sadly it may just be out of my reach for now. Eh, still got a Voth Bulwark and I'm having a blast in the Winter Wonderland! If I can get my T'Liss, then OMG YES! If not? I'll still have plenty of fun.


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    potasssiumpotasssium Member Posts: 1,226 Arc User
    I bought my intel She'shar when it first came out, wouldn't mind a D7, but not at all interested in chasing one done.
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    crypticarmsmancrypticarmsman Member Posts: 4,113 Arc User
    daveyny wrote: »
    One would think that adding the START & STOP dates for a promotion would be included in the initial announcement.

    smh

    You're asking too much of Cryptic marketing - they want us to guess and be surprised. ;)
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    drakethewhitedrakethewhite Member Posts: 1,240 Arc User
    daveyny wrote: »
    One would think that adding the START & STOP dates for a promotion would be included in the initial announcement.

    smh

    It's there now but wasn't when I first looked at the post. They've been very lazy about attaching dates to things of late.
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    drakethewhitedrakethewhite Member Posts: 1,240 Arc User
    I view this a great news with it coming so soon on the heels of the first Connie Promotion. This may push the price down out of the Grey Market and onto the Exchange where it belongs.

    I'll pick up one or two then.
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    salazarrazesalazarraze Member Posts: 3,794 Arc User
    I wonder what the pattern will be from now on. Perhaps we'll get one new promo ship per year with the other 3 month cycles being infinity promo packs?
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    ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,569 Arc User
    Hopefully, the new stuff won't be in the Doff Packs and the 'older' in the R&D Infinity.

    I'm not sure if directly related to this announcement but it looks as if the Dilitium Exchange is up about 50 from the lows yesterday.
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    warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    salazarraze wrote: »
    I wonder what the pattern will be from now on. Perhaps we'll get one new promo ship per year with the other 3 month cycles being infinity promo packs?

    The promo ships have never had any consistent pattern, I wouldn't expect one to be established now.
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    trekpuppytrekpuppy Member Posts: 446 Arc User
    And dilex recoils to 318 and rising ;)
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    ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,569 Arc User
    edited December 2016
    I already see two Annorax's on the Exchange in the 700's. There is also a Strike Ship there too in the 700s. None of the others have shown up yet.
    'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
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    That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
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    ufpterrellufpterrell Member Posts: 736 Arc User
    To be people reminded us of "well the game has to be paid for somehow" yeah I realise Cryptic are a business, but putting something like a Constitution which is ALREADY in the game as a T1 ship shouldn't be then put in as possibly the most exclusive and most expensive ship with T6 status slapped on it. Yeah I imagine they make a bucket load of cash from it, but would they really not earn as much money by putting it in the C-Store and having many more of them sold? If it's brokenly OP then it should be toned down a bit, I love my Ranger... but I wanted a T6 Connie...

    Some will say "oh you're so me me me". Let's think about it though, TNG fans you want to fly the hero ships you love? Go get an Archon or Andromeda and put the Galaxy and Sovereign skin on it. Love DS9 or Voyager? Sure, go ahead and play the ship you love from your personal favourite show. TOS fans? Haha, go suck on it... or prepare to pay out a few hundred quid or more with a chance to get nothing.

    Does this seem like a fair way to treat your customers? All it does it give TOS fans a kick in the teeth and alienate them from the rest of the player base. It's also not good business practice, you don't secure the long term success of your product by alienating a chunk of your customer base with shady tactics such as this.

    To everyone who can afford to throw enough money at this to get one of the T6 TOS ships, power to you and I hope you enjoy those ships. I'd personally love to get all of them since I adore the retro aesthetics from TOS. Me personally, I won't be able to do it... which really saddens me in a way. Us TOS fans waited for years and years with people screaming it would never happen. We got AOY, which I love and it was a great step in the right direction but then Cryptic delivered a virtual kick in the balls with this promotion. That's how it feels to me anyway.
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    salazarrazesalazarraze Member Posts: 3,794 Arc User
    edited December 2016
    warpangel wrote: »
    salazarraze wrote: »
    I wonder what the pattern will be from now on. Perhaps we'll get one new promo ship per year with the other 3 month cycles being infinity promo packs?

    The promo ships have never had any consistent pattern, I wouldn't expect one to be established now.
    Depends on what you mean by consistent. Since I started playing in 2013, promo packs have consistently come out around the same time every year.

    At first, there was only the T5 JHAS which was rereleased 4 times in a calendar year. Then there was the one time (I think) Voth Bulwark. Then more T5 bugships. Then the Sheshar. Then the Sheshar rotated with the T6 JHAS. Then the Annorax was released and all three rotated for a year. Then the TOS ships were released. And now this.

    I think that they will want to maintain consistency in the sense that they will still have 4 promos a year. But with more and more ships (and likely future ones), they would have needed some kind of infinity pack to ensure that all ships are routinely released. Plus, the infinity promo is a good decision because would ANOTHER Sheshar only promo really generate the same level of sales?

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    chispin55chispin55 Member Posts: 80 Arc User
    edited December 2016
    Will the ships in these infinity promo packs be tradeable, or will they be character bound?
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