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Console promo bias toward the Federation (Starfleet)

oliviaclaireoliviaclaire Member Posts: 158 Arc User
As it was advertised on the official Star Trek website, Star Trek Online Console Exclusives:

Players on the Xbox One console version of STO will receive a free Tier 1 Blockade Runner Escort Steamrunner-class Starship. On the PlayStation 4 console version, players will receive a free Tier 1 Andorian Light Escort. Note that these items will be available for free for two weeks after launch.

PlayStation Plus users will also receive a free Wrath of Khan Starfleet Uniform.

Only the Federation (Starfleet) players were able to receive the free promo ships on their respective consoles.

On October 27th, they published their console infographic with the faction statistics included. Did they still expect people to believe that it wasn't affected by the promo bias? This is proof that they have been deliberately undermining Klingons to try to force the Federation (Starfleet) on everyone.

There's also a myth that the console players would know nothing about the game to be biased toward a particular faction. Yet, this myth is easily debunked by looking at the GameFAQs' XBOX ONE forum posts like this:

klingons have been getting the short end of the stick since the game came out 6 years ago

Looks like there are console gamers who have been perfectly aware of the faction situation after all. That's because there's something called reputation, built from publicly accessible websites, user reviews and forum posts.

Quod erat demonstrandum. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ppt8OWaHg5c
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  • nekofury86nekofury86 Member Posts: 181 Arc User
    edited November 2016
    Because they ARE Federation/Starfleet ships. PWE/Cryptic is VERY bias. Federation is by far the most favored faction by the devs, but that is because it is easily 15:1 favored by the players. If you were on PC and went to KDF homeworld you might see 10-20 players in space, go to Federation homeworld and you'd see 80-100 players in space. There will always be more players on the Federation side, thus more ships, story and overall content in favor of the Federation side, it is supposed to be "us" afterall.

    I certainly wouldn't say they're forcing Feds on anyone. When I first started I made a fed toon because I loved Star Trek Enterprise and bought the ship, later on that character, bought another, and another. Eventually I had one for every rank, further on I bought more. Everytime I tried making a different faction character, it's like why would I make one, all my costumes, ships and everything else is already federation. So now I make nothing but Federation toons and a few Federation aligned Romulans (best faction), which you can use those ships with btw..... or does the pathetic console not have Romulans? idk, idc.
  • jade1280jade1280 Member Posts: 868 Arc User
    This entire game is biased towards starfleet it is insulting to say the least and more people should be outraged that the Klingons dont get equal representation.
  • nekofury86nekofury86 Member Posts: 181 Arc User
    jade1280 wrote: »
    This entire game is biased towards starfleet it is insulting to say the least and more people should be outraged that the Klingons dont get equal representation.

    Why bust out content for a faction that less than 10% of the player base use? One could argue that lack of content is the reason, but I doubt it. Klingons suck, Starfleet Rulez.
  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,557 Arc User
    nekofury86 wrote: »
    PWE/Cryptic is VERY bias.

    A slight correction. Star Trek is VERY biased. The only Klingon main characters we have are Worf and B'Elanna. One was raised by humans and entered Starfleet Academy while the other is a half-human and entered Starfleet Academy.
    nekofury86 wrote: »
    jade1280 wrote: »
    This entire game is biased towards starfleet it is insulting to say the least and more people should be outraged that the Klingons dont get equal representation.

    Why bust out content for a faction that less than 10% of the player base use? One could argue that lack of content is the reason, but I doubt it. Klingons suck, Starfleet Rulez.

    It is more like 20% for Klingons and 12% for Romulans according to the recent Console Infographic. The lack of content could be a reason for the PC, but it is certainly not the reason for the console considering how much content there is now for each faction and Klingons and Romulans on the console didn't have to suffer from a content drought for the first few years.
  • byozuma#0956 byozuma Member Posts: 502 Arc User
    Still doesn't really change one simple, overriding fact. There has never been a Star Trek from the angle of the 'enemy'. It's almost always been the Federation through the eyes of the crew of the Enterprise of the day. There's only been two series that strayed from this, Voyager and Deep Space Nine, and those weren't terribly well received even though they had fairly long runs. Everyone wants to be the badass Federation captain that saves the galaxy, noone wants to be the ones that the galaxy needs saving from.
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  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,557 Arc User
    Still doesn't really change one simple, overriding fact. There has never been a Star Trek from the angle of the 'enemy'. It's almost always been the Federation through the eyes of the crew of the Enterprise of the day. There's only been two series that strayed from this, Voyager and Deep Space Nine, and those weren't terribly well received even though they had fairly long runs. Everyone wants to be the badass Federation captain that saves the galaxy, noone wants to be the ones that the galaxy needs saving from.

    There is the possibility that Star Trek Discovery will partially focus on an enemy crew since it is supposed to feature new crews instead of a new crew. So maybe have the main Starfleet crews for most of the episodes and have a couple of episodes that focus only on an enemy crew.
  • saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 4,409 Arc User
    edited November 2016
    You're gonna start a thread about that every week, aren't you, Olivia?
    #TASforSTO
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,016 Arc User
    You're gonna start a thread about that every week, aren't you, Olivia?

    I like how the OP always writes as if they'd be uncovering some well hidden, sinister conspiracy, whistle blowing for the unaware community pig-2.gif​​
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  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,602 Arc User
    *Arms Wet Kipper Gun*
    "You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
  • talonxvtalonxv Member Posts: 4,257 Arc User
    Because PWE caters to what people mostly play?

    Amazing how that works right?

    OP, go find a new hobby, seriously stop eating the Tin foil.
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  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    You know @crashdragon may be certifiably insane, with his posts ranging from nonsensical to non-sequiturs, but at least he's funny. @oliviaclaire however has a one track mind of conspiracies, that are, to be honest, kinda' dull.​​
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  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    artan42 wrote: »
    kinda' dull.​​

    Yup. Dull. And usually filled with copy pasta. I sincerely hope Olivia starts a new obsession, such as whining about how immobile Bastion is in Overwatch, and how that's a dev conspiracy. And we can get back to Star Trek!

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  • redeyedravenredeyedraven Member Posts: 1,297 Arc User
    artan42 wrote: »
    kinda' dull.​​

    Yup. Dull. And usually filled with copy pasta. I sincerely hope Olivia starts a new obsession, such as whining about how immobile Bastion is in Overwatch, and how that's a dev conspiracy. And we can get back to Star Trek!

    So Overwatch will form a new taskforce called Oliviawatch?
  • talonxvtalonxv Member Posts: 4,257 Arc User
    artan42 wrote: »
    kinda' dull.​​

    Yup. Dull. And usually filled with copy pasta. I sincerely hope Olivia starts a new obsession, such as whining about how immobile Bastion is in Overwatch, and how that's a dev conspiracy. And we can get back to Star Trek!

    So Overwatch will form a new taskforce called Oliviawatch?

    Or call in team arrow to eliminate Olivia, which we could all hope for right?
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  • thunderfoot#5163 thunderfoot Member Posts: 4,545 Arc User
    edited November 2016
    Some crackpots utter things out loud simply for the attention and notoriety it brings them. Responding to threads such as this merely reinforces negative behavior and encourages them to act out in public more outrageously more often. I would not be surprised in the slightest to tune in to the 6 o'clock news and see the lead story be oliviaclaire has taken the Dev team hostage.

    There is only one way this will end. And that way will be badly. Sadly, I have now done my part to encourage more bad behavior.
    I apologize but dammit! Somebody please get the OP to start taking her meds again! Please!
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  • talonxvtalonxv Member Posts: 4,257 Arc User
    Some crackpots utter things out loud simply for the attention and notoriety it brings them. Responding to threads such as this merely reinforces negative behavior and encourages them to act out in public more outrageously more often. I would not be surprised in the slightest to tune in to the 6 o'clock news and see the lead story be oliviaclaire has taken the Dev team hostage.

    There is only one way this will end. And that way will be badly. Sadly, I have now done my part to encourage more bad behavior.
    I apologize but dammit! Somebody please get the OP to start taking her meds again! Please!

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  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,865 Arc User
    Reality has a bias towards the Federation (Starfleet).
  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    talonxv wrote: »
    artan42 wrote: »
    kinda' dull.​​

    Yup. Dull. And usually filled with copy pasta. I sincerely hope Olivia starts a new obsession, such as whining about how immobile Bastion is in Overwatch, and how that's a dev conspiracy. And we can get back to Star Trek!

    So Overwatch will form a new taskforce called Oliviawatch?

    Or call in team arrow to eliminate Olivia, which we could all hope for right?

    Yesssss! You all totally get it!

    :smile:
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  • jorantomalakjorantomalak Member Posts: 7,133 Arc User
    Nothing to see here just passing through
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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited November 2016
    talonxv wrote: »
    artan42 wrote: »
    kinda' dull.​​

    Yup. Dull. And usually filled with copy pasta. I sincerely hope Olivia starts a new obsession, such as whining about how immobile Bastion is in Overwatch, and how that's a dev conspiracy. And we can get back to Star Trek!

    So Overwatch will form a new taskforce called Oliviawatch?

    Or call in team arrow to eliminate Olivia, which we could all hope for right?
    Olivia Claire, you have failed this cityforum!

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    Can you please do something about the conspiracy theories when possible? Kinda getting annoying with the constant beating of the dead horse into mashed potatoes when we already know Star Trek in general is Fed biased by nature.
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  • theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 6,102 Arc User
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    Please could you deal with this ?
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    • ssbn655ssbn655 Member Posts: 1,894 Arc User
      As it was advertised on the official Star Trek website, Star Trek Online Console Exclusives:

      Players on the Xbox One console version of STO will receive a free Tier 1 Blockade Runner Escort Steamrunner-class Starship. On the PlayStation 4 console version, players will receive a free Tier 1 Andorian Light Escort. Note that these items will be available for free for two weeks after launch.

      PlayStation Plus users will also receive a free Wrath of Khan Starfleet Uniform.

      Only the Federation (Starfleet) players were able to receive the free promo ships on their respective consoles.

      On October 27th, they released their console infographic with the faction statistics included. Did they still expect people to believe that it wasn't affected by the promo bias? There's also a myth that the console players would know nothing about the game to be biased toward a particular faction. Yet, this myth is easily debunked by looking at the GameFAQs' XBOX ONE forum posts like this:

      klingons have been getting the short end of the stick since the game came out 6 years ago

      Looks like there are console gamers who have been perfectly aware of the faction situation after all. That's because there's something called reputation, built from publicly accessible websites, user reviews and forum posts. This is proof that they have been deliberately undermining Klingons to try to force the Federation (Starfleet) on everyone.

      Quod erat demonstrandum. :)

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ppt8OWaHg5c

      Welcome to STO and it's bias to the Federation. Nothing new OP with Cryptic doing this, It's been that way for years on PC.
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