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lucho80lucho80 Member Posts: 6,600 Bug Hunter
From STO's Facebook page:
Captains! Each day this week, you'll have the chance to get your very own Star Trek Attack Wing ship! Show off your Trek knowledge and you might be randomly selected to get an iconic Star Trek Attack Wing ships as well as PS4 code unlocking a full Starfleet Pack!
Winners will be selected the following day for the previous day's question.

I play more on the PC, but have the XBOX. Why the heck did you come up with a PS4 exclusive contest when both consoles have the game?

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  • lnbladelnblade Member Posts: 410 Arc User
    I would guess that Sony paid them some money or did something else to incentivize Cryptic/Attack Wing to make the contest PS4 exclusive.
  • tigerariestigeraries Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    Most likely Sony & WizKids paid to do a promo... nothing's free in life, someone has to pay for it.
  • nightkennightken Member Posts: 2,824 Arc User
    actually so far almost all of the console giveaways have been ps4 only.

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  • salazarrazesalazarraze Member Posts: 3,794 Arc User
    Where's the guy that said lucho is a stalwart defender?
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  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,865 Arc User
    Microsoft and Sony pay for exclusives all the time, apparently this is one of them.

    Karma for MS locking away Mass Effect 1 and the GTA 4 DLC I guess.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 59,174 Community Moderator
    Guys... PC will be getting a promo Command Assault Cruiser via Attack Wing sometime soon, most likely around the anniversary of First Contact. And that is more guaranteed than entering a drawing.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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  • tigerariestigeraries Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    Guys... PC will be getting a promo Command Assault Cruiser via Attack Wing sometime soon, most likely around the anniversary of First Contact. And that is more guaranteed than entering a drawing.

    drawing = free

    doesnt hurt to enter.

    that code is roughly $15 retail... sides did the code say it was for pc only? could every well work on consoles, wont know till we see the blurbage on the code.
  • lucho80lucho80 Member Posts: 6,600 Bug Hunter
    edited October 2016
    Where's the guy that said lucho is a stalwart defender?

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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 59,174 Community Moderator
    tigeraries wrote: »
    drawing = free

    doesnt hurt to enter.

    that code is roughly $15 retail... sides did the code say it was for pc only? could every well work on consoles, wont know till we see the blurbage on the code.

    When I said guaranteed, I was referring to the fact that the drawing only gives you a CHANCE. The upcoming Sovy promo is guaranteed you WILL get one if you get the little pack.
    Both are a choice.
    Secondly, the new U.S.S. Enterprise-E comes with a promotional code for use with Star Trek Online. Use the code included in your pack to claim the WizKids EXCLUSIVE Command Assault Cruiser, a $30 value, in Star Trek Online for FREE. Players will only be able to claim the digital version of the ship for the Star Trek Online game by physically purchasing the expansion at their local game stores.

    While it doesn't say anything about PC only, the majority of players so far are PC since console is still new.

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    Also... we don't know if PC and consoles will be getting ship releases at the same time. There are many questions still left unanswered. All I was pointing out was that complaining about console exclusives is kinda pointless when we have something coming up.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
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  • lucho80lucho80 Member Posts: 6,600 Bug Hunter
    edited November 2016
    Lol, I think I saw some of those damn little ships and the game on a clearance bin a week ago for $2 each.

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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 59,174 Community Moderator
    lucho80 wrote: »
    Lol, I think I saw some of those damn little ships and the game on a clearance bin a week ago for $2 each.

    Might have been early run sets or they just don't sell well in your area.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
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    colored text = mod mode
  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User
    This is one of the areas that I'll admit.. it irks me.

    As a Gamer, I personally feel the platform exclusives are one of the worst things to happen to gaming as a whole since the invention of 'pre order DLC' (Content that's locked out of the game if you don't pay early.)

    For the record, I'm not a 'brand loyalty' type of guy. When it comes to XBOne vs PS4, I don't care.. I go with what gives me the best deal for my money. Intel vs AMD, iPhone vs Android.. all of it.. I don't care. You can take your brand and shove it, I buy from whoever gives me the best deal.

    That being said, we really need to find a way to end platform exclusive offers. Yes, I get it, they provide a way for one brand to say they have something that the other brand(s) don't, but in the end it's the player that loses out. Most people aren't going to buy a PC, an XBox One, and a PS4 all just so that they can have access to every offer so ultimately when you make an offer for one you give the other gamers the short end of the stick. Offering promotions on all platforms appeals to a larger player base and encourages more overall participation.

    This isn't even about this Attack Wing thing, because honestly.. I don't have any interest in this either way. It's just the overall idea of platform exclusives that I object to. This applies to everything, especially games that release only on XBox or only on PS4 and are never available to the other console or to the PC crowd. I'm just overall tired of seeing stuff like this.
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  • thlaylierahthlaylierah Member Posts: 2,991 Arc User
    I felt much the same when my latest Nvidia update on my PC advertised a cool looking game that I disappointedly found to be exclusively for PS4.

    (Surprisingly for the advertisers I'm not buying a PS4 to play their game. )
  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User
    edited November 2016
    I felt much the same when my latest Nvidia update on my PC advertised a cool looking game that I disappointedly found to be exclusively for PS4.

    (Surprisingly for the advertisers I'm not buying a PS4 to play their game. )

    That's even more strange when you consider that the PS4 has an AMD GPU. Strange that Nvidia would advertise a system made by their competitor.
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  • legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan Member Posts: 37,284 Arc User
    edited November 2016
    sony makes PS4 systems, not whoever makes AMD cards, and last i checked, sony isn't a direct competitor of nvidia

    and the company that made the game in question probably paid nvidia a bundle to advertise it - money talks, you know?​​
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  • byozuma#0956 byozuma Member Posts: 502 Arc User
    I see the differences in opinions on this subject are just as much generational as they are genre-defined. I, as a gamer from the generation that made gaming what it is today, see absolutely nothing wrong with either campaign they're running. Not the Wizkids nor the Facebook campaigns. I don't play the Wizkids game nor do I have a Facebook account and neither campaign is going to see me rushing out to the store to buy the little toy ship nor sign up for a Facebook account. Exclusives like these have been around for decades and are as much a part of gaming culture as culture has been a part of gaming (that be some circle, huh).

    Hard to believe? The biggest offender of exclusives is the most popular gaming franchise in the history of gaming franchises, Pokemon. Yes, that game that blew up like you wouldn't believe off just one game and has yet to not sell like gangbusters also has the most regional exclusives. There's pokemon that have only been awarded from tournaments, pokemon that only been gifted out of Pokemon stores, even pokemon that have only been gifted out of Japanese train stations. Train stations, not game stores! Some of these pokemon have moves exclusive to said pokemon, like the pikachu with Surf. Surf, that water-only utility move!

    This notion that exclusives are 'unfair' and 'biased', while marginally true, is also inherently selfish, entitled and speaks more to the attitudes making the claims than it does to what the claims are actually about.
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  • turbomagnusturbomagnus Member Posts: 3,479 Arc User
    Personally, I think the WizKids/Command Sovvie campaign is clever cross-marketing; those who play Attack Wing but not STO might be inclined to start STO knowing they can get a free thirty dollar ship when they do and STO players who want the ship - and so buy the Attack Wing model - might be inclined to take up Attack Wing for when they're not online. (Or at least buy tons of models so they can have a 'war room' and 'map table' with models representing their ship, allied ships and enemy ships to plan out how they're going to do STFs and such).

    Of course, what do I know? I used to collect Attacktix - now there's you something that didn't work out that well, marketingwise...
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  • lucho80lucho80 Member Posts: 6,600 Bug Hunter
    Some of these pokemon have moves exclusive to said pokemon, like the pikachu with Surf. Surf, that water-only utility move!

    I used to have that pokemon back in the old Yellow version.
  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,602 Arc User
    lucho80 wrote: »
    Some of these pokemon have moves exclusive to said pokemon, like the pikachu with Surf. Surf, that water-only utility move!

    I used to have that pokemon back in the old Yellow version.

    I still have it :smiley: lol. But seriously, complaining because a different platform has a competition/giveaway is just not on. It doesn't affect your game in any way, shape or form!
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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User
    edited November 2016
    This notion that exclusives are 'unfair' and 'biased', while marginally true, is also inherently selfish, entitled and speaks more to the attitudes making the claims than it does to what the claims are actually about.

    Yeah, you're right.. wanting things to be available for everyone is 'selfish' and 'entitled.'

    You really should look up the definition of words before you use them in a public setting. No one is denying that exclusivity has been around forever, I grew up with Mario on the Nintendo and Sonic on the Sega.. it's nothing new, but it still sucks. Just because something has sucked for a long time doesn't make it right.

    If you think wanting things to be freely available to everyone is 'selfish' then the only attitude in question here is yours.
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  • byozuma#0956 byozuma Member Posts: 502 Arc User
    I'll grant you that the door swings both ways. I wholly accept the concept and practice of exclusives because it's what I've come to expect of the world. I have satellite, had it for years now, but every so often I see an ad for my particular service on public channels advertising exclusive deals that I'm not being offered despite being a long-standing customer. Am I angry? No, it's part of their incentive plan to get more customers. Nor have I gotten on the phone to complain about it because I know they have no obligation to give me these offers. I've been given my money's worth in services and I'm content with it (when it's not horribly overcast). This is no different.

    Heck, it's attitudes like these that ruin other people's enjoyment on the games they play. In XIV during the 2.0 Beta 1.0 players were given access to various items they'd been able to obtain and keep. Among these was a special mount obtainable during the last summer of 1.0, the Minstrel's Goobbue. When players who hadn't been there for the last year of 1.0 saw these mounts they immediately took to the official forums to complain about how they want the mount despite having ignored 1.0 for reasons unknown. Thanks to their cries for wanting this and other things only obtainable in 1.0 all players coming into the the game with 1.0 characters were forced to play on a small number of servers, unable to transfer from them for months after the game's launch. All because of the selfishness of people angry over missing out on some exclusives that they could have easily obtained for themselves if they really cared about XIV. And I wish it ended with that, but this year has just been more of the same, with these self same players again whining over exclusives not unlike the pokemon in my prior example. International versions with their own special incentives to get players in those regions to try the game.

    Yeah, I'm a little miffed at the attitudes people like that portray. You'd be, too, in the face of that kind of selfishness.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    Yeah, it's annoying when the people complain that other people got free stuff... even worse when it's not really free but a reward for having done something.
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