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I am owed triple the TF marks at the very least

I was caught in a tractor beam (big suprise). I activiated Polarize Hull. My ship would not move! Then I get a "defeated" window shortly after. I concider that "defeated" window as INVALID. Because the game had to CHEAT for it to happen. THIS TOTALLY UNEXCEPTBAL! So I am owed Triple the TF marks at the very least! Why should the developers' get away scott free without being penalized? I get told it isn't a cheat. Then why does it come off as a cheat then? Getting a legitamate command ignored just so they can give me a defeated window. That is't right!
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  • tigerariestigeraries Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    did you release the "parking break"?
  • f9thretxcf9thretxc Member Posts: 505 Arc User
    Parking break is to be installed on Tuesday.​​
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  • salazarrazesalazarraze Member Posts: 3,794 Arc User
    This almost reads like the old German Kid Destroys Keyboard video.
    When you see "TRIBBLE" in my posts, it's because I manually typed "TRIBBLE" and censored myself.
  • oldschooldorkoldschooldork Member Posts: 426 Arc User
    It's not cheating, it's creative gaming.
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    I don't care what the header says, I am not now, nor have I ever been, nor will I ever be, an "ARC user".
  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,865 Arc User
    And since that character died, you'll need to create and start leveling a new one :(
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 59,174 Community Moderator
    Honestly... this rant is coming off as childish. You blew up and you feel cheated. Its just a game. As long as you achieved the objectives, you still got a reward. Calling for triple reward just because you blew up and you feel cheated is honestly uncalled for and pointless.

    Any number of things could be the problem, up to and including a programming bug.
    • Hitting the power NEXT to Polarize Hull (Accidental)
    • Timing (Could have had low HP and you got hit)
    • Engine Power may have been knocked out by the Phaser Proc
    • Bug that affects the effectiveness of Polarize Hull to resist Tractor Beams
    • Any combination of the above
    • Any possibility I missed here

    Based on the limited info you gave us, we can't figure out what caused you to blow up OP. Some of us have been around long enough to know things happen. There used to be a bug we liked to call Invisitorps in Borg STFs where you could be just fine at FULL HP and shields, then BOOM! Just spontaneously explode while fighting a cube. More recently there was a bug where Polarize Hull didn't work against Borg Tractor Beams, so even if you did pop it, you weren't moving.

    Consider all variables before crying foul.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
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  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    I resisted last time but not twice...

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  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,865 Arc User
    Guys, @fl219 was just joking and posting a parody rant. Right? Right?

    (I admit it's hard to tell in these forums....)
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 59,174 Community Moderator
    @davefenestrator I honestly don't know. I mean we got the conspiracy theorist who goes into so much detail on... I really don't know what, going on in Ten Forward...
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 59,174 Community Moderator
    Blast that phone foiling plans...
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
    normal text = me speaking as fellow formite
    colored text = mod mode
  • gavinrunebladegavinruneblade Member Posts: 3,894 Arc User
    i really want a link to a video of joker bidding on a nuclear bomb. Sadly, I've never been able to find it uploaded anywhere.

    Roughly, from memory, its him saying "zero, zilch, nada, nothing, bupkiss... a big fat check for zero dollars drawn on the first international bank of skidoo!"

    There've been quite a few threads where that one would apply.

    There also used to be a fun webcomic, Pentasmal by aaron faber of men in hats fame, which used the punchline "you will get nothing" at least once a week. Angry pink guy shouting it. I miss that comic.
  • oldschooldorkoldschooldork Member Posts: 426 Arc User
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    I don't care what the header says, I am not now, nor have I ever been, nor will I ever be, an "ARC user".
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    Blast that phone foiling plans...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1j7lyRnxVE
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  • nccmarknccmark Member Posts: 1,084 Arc User
    THIS TOTALLY UNEXCEPTBAL!

    New fav quote. To be used by everyone all the time.

    Thanks fool!
  • thlaylierahthlaylierah Member Posts: 2,991 Arc User
    edited October 2016
    I usually refer to that window as "cheatfeated" as it's always the case when I get blown up.

    Whether it's the tractor release delay or the ability trigger failure this game "cheats" hard.

    That said, it is what it is, you have to learn to compensate for the game because it won't change.

    And for what it's worth I don't think it's intentional, just sluggish UI and lag.

    The one that really gets me is the Phaser Defense console that if clicked twice while you are trying to hammer the command through the thick game skull shuts off and you miss out on that power for the full CD.

    Why is there a turn off command?
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    IIRC, PDS gets reflected by FBP and that Voth shield trick.
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  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    And since that character died, you'll need to create and start leveling a new one :(

    ^ This.

    On the bright side, your new character will no longer have the faulty Polarize Hull, so you won't die that way next time.
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 59,174 Community Moderator
    And since that character died, you'll need to create and start leveling a new one :(

    ^ This.

    On the bright side, your new character will no longer have the faulty Polarize Hull, so you won't die that way next time.

    Nah... just do the Klingon thing and Execute the BOff for Incompetence. :D
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
    normal text = me speaking as fellow formite
    colored text = mod mode
  • djxprimedjxprime Member Posts: 522 Arc User
    edited October 2016
    This almost reads like the old German Kid Destroys Keyboard video.

    Did somebody mention Angry German Kid? :D
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miOWJ4rKb_g
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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User
    fl219 wrote: »
    I was caught in a tractor beam (big suprise). I activiated Polarize Hull. My ship would not move! Then I get a "defeated" window shortly after. I concider that "defeated" window as INVALID. Because the game had to CHEAT for it to happen. THIS TOTALLY UNEXCEPTBAL! So I am owed Triple the TF marks at the very least! Why should the developers' get away scott free without being penalized? I get told it isn't a cheat. Then why does it come off as a cheat then? Getting a legitamate command ignored just so they can give me a defeated window. That is't right!

    I just want to thank you and all the other childish idiots exactly like you for making these forums so interesting. Without people like you acting like a petulant child throwing a hissy fit every time they didn't get their way this forum just wouldn't be the same. You're a credit to nerd rage trolls everywhere, thank you for your constant comedic value and please don't ever stop.
    I resisted last time but not twice...

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    10/10
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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    Star Trek Online Advancement: You start with lowbie gear, you end with Lobi gear.
  • sunfranckssunfrancks Member Posts: 3,925 Arc User
    edited October 2016
    azrael605 wrote: »
    Nvm, was trying to post the Wonka "you get nothing" gif but apparently I can't do that with my phone.

    Here, let me FTFY.

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    As for the OP, would you like some more whine with that cheese?
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  • kjfettkjfett Member Posts: 370 Arc User
    @fl219 You are owed nothing. You were already dead on the server side before you triggered PH.
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  • hanover2hanover2 Member Posts: 1,053 Arc User
    I am owed...

    Alert! False entitlement rhetoric inbound! Do not engage!
  • jaguarskxjaguarskx Member Posts: 5,945 Arc User
    Could have been multiple tractor beams.

    I do not use Polarized Hull, but I do use Attack Pattern Omega or Evasive Maneuvers to escape when I am caught with a tractor beam. The thing is when there are more than one tractor beam on me my chances of escaping goes downhill. With two tractor beams on me I can still fly away, but not as quickly compared to having only one tractor beam on me. With three tractor beams on me I cannot move.
  • edrogenedrogen Member Posts: 202 Arc User
    The developers can do what ever they want, it's their sandbox and you're just playing in it.

    I for one welcome our developer overlords and I’d like to remind them that as a loyal STO gamer, I can be helpful in rounding up others to toil in their underground sugar caves.
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