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Please make KDF prisoners account bound!

Several of my toons have well over 100 prisoners that I received via the admiralty system. The are character bound, but if I unpack them, I can mail them to another toon, but I have to do that 5 prisoners at a time. I would like to request these prisoners be made account bound so they are easier to transfer. Please?

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  • baudlbaudl Member Posts: 4,060 Arc User
    the box is bound...the prisoner doffs aren't bound. you can mail them and sell them...and since there is a way to send them to another character or sell them, there really is no need for anything you requested.
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  • nccmarknccmark Member Posts: 1,084 Arc User
    Lol
  • fovrelfovrel Member Posts: 1,448 Arc User
    And what problem will we have if the box isn't bound?
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    fovrel wrote: »
    And what problem will we have if the box isn't bound?
    Yeah I've always wondered this and it puzzles me greatly. Only thing I can think of is to keep people from buying and selling prisoners as a bulk commodity, but that doesn't really seem like something that would be a big deal.
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  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    fovrel wrote: »
    And what problem will we have if the box isn't bound?

    There is only one box, that gives prisoners of the faction the character belongs to, so if it wasn't character bound you could choose what kind of prisoners it contains.

    This, of course, wouldn't be such a big deal...if not for the fact that Fed prisoners are completely worthless.
  • indysharkindyshark Member Posts: 1,557 Arc User
    baudl wrote: »
    the box is bound...the prisoner doffs aren't bound. you can mail them and sell them...and since there is a way to send them to another character or sell them, there really is no need for anything you requested.

    Please reread my comment. I am aware that I can uncrate and email them 5 at a time. I have two toons with over 100 prisoners and a couple of toons with none. It would be convenient to use the account bank to move them around rather than use email.
  • xyquarzexyquarze Member Posts: 2,130 Arc User
    warpangel wrote: »
    This, of course, wouldn't be such a big deal...if not for the fact that Fed prisoners are completely worthless.

    Worthless? After airlocking 10,000 you don't only have 10,000 dilithium but also maxed out the recruitment commendation.
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  • baudlbaudl Member Posts: 4,060 Arc User
    warpangel wrote: »
    This, of course, wouldn't be such a big deal...if not for the fact that Fed prisoners are completely worthless.
    they sell pretty ok on the exchange, also they are a easy source for fleet marks with that 64 colonist mission that also accepts prisoners

    @OP, I read your post, I just repeated it so you could see how little benefit you'd get...it is already quite convenient was what I meant to communicate to you.
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  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    baudl wrote: »
    warpangel wrote: »
    This, of course, wouldn't be such a big deal...if not for the fact that Fed prisoners are completely worthless.
    they sell pretty ok on the exchange, also they are a easy source for fleet marks with that 64 colonist mission that also accepts prisoners

    Fleet credit is itself almost completely worthless beyond a certain point (it's capped at 10m), and prisoners don't sell for high enough to be efficient use of exchange slots to sell them one at a time.
  • binebanebinebane Member Posts: 557 Arc User
    fovrel wrote: »
    And what problem will we have if the box isn't bound?
    Yeah I've always wondered this and it puzzles me greatly. Only thing I can think of is to keep people from buying and selling prisoners as a bulk commodity, but that doesn't really seem like something that would be a big deal.
    slave in a box?

  • indysharkindyshark Member Posts: 1,557 Arc User
    No, I am not suggesting we move Fed prisoners to KDF players. I want to move large stacks of prisoners from one KDF player to another without using the mail system to do it 5 at a time.
  • trennantrennan Member Posts: 2,839 Arc User
    My question is. Why are 90% of the prisoners from the Admirality System KDF? I play KDF more than I do any other faction. Why would I consider a "Federation Prisoner", which is KDF, a prisoner to begin with. I wouldn't, I'd just let them go.

    Thanks to the Admirality System, both my KDF chars have a full brig with boxes of more stacked up in their inventory. I know that when I open a "faction specific prisoner" all I will be getting is KDF prisoners. As a KDF player, receiving KDF prisoner is not "Faction Specific."

    I've also noticed that there is a problem with the foundry more important than this. That being the Admirality Ship cards you can get. While this is a good thing. You have to pay attention to the ones you get. They are based of the players class. So a Tac officer will receive more Tac oriented ships. This is so, even if it comes from a Science Heavy Assignment.

    On the prisoner thing though. As a KDF player, and the fact you mainly get KDF prisoners from the Admirality System. I've just started Dismissing prisoners. I also find it odd that the Klingon Admirality doesn't have a means of getting prisoners. But then we can balance this out with Marauding.
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  • indysharkindyshark Member Posts: 1,557 Arc User
    I usually look for the mission "Support Colonization Efforts". You can dump 64 prisoners for fleet credit.
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  • tyler002tyler002 Member Posts: 1,586 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    trennan wrote: »
    My question is. Why are 90% of the prisoners from the Admirality System KDF? I play KDF more than I do any other faction. Why would I consider a "Federation Prisoner", which is KDF, a prisoner to begin with. I wouldn't, I'd just let them go.

    Thanks to the Admirality System, both my KDF chars have a full brig with boxes of more stacked up in their inventory. I know that when I open a "faction specific prisoner" all I will be getting is KDF prisoners. As a KDF player, receiving KDF prisoner is not "Faction Specific."

    I've also noticed that there is a problem with the foundry more important than this. That being the Admirality Ship cards you can get. While this is a good thing. You have to pay attention to the ones you get. They are based of the players class. So a Tac officer will receive more Tac oriented ships. This is so, even if it comes from a Science Heavy Assignment.

    On the prisoner thing though. As a KDF player, and the fact you mainly get KDF prisoners from the Admirality System. I've just started Dismissing prisoners. I also find it odd that the Klingon Admirality doesn't have a means of getting prisoners. But then we can balance this out with Marauding.

    Do you mean "KDF Prisoner" as in they have a Federation border and background?
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  • chastity1337chastity1337 Member Posts: 1,608 Arc User
    tyler002 wrote: »
    trennan wrote: »
    My question is. Why are 90% of the prisoners from the Admirality System KDF? I play KDF more than I do any other faction. Why would I consider a "Federation Prisoner", which is KDF, a prisoner to begin with. I wouldn't, I'd just let them go.

    Thanks to the Admirality System, both my KDF chars have a full brig with boxes of more stacked up in their inventory. I know that when I open a "faction specific prisoner" all I will be getting is KDF prisoners. As a KDF player, receiving KDF prisoner is not "Faction Specific."

    I've also noticed that there is a problem with the foundry more important than this. That being the Admirality Ship cards you can get. While this is a good thing. You have to pay attention to the ones you get. They are based of the players class. So a Tac officer will receive more Tac oriented ships. This is so, even if it comes from a Science Heavy Assignment.

    On the prisoner thing though. As a KDF player, and the fact you mainly get KDF prisoners from the Admirality System. I've just started Dismissing prisoners. I also find it odd that the Klingon Admirality doesn't have a means of getting prisoners. But then we can balance this out with Marauding.

    Do you mean "KDF Prisoner" as in they have a Federation border and background?

    Yeah, that didn't make sense to me either. Not my experience and no idea what he's talking about. I don't have a problem or see a problem with the current situation.
  • xyquarzexyquarze Member Posts: 2,130 Arc User
    trennan wrote: »
    My question is. Why are 90% of the prisoners from the Admirality System KDF? I play KDF more than I do any other faction. Why would I consider a "Federation Prisoner", which is KDF, a prisoner to begin with. I wouldn't, I'd just let them go.

    Thanks to the Admirality System, both my KDF chars have a full brig with boxes of more stacked up in their inventory. I know that when I open a "faction specific prisoner" all I will be getting is KDF prisoners. As a KDF player, receiving KDF prisoner is not "Faction Specific."

    I've also noticed that there is a problem with the foundry more important than this. That being the Admirality Ship cards you can get. While this is a good thing. You have to pay attention to the ones you get. They are based of the players class. So a Tac officer will receive more Tac oriented ships. This is so, even if it comes from a Science Heavy Assignment.

    On the prisoner thing though. As a KDF player, and the fact you mainly get KDF prisoners from the Admirality System. I've just started Dismissing prisoners. I also find it odd that the Klingon Admirality doesn't have a means of getting prisoners. But then we can balance this out with Marauding.

    Well, terms are complicated here. In my reading, a "Fed Prisoner" is a prisoner a Fed player (or Fed-aligned Romulan) may get, which will be of one of the KDF races (Nausi, Ori, Klink, Gorn, don't think there are Letheans), while a "KDF prisoner" is a prisoner a KDF character may get into the brig, which in turn would be of a Fed race.

    In my experience, you only get prisoners of the alignment of the respective faction, no matter whether through doffing or through admiralty. If you indeed get Klingon race prisoners on a KDF toon, that would really surprise me.

    And in this terminology, Fed prisoners are almost worthless (you can dismiss them for a miniscule reward or hand in 2 at a time at the not really conveniently placed security officers for 5 dil and a couple of CXP and XP. KDF prisoners on the other hand can be traded in (in blocks of 10) for 500 dilithium.

    Additionally there are dominion prisoners (rare and very rare Vorcha and Jems) both factions can get, which can either substitute for "normal" prisoners or be used in special doff missions around DS9 to exchange them for gamma commodities or dominion doffs.

    As for the "foundry", I think you mean one time use admiralty cards (the foundry is the tool for player made episodes)? As far as I can tell they're not related to your career, just a somewhat random selection of the pool of available T6 admiralty cards - which plays against Sci vessels, since there are comparatively few of them.
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  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    trennan wrote: »
    I've also noticed that there is a problem with the foundry more important than this. That being the Admirality Ship cards you can get. While this is a good thing. You have to pay attention to the ones you get. They are based of the players class. So a Tac officer will receive more Tac oriented ships. This is so, even if it comes from a Science Heavy Assignment.
    They are not based on player class. All toons get more tac ships, because there are more tac ships in the list of available cards.

    Your faction does matter, though. Romulans get almost all tac ships. And non-Feds are very unlikely to get any science ships.
  • neomodiousneomodious Member Posts: 428 Arc User
    xyquarze wrote: »
    trennan wrote: »
    My question is. Why are 90% of the prisoners from the Admirality System KDF? I play KDF more than I do any other faction. Why would I consider a "Federation Prisoner", which is KDF, a prisoner to begin with. I wouldn't, I'd just let them go.

    Thanks to the Admirality System, both my KDF chars have a full brig with boxes of more stacked up in their inventory. I know that when I open a "faction specific prisoner" all I will be getting is KDF prisoners. As a KDF player, receiving KDF prisoner is not "Faction Specific."

    I've also noticed that there is a problem with the foundry more important than this. That being the Admirality Ship cards you can get. While this is a good thing. You have to pay attention to the ones you get. They are based of the players class. So a Tac officer will receive more Tac oriented ships. This is so, even if it comes from a Science Heavy Assignment.

    On the prisoner thing though. As a KDF player, and the fact you mainly get KDF prisoners from the Admirality System. I've just started Dismissing prisoners. I also find it odd that the Klingon Admirality doesn't have a means of getting prisoners. But then we can balance this out with Marauding.

    Well, terms are complicated here. In my reading, a "Fed Prisoner" is a prisoner a Fed player (or Fed-aligned Romulan) may get, which will be of one of the KDF races (Nausi, Ori, Klink, Gorn, don't think there are Letheans), while a "KDF prisoner" is a prisoner a KDF character may get into the brig, which in turn would be of a Fed race.

    In my experience, you only get prisoners of the alignment of the respective faction, no matter whether through doffing or through admiralty. If you indeed get Klingon race prisoners on a KDF toon, that would really surprise me.

    And in this terminology, Fed prisoners are almost worthless (you can dismiss them for a miniscule reward or hand in 2 at a time at the not really conveniently placed security officers for 5 dil and a couple of CXP and XP. KDF prisoners on the other hand can be traded in (in blocks of 10) for 500 dilithium.

    Additionally there are dominion prisoners (rare and very rare Vorcha and Jems) both factions can get, which can either substitute for "normal" prisoners or be used in special doff missions around DS9 to exchange them for gamma commodities or dominion doffs.

    As for the "foundry", I think you mean one time use admiralty cards (the foundry is the tool for player made episodes)? As far as I can tell they're not related to your career, just a somewhat random selection of the pool of available T6 admiralty cards - which plays against Sci vessels, since there are comparatively few of them.

    Additionally, KDF can often turn in 4? for 350? Dilithium at the various clusters as forced labor.​​
  • brian334brian334 Member Posts: 2,219 Arc User
    I find plenty of opportunities to get rid of Fed prisoners for Colonization CXP and dill. Look on the far left end of the Alpha Quadrant map.

    As for what Klingons would do...

    A Klingon captured alive by an enemy, who does not commit suicide at the first opportunity, shames his family. A Klingon 'rescued' from captivity must be slain both to assuage his guilt and to serve as a lesson to young warriors. Only a successful escape or some great deed done while captive can mitigate the shame of imprisonment.

    So, any prisoners of the Federation released into the custody of the Klingon Empire would be summarily slain by the Klingons. I can see this having two results, the first of which will be a policy by the Federation of never repatriating Klingon captives, and the second of which is a need for a place to put those captives where they will never be found by the Empire.

    This is where Kerrema Labor Battalions come in handy.
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