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Modern Starbase in 23c zone?

Ok, I've asked this repeatedly in the 23c sector space, but no one ever says ANYTHING there (most unsocial zone ever). Thus I ask here.

Is there a reason there's a modern (ie 25c) starbase in the 23c zone? It's near the edge of the orion sector, about 4 boxes up from the bottom (sector I-4, roughly).

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  • thecoffinflythecoffinfly Member Posts: 203 Arc User
    Are you thinking of Deneva? That's where K-13 is/ where the new fleet holding will be.
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  • thecoffinflythecoffinfly Member Posts: 203 Arc User
    Are you thinking of Deneva? That's where K-13 is/ where the new fleet holding will be.

    Wrong, Deneva is home to starbase 12.

    The starbase fleet holding is part of the "unexplored territory" area in the Orion sector in the south.

    K-13 was at Deneva. the AoY mission "Painful Omens" takes place there. The "Unexplored Territory" you are thinking of was used for "Tangled Web".
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    Ok, I've asked this repeatedly in the 23c sector space, but no one ever says ANYTHING there (most unsocial zone ever). Thus I ask here.

    Is there a reason there's a modern (ie 25c) starbase in the 23c zone? It's near the edge of the orion sector, about 4 boxes up from the bottom (sector I-4, roughly).
    Are you thinking of SB-39? Although it's near the Neutral Zone.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    wait... that sounds like Starbase 24. It's just drifting in deep space not part of a solar system?
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  • hevachhevach Member Posts: 2,777 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    That's not a 25th Century starbase style, it's of the same style set as Starbase 39 and 24, which are older, particularly visible with the style of hangar door being closer to K-7's than ESD's (and even ESD is 23rd Century). If it is an anachronism (39 hasn't been upgraded to this configuration in the TOS sector map), it's a ~2280's anachronism, not from 2410.

    Unlike SB39 and SB24 it has some extra projections extending out around the... spire? Shaft? Vertical thing? But the basic style is there, with almost all of 39's features and a few bits tacked on.


    Edit: Anybody wants to take a look, two grid squares right and three up from the Coridan system, there's one yellow dot in the grid square and it roughly corresponds to where the station is hanging in open space.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    Sooo who can tell me where this starbase picture came from?
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    Looking on the modern map, it appears to be Starbase 24.

    Now, what is a starbase that modern doing in the 23c?
    Well, my hypothesis is that the devs basically copy pasted the Beta quadrant map from the present, deleted some stuff, and added a few things to it.... which is also why you can see SB 39 in the Sierra system. Apparently they forgot those.
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  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    Looking on the modern map, it appears to be Starbase 24.

    Now, what is a starbase that modern doing in the 23c?

    Starbase 24 existed in the 23rd century.

    http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Starbase_24
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    warpangel wrote: »
    Looking on the modern map, it appears to be Starbase 24.

    Now, what is a starbase that modern doing in the 23c?
    Starbase 24 existed in the 23rd century.

    http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Starbase_24
    Yeah, but I'm pretty sure it didn't look like:
    screenshot_2016_09_21_20_06_14_by_marhawkman-daikfz8.jpg
    in the 23c.
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  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    warpangel wrote: »
    Looking on the modern map, it appears to be Starbase 24.

    Now, what is a starbase that modern doing in the 23c?
    Starbase 24 existed in the 23rd century.

    http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Starbase_24
    Yeah, but I'm pretty sure it didn't look like:
    screenshot_2016_09_21_20_06_14_by_marhawkman-daikfz8.jpg
    in the 23c.

    It wasn't shown on screen in the 23rd century so who know.s
  • mas134gluck123mas134gluck123 Member Posts: 302 Arc User
    that starbase there since reliease of AoY, i guess sb24 or its maybe Celes starbase, if it not get fixed at some point, i guess it will be a temporal gateway from 23th to 25th and vice versa.

    With holo emitters in guest quarters to mask, as that would be a violation of temporal directive.

    Also i think its already boarded by section 31 and all 25th century personal under interogation, so i hope we getting lot of new tech to fight romulans and klingons and turn the tide of Caleb :)
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  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    That's a late 23rd century design, remember the aesthetics of technology in Trek shifted rapidly between the 2260s (TOS) and 2280s (TMP-TVH).​​

    Yes. Federation historians have dubbed it the "movie budget effect." B)
  • mas134gluck123mas134gluck123 Member Posts: 302 Arc User
    That's a late 23rd century design, remember the aesthetics of technology in Trek shifted rapidly between the 2260s (TOS) and 2280s (TMP-TVH).​​

    i not sure i saw starbase like that in any star trek series, its maybe from late 24th?
  • sevenofnine13141sevenofnine13141 Member Posts: 4,275 Arc User
    It's actually from the late 23rd Century. Late 23rd Century ESD when the Enterprise-A was around was designed like the starbase we're talking about.
    EXAMPLE IMAGE OF A LATE-23RD CENTURY STARBASE (ESD) 270?cb=20080202033142&path-prefix=en
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  • mas134gluck123mas134gluck123 Member Posts: 302 Arc User
    yep that one, but that one lost in 23th century doesn't seems like one which belong there, design is quite more futuristic
  • sevenofnine13141sevenofnine13141 Member Posts: 4,275 Arc User
    Not all Late-23rd Century Starbases are using the same design. For example, Starbase 24 is similar to ESD, but also has differences in design. And that's just the 25th Century SB 24 and ESD alone. The 24th and 23rd Century had starbases that were all different in design.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    That's a late 23rd century design, remember the aesthetics of technology in Trek shifted rapidly between the 2260s (TOS) and 2280s (TMP-TVH).​​
    i not sure i saw starbase like that in any star trek series, its maybe from late 24th?
    Yeah it's an original Cryptic design that has certain similarities to designs from the series, but isn't actually the same as any of them. For reference... this is Starbase 24:
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