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How big is the Daedalus-class?
psycoticvulcan
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I'm writing a Foundry mission set in the 22nd century and I'd been treating the Daedalus as a new cruiser introduced during the Romulan War. But according to Memory Beta, it's apparently an older design that's barely half as long as the NX-class! I'll probably ignore the age for the sake of my story, but the size is a bigger problem if confirmed. Has anyone compared the Daedalus and NX-class size-wise in-game?
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As to size... I don't think STO is a good judge of scale. I mean my Vesta's Yellowstone Runabouts were about as big as my fleet leader's Defiant. Gameplay purposes make scale wonky.
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It's supposed to be as you describe, but I doubt any of that was canon. So STO made it a more advanced class than the Constitution.
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I don't really know about the size as I haven't seen any of these in game yet to compare. I'll be interested in the answer as well.
I agree, but it's just going to look weird if we have NX-class frigates getting overpowered by tiny cruisers they're shadowing. :P
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All they have on the Daedalus is that it supposedly has a crew complement of around 229 crew members.
I would estimate for the Daedalus to be somewhere in between the two ships in size. ~240 meters sounds about right to me.
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Interesting... I didn't realize the Connie was that similar in size to the NX.
I guess I can rationalize the Daedalus' smaller size with more advanced tech, but still, it's a bit weird to have a cruiser that's half the size of a frigate.
Thanks for the help.
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In A mirror darkly, both ships are flying next to each other, and one can make out the sizes, more or less. I'm gonna say it's the same length as a Miranda or something.
Very useful, thanks! Although according to "Power Play", the USS Essex had a crew of 229. That would imply a much larger interior than the NX-class, which I guess is represented by the sphere. Still, the NX is a very wide ship and it only accommodates 83 crew.
Also, I really want that "conjectural" 22nd-century design in the game.
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Well... consider that pretty much EVERYTHING was in the saucer of an NX class. Crew quarters, shuttlebay, engineering, sickbay... everything. The addition of a secondary hull would free up space for crew facilities.
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The website also stated the ship could carry over 100 extra crew as specialists for specific missions, but not on a regular long duration mission. Also (amusingly), the article about Daedalus talks of how the whole ship class was overworked to the point of suffering more catastrophic warp core explosions than any other: starfleet-museum.org/daedalus.htm