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Lets Talk Shuttles

With a recent replay of the delta quadrant patrol missions, I was dreading the one with the shuttle run. I thought I'd give a few opinions on the tiny crafts. First off the main flaw in flying shuttles, especially when trying to do a speed run on a course, is flying without a first person locked camera view. Our options are free camera, and camera centers on targeted object. These work fine when in a battle situation, but when trying to stay on an established path they just don't cut it. It's time wasting to turn the craft and adjust your camera at the same time. What is needed is a fixed camera angle on the craft so the camera always faces the bow of the shuttle. Being able to follow the path and fly through the check points without constantly adjusting the camera would be great.

Opinion list
Shuttles should not take up an active ship slot. They are small craft, yet they take up equal room on you roster and dry dock as a dreadnought does.
You should be able to use shuttles multiple times in Admiralty. I'm not saying unlimited, but come on. Your telling me out of all the many ships in my fleet I only have a handful of shuttles.

That's all I can think of for now,I'm sure more things will come to mind and others will add on as well.

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  • fluffymooffluffymoof Member Posts: 430 Arc User
    Shuttles should be their own beast. You get X ship slots and Y shuttle slots.
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  • neomodiousneomodious Member Posts: 428 Arc User
    There need to be more small craft available to KDF/ROM... I've got like 8-9 on FED side...​​
  • gholendhorgholendhor Member Posts: 447 Arc User
    I would also like to see more shuttles, then they can schedule the annual Delta quadrant race event. Get the right game mechanics going and it could turn out to be a bunch of fun.
  • captainbmoneycaptainbmoney Member Posts: 1,323 Arc User
    Janeway Endgame/Type 9 Shuttle please.

    Also would totally be fore Argo and Insurrection shuttles.

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  • theotherscotty#9105 theotherscotty Member Posts: 385 Arc User
    edited August 2016
    Good idea about having separate slots for small craft so they won't take up ship slots, and I hope that gets done soon.

    And while we're on the subject of shuttles, I'd like to get the proper interior for my TOS shuttle (Class F, I think it's called), with the windows that can slide open and everything. And a shuttle bay for the interior of our ships (just one of those nice little details I've been wanting. I figure they added it to the Pioneer-class interior so why not every ship?).

    Oh! And some Kelvin Timeline shuttles too; now that we've got some of the ships from that universe, the shuttles would be a nice addition too.
  • necreliosis#4763 necreliosis Member Posts: 112 Arc User
    Definitely would be cool to see shuttles given some love. I really like the three shuttle missions in the game, and wish there were both more shittles added (flyable epoch fighters would be pretty cool) and also more opportunities to use them. As far as the camera view angle thing, I'm not sure I understand how what you are talking about differs from the "chase camera" mode under controls settings but maybe I'm just having a hard time understanding the problem.
  • hanover2hanover2 Member Posts: 1,053 Arc User
    I would very much like to walk down to my shuttle bay to access the actual shuttle I have equipped.
  • captainbmoneycaptainbmoney Member Posts: 1,323 Arc User
    Shuttles will always need more love. As long as they are the 2nd used starship slot they need to at least be used in some good degrees.

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  • thelunarboythelunarboy Member Posts: 412 Arc User
    I'm not a massive fan of the shuttle missions because I end up all over the shop, but I still agree they both need some love and need to be kept apart from starships. You should have a shuttlebay slot which allows you to keep the basic number of shuttles the smallest starships had, with an option to expand the shuttlebay at your discretion/expense.

    One ambition I've had for a long time, is to take down the Mogai solo with a shuttle.... but I suspect I'm nowhere near that level of competence. I've jusat suspected that given its size, there would be an accolade.
  • risian4risian4 Member Posts: 3,711 Arc User
    I wish we could get some playable hangar pets. I would love playable Narcine frigates :)

    Or playable Kumari wing cannons :p
  • tiekosoratiekosora Member Posts: 325 Arc User
    edited August 2016
    I know a lot of people have asked for upgrades to existing shuttles, why not fleet variants? Better hull HP, better shield HP, maybe a rear slot for a weapon. Additionally, extra bridge officer seating, and at least in the case of the runabout variants, add a TRULY universal bridge officer slot. By this I mean, and career/specialization combination, to include Intel and Command. I have seen suggestions regarding granting shuttles the Pilot special moves that the Pilot escorts have. Honestly, I can only see that added to the Delta Flyers, perhaps as an offset for the lack of specialist universal BO seating.

    (Corrected some spelling.)
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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited August 2016
    I suspect it's just not really worth investing into this. They sell Shuttles for what -500 Zen? But making a shuttle model is not neccessarily any cheaper than making a cruiser model. And they'll probably sell that cruiser a lot more often than the shuttle, and get a lot more per sale.

    Maybe giving them the option to get Fleet and Upgradeable variants could be a neat trick that might at least manage to avoid the problem of making new models. But it might also be quite ridicilous, since you quickly surpasse Tier 1 ship capabilities. But maybe that's okay, since they are 25th century shuttles?

    But you still need interesting content with shuttle craft, and that might be another problem.
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  • peterconnorfirstpeterconnorfirst Member Posts: 6,225 Arc User
    edited August 2016

    But you still need interesting content with shuttle craft, and that might be another problem.

    I know it is unrealistic and too much to ask for, still a change of perspective might be all that’s needed.

    I for one love the shooter mode on ground combat. Something similar for shuttles would be cool. Some kind of "cockpit" view for example. Think, I would suddenly begin to love shuttle missions instead of running away from them. :)

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  • feiqafeiqa Member Posts: 2,410 Arc User
    tiekosora wrote: »
    I know a lot of people have asked for upgrades to existing shuttles, why not fleet variants? Better hull HP, better shield HP, maybe a rear slot for a weapon. Additionally, extra bridge officer seating, and at least in the case of the runabout variants, add a TRULY universal bridge officer slot. By this I mean, and career/specialization combination, to include Intel and Command. I have seen suggestions regarding granting shuttles the Pilot special moves that the Pilot escorts have. Honestly, I can only see that added to the Delta Flyers, perhaps as an offset for the lack of specialist universal BO seating.

    (Corrected some spelling.)

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  • isthisscienceisthisscience Member Posts: 863 Arc User
    First thing I think shuttles need is more regular, repeatable content/zones you actually want to play and better sign posting of of it. Then some variation is play style between them, like pilot seating. They need some perk over ships. Right now there isn't much to do to shuttles and content doesn't come round enough to warrant investing in top quality gear to make themeffective.
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,569 Arc User
    Shuttle Event. Best Mark Awards around.
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  • fmgtorres1979fmgtorres1979 Member Posts: 1,327 Arc User
    T6 shuttle!

    Sorry, I hate shuttles...I can't even pretend I don't. But since many seem to like them, why not?
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  • tiekosoratiekosora Member Posts: 325 Arc User
    feiqa wrote: »
    tiekosora wrote: »
    I know a lot of people have asked for upgrades to existing shuttles, why not fleet variants? Better hull HP, better shield HP, maybe a rear slot for a weapon. Additionally, extra bridge officer seating, and at least in the case of the runabout variants, add a TRULY universal bridge officer slot. By this I mean, and career/specialization combination, to include Intel and Command. I have seen suggestions regarding granting shuttles the Pilot special moves that the Pilot escorts have. Honestly, I can only see that added to the Delta Flyers, perhaps as an offset for the lack of specialist universal BO seating.

    (Corrected some spelling.)

    Why couldn't fighters benefit from piloting?

    Should I have said small craft instead?
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  • keladorkelador Member Posts: 318 Arc User
    Shuttles have always felt that they was added as an after thought to the game then the dev's kinda regretted it and decided to forgot they did it.
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