From what i can figure it out from the story on the game and Voyager, they can't, just a one time deal, seems that the process cannot be repeated on the same organism..
From what I understand, Kobali are sterile. So every single Kobali that exists used to be a race alien to the Kobali. So if Kobali only get one chance, then you can't make a Kobali out of a Kobali. Of course, that doesn't include the first generation of Kobali. The Kobali process wasn't originally done to them so it is possible that they could have been Kobalied.
Still reckon you could solve the Kobali "supply" issue by cloning inanimate bodies using transporter tech (seeking permission of the family of the deceased, who I think would be more open to the idea if they knew their loved one's body itself wasn't going to be used/abused but simply used as a copy template for Kobali.
That way people have a corpse to mourn without it being "desecrated" and the Kobali have a cadaver to inhabit and animate. In many ways it would be done in a similar way to organ donation scheme.
The Kobali aren't a real species, so presumably the zombie-people will go to whatever afterlife they would've originally gone to if the were never zombified.
Of course, it has never been established that Star Trek has an afterlife. Unless you believe Q in TNG: Tapestry, when he said "You're dead, this is the afterlife, and I'm God."
I think they are one of the most interesting races we meet in the trek universe. It's an interesting idea that they need to reproduce this way, what with it being the result of an accident or whatever in the past. It opens up all sort of moral questions and that's what trek has always been good at. Is it right to use other people's dead to further your own population, when being without such methods leaves you to die out as a race. Using the Vadwaur in suspended animation was a bit iffy though, they really should have just given them up and avoided the war, or at least taken the moral high ground. There is a big difference between pickup up dead bodies in space and holding crying-pods full of living creatures hostage waiting for them to die off.
We might not like it but it's at least better than the Borg who don't even wait until you're dead before taking you.
They have transporters. Therfore they have no need for corpserapeing. All the need to do is transport clone a few dozen of themselves and repeat every so often.
I still don't see why KDF players don't get the option to nuke the entire world from orbit.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
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Hmmm, if only we could Cobalify...
Imagine Einstein having his second life, what would he come up with?
I'm all for Cobalification... XD
He'd surely come up with some great stuff for the good of humanity ... shortly before a bunch of greedy idiots claim his researches as their own and use them to develop a new weapon to make themselves rich, that is.
Realistically I see the Kalobi being smart to find a couple of a primitive, easily manipulated races and interigrate them into their society like the Son'a did, that way the members of the race are indoctorinated into believing that giving their dead to the Kolabi is the natural course of things, while the Kolabi use their technology to radically boost those species fertility races and health (but only so far).
I think they are one of the most interesting races we meet in the trek universe.
It's an interesting idea that they need to reproduce this way, what with it being the result of an accident or whatever in the past. It opens up all sort of moral questions and that's what trek has always been good at.
Is it right to use other people's dead to further your own population, when being without such methods leaves you to die out as a race.
Using the Vadwaur in suspended animation was a bit iffy though, they really should have just given them up and avoided the war, or at least taken the moral high ground. There is a big difference between pickup up dead bodies in space and holding crying-pods full of living creatures hostage waiting for them to die off.
We might not like it but it's at least better than the Borg who don't even wait until you're dead before taking you.
"Waiting until you're dead" doesn't mean anything when they resurrect you anyway. You're going to the alive for the whole brainwashing thing either way. It's really worse than the Borg. Borg can be disconnected and retain their original mind.
I think that the Kobeelus are pretty sneaky with how they obtain the bodies. If I were a Kublini I would be more open about it and politely ask other species if they wanted a second chance at life as a Klomarix. Personally I wouldn't want to be a Koniad.
"Hi, uh, we're the Kobali. We are what happens when you allow us to make your dead into UNDEAD! So would you please do us a favor and kill a bunch of Vaadwar? They're, uh, threatening us...yeah...nothing about needing billions of bodies..."
And even with this, they're not as bad as the Deferi.
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I think they are one of the most interesting races we meet in the trek universe.
It's an interesting idea that they need to reproduce this way, what with it being the result of an accident or whatever in the past. It opens up all sort of moral questions and that's what trek has always been good at.
Is it right to use other people's dead to further your own population, when being without such methods leaves you to die out as a race.
Using the Vadwaur in suspended animation was a bit iffy though, they really should have just given them up and avoided the war, or at least taken the moral high ground. There is a big difference between pickup up dead bodies in space and holding crying-pods full of living creatures hostage waiting for them to die off.
We might not like it but it's at least better than the Borg who don't even wait until you're dead before taking you.
True.
But I don't see a moral issue; It's the survival of a species.
They don't go on a killing spree to get new members and the person gets the chance of living a new life after dying and doesn't completely loose the person he/she once was.
The only issue I can see is that they don't exactly ask if the person wants to live again, but considering they have free will afterwards and that most people don't want to die in the first place, it's not much of an issue.
I think they are one of the most interesting races we meet in the trek universe.
It's an interesting idea that they need to reproduce this way, what with it being the result of an accident or whatever in the past. It opens up all sort of moral questions and that's what trek has always been good at.
Is it right to use other people's dead to further your own population, when being without such methods leaves you to die out as a race.
Using the Vadwaur in suspended animation was a bit iffy though, they really should have just given them up and avoided the war, or at least taken the moral high ground. There is a big difference between pickup up dead bodies in space and holding crying-pods full of living creatures hostage waiting for them to die off.
We might not like it but it's at least better than the Borg who don't even wait until you're dead before taking you.
True.
But I don't see a moral issue; It's the survival of a species.
They don't go on a killing spree to get new members and the person gets the chance of living a new life after dying and doesn't completely loose the person he/she once was.
The only issue I can see is that they don't exactly ask if the person wants to live again, but considering they have free will afterwards and that most people don't want to die in the first place, it's not much of an issue.
The person gets the chance to be brainwashed and is forced to completely abandon anything that happens to be left of the person he/she once was.
And assimilating people doesn't make them a species, any more than the Borg are.
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Yeah, but what if there were Kobali Kobali? They would use dead Kobali to fill in their society...
And then there would Kobali Kobali Kobali, would use dead Kobali Kobali to fill in their society...
Ad infinitum.
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Well, Jeffery Combs has played a few Star Trek characters as well as Herbert West, soooooo...
But, on topic, I would have to say it's a one-shot deal; once it's done, it can't be done again. No Kobali-Inception.
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That way people have a corpse to mourn without it being "desecrated" and the Kobali have a cadaver to inhabit and animate. In many ways it would be done in a similar way to organ donation scheme.
Of course, it has never been established that Star Trek has an afterlife. Unless you believe Q in TNG: Tapestry, when he said "You're dead, this is the afterlife, and I'm God."
Imagine Einstein having his second life, what would he come up with?
I'm all for Cobalification... XD
They just get less sober.
It's an interesting idea that they need to reproduce this way, what with it being the result of an accident or whatever in the past. It opens up all sort of moral questions and that's what trek has always been good at.
Is it right to use other people's dead to further your own population, when being without such methods leaves you to die out as a race.
Using the Vadwaur in suspended animation was a bit iffy though, they really should have just given them up and avoided the war, or at least taken the moral high ground. There is a big difference between pickup up dead bodies in space and holding crying-pods full of living creatures hostage waiting for them to die off.
We might not like it but it's at least better than the Borg who don't even wait until you're dead before taking you.
I still don't see why KDF players don't get the option to nuke the entire world from orbit.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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He'd surely come up with some great stuff for the good of humanity ... shortly before a bunch of greedy idiots claim his researches as their own and use them to develop a new weapon to make themselves rich, that is.
"Waiting until you're dead" doesn't mean anything when they resurrect you anyway. You're going to the alive for the whole brainwashing thing either way. It's really worse than the Borg. Borg can be disconnected and retain their original mind.
And even with this, they're not as bad as the Deferi.
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True.
But I don't see a moral issue; It's the survival of a species.
They don't go on a killing spree to get new members and the person gets the chance of living a new life after dying and doesn't completely loose the person he/she once was.
The only issue I can see is that they don't exactly ask if the person wants to live again, but considering they have free will afterwards and that most people don't want to die in the first place, it's not much of an issue.
And assimilating people doesn't make them a species, any more than the Borg are.