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Nitpick: Adm. Quinn is an Species 8472

anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
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So it's confirmed: Admiral Quinn is a Species 8472...

I am currently playing Surface tension, and Quinn tries to convince me that I reported to him after Vega... My character never went to Vega.

Yea it's a nitpick, but still... Quinn should know?

I've pretty much just been F-mashing my way through missions, but have others found similar funny coincidences?
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    anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    azrael605 wrote: »
    Your 23rd century character replaces a young officer who never returned from Vega.

    Is this your personal head-canon or..? Because I don't remember that conversation.

    Edit: Sorry, that kinda came out wrong... I've had a few beers and probably shouldn forum... Read the above with an extremely positive agenda.
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    Let me put the rumors to rest: it's definitely still the C-Store (Cryptic Store) It just takes ZEN.
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    spacehermitspacehermit Member Posts: 355 Arc User
    My 23rd century character was complimented on getting his first command by facing up to the Borg.
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    saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 4,390 Arc User
    Most likely in-universe reason: your character replaces a captain who faced the Borg but got their ship lost with all hands due to Na'kuhl interference, disrupting the timeline. Starfleet doesn't know that because Daniels "tricked" the timeline by having you replace this captain.

    Most likely out-of-universe reason: The devs forgot some faction-related dialogues when making AoY, like this one.
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    anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    saurializard wrote: »
    Most likely in-universe reason: your character replaces a captain who faced the Borg but got their ship lost with all hands due to Na'kuhl interference, disrupting the timeline. Starfleet doesn't know that because Daniels "tricked" the timeline by having you replace this captain.

    I could, buy that... I really could... But... I flew a 23'd century starship...

    We have to remove Quinn everyone.
    Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
    pwebranflakes wrote: »
    Let me put the rumors to rest: it's definitely still the C-Store (Cryptic Store) It just takes ZEN.
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    anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    azrael605 wrote: »
    What saurializard said is basically what I meant. As for the ship, Daniels does tell you your ship was destroyed in the cutscene.

    I did not deny that... But I also asked if this was actually mentioned... ?
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    pwebranflakes wrote: »
    Let me put the rumors to rest: it's definitely still the C-Store (Cryptic Store) It just takes ZEN.
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    legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan
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    edited July 2016
    it's a massive game...they can't account for EVERY piece of dialogue - hell, i was actually surprised when one of the dialogue choices i had with walker during Stormbound referred to my AoY character as a temporal agent

    or was it Time and Tide? i don't recall; it was one of those two​​
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    officerbatman81officerbatman81 Member Posts: 2,761 Arc User
    And what about Admiral Quinn doing a klingon impression in front of the 23c fed? It was hilarious and racist to me at the same time. It was tantamount to a white person doing an over the top black person impression.
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    davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,512 Arc User
    It's mentioned (and very obvious) that Daniels has set you up as a 25th century officer. A 25th century officer with a history, else you would not get the 25th C promotion as soon as you did.

    It should not be necessary for the devs to have a scene recounting your 25th C false history. You can assume it includes fighting the Borg -- Vak'el Shon says so too when you meet him on DS9 in the Cardassian arc.
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    davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,512 Arc User
    ... unless HE'S AN UNDINE TOO!!!!!!! eek!
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    iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    I'm not saying it's Iconians, but we might just be dealing with the machinations of the Demons of Air and Darkness.​​
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    jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,365 Arc User
    What's-her-face, the commander of RRW Lliasek, commented on how I got my first command after facing the Borg, so either we're in fact outnumbered by the Undine infiltrators (shades of the Far Side cartoon with all the wolves taking off their wool disguises, "What the - isn't anyone here a sheep?"), or that's all from a falsified report Daniels put into the system (in which case I must commend the Romulan Republic's intelligence service).​​
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    dareaudareau Member Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    Daniels: "We went ahead and gave you a "history" in the 25th century. Now go get changed before you meet the Admiral".

    Instigator Kills'em'all: so, what's my new history?

    Daniels...


    Temporal Log, Instigator Kills'em'all: Shon and Quinn both keep speaking to me about killing Borg on Vega. I had no clue as to what they speak until I booted up an ancient simulator called "Star Trek Online" in the holodeck and played the "regular" federation tutorial. Then it all matched up, the incidents in that tutorial is what "made" my history...
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    farmallmfarmallm Member Posts: 4,630 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    Just shows they didn't go through it with a fine tooth comb. To make sure your AOY really fits in. This goes back to my argument over how a good portion of story writing is horrible.
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    starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    saurializard wrote: »
    Most likely in-universe reason: your character replaces a captain who faced the Borg but got their ship lost with all hands due to Na'kuhl interference, disrupting the timeline. Starfleet doesn't know that because Daniels "tricked" the timeline by having you replace this captain.

    Most likely out-of-universe reason: The devs forgot some faction-related dialogues when making AoY, like this one.

    Or Daniels just used his 31st Century magic on Starfleet records to add you in at Vega and create a false identity. There is absolutely no need to replace a Captain that died at Vega.
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    davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,512 Arc User
    farmallm wrote: »
    Just shows they didn't go through it with a fine tooth comb. To make sure your AOY really fits in. This goes back to my argument over how a good portion of story writing is horrible.

    No, they just didn't add an extra screen of text after explaining you would be 25th C starfleet, to spoon feed you your new bio. The later episodes are fine as they are.

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    jade1280jade1280 Member Posts: 868 Arc User
    AoY characters never went to Vega but shhhh no one is supposed to notice that AoY characters are just federation rehash's
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    annemarie30annemarie30 Member Posts: 2,598 Arc User
    officerbatman81 wrote: »
    And what about Admiral Quinn doing a klingon impression in front of the 23c fed? It was hilarious and racist to me at the same time. It was tantamount to a white person doing an over the top black person impression.

    do you mean when he sounded like J'mpok? yeah he did that when I hit Commander
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    markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,231 Arc User
    davefenestrator wrote: »
    farmallm wrote: »
    Just shows they didn't go through it with a fine tooth comb. To make sure your AOY really fits in. This goes back to my argument over how a good portion of story writing is horrible.
    No, they just didn't add an extra screen of text after explaining you would be 25th C starfleet, to spoon feed you your new bio. The later episodes are fine as they are.
    I think the devs did this so that players are free to RP their cover story as they see fit.
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    cptjhuntercptjhunter Member Posts: 2,288 Arc User

    anazonda wrote: »

    I could, buy that... I really could... But... I flew a 23'd century starship...

    We have to remove Quinn everyone.
    I've been with you for years on this topic. I don't buy his BS either,
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    seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,918 Arc User
    spacehermit wrote: »
    My 23rd century character was complimented on getting his first command by facing up to the Borg.

    I thought this was funny too.. Romulan commander compliments me on the way I 'stood up to the Borg.' My Temporal Agent has no earthly idea what a Borg even is at this point. :)
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    evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,950 Arc User
    seaofsorrows wrote: »
    spacehermit wrote: »
    My 23rd century character was complimented on getting his first command by facing up to the Borg.

    I thought this was funny too.. Romulan commander compliments me on the way I 'stood up to the Borg.' My Temporal Agent has no earthly idea what a Borg even is at this point. :)

    This one had me rolling too
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    legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan
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    seaofsorrows wrote: »
    spacehermit wrote: »
    My 23rd century character was complimented on getting his first command by facing up to the Borg.

    I thought this was funny too.. Romulan commander compliments me on the way I 'stood up to the Borg.' My Temporal Agent has no earthly idea what a Borg even is at this point. :)

    actually...s/he would, since daniels puts the player's character through an accelerated training course at the end of caleb 4 to bring them up to snuff for operation in the 25th century - and one of those things would include knowledge on all of 25c starfleet's enemies, including the borg​​
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    seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,918 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    shadowfang240 wrote: »
    seaofsorrows wrote: »
    spacehermit wrote: »
    My 23rd century character was complimented on getting his first command by facing up to the Borg.

    I thought this was funny too.. Romulan commander compliments me on the way I 'stood up to the Borg.' My Temporal Agent has no earthly idea what a Borg even is at this point. :)

    actually...s/he would, since daniels puts the player's character through an accelerated training course at the end of caleb 4 to bring them up to snuff for operation in the 25th century - and one of those things would include knowledge on all of 25c starfleet's enemies, including the borg​​

    Fair enough, maybe she's heard of the Borg. But Jarok tells her that she's aware of who she is because of the way she 'stood up to the Borg.' This is, of course, in reference to the stand off with the Borg that normally takes place in the Fed Tutorial which Temporal Recruits do not do.

    So while my Temporal Recruit might know what a Borg is, she's never actually faced one at that point in the story, much less 'stood up' to them.
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    xyquarzexyquarze Member Posts: 2,114 Arc User
    farmallm wrote: »
    Just shows they didn't go through it with a fine tooth comb. To make sure your AOY really fits in. This goes back to my argument over how a good portion of story writing is horrible.

    Almost every (if not literally every) movie has inconsistencies in how people are addressed, what people wear, how long candles burn etc. These are mistakes that should be avoided but always happen. That are movies which tell a predetermined linear story. Computer games often should account foir non linear elements, possibilities of short cuts etc., so they need to think of even more. Games which get changed will have even more problems. So yeah, oversights like that do happen, no matter how fine your comb. Two or five instances of inconsistency don't really prove "horrible writing". (Nor does that mean it always has to be "good writing")
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