actually, for a period after LoR, an NPC klingon ship DID have some form of stasis weapon, but it was the vor'cha, not a D7...and it was removed for some unknown reason at some point afterwards
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
I would be honored if a dev/manager/pwe employee would comment on the thread.
My understanding - limited and lacking as it may be - is that a Dev had already responded to this question in one of those "semi-official" Podcast Interviews (non-transcribed, of course, so you have to go listen to two hours of stuff to find the one-liner you want).
And that the AoY expansion is being given the "Cryptic Decided Feel" to TOS - not a "purely canon" one. Explains away the "gameplay concepts" of, say, female captains and personal shields in eras that didn't have either...
But then again, as part of that, said Dev also mentioned that they weren't keen on counting TAS as part of the "TOS Continuity they felt like homaging" in AoY. Hence it's exclusion, despite the semi-commonly held belief that TAS = TOS Seasons 4&5...
Detecting big-time "anti-old-school" bias here. NX? Lobi. TOS/TMP Connie? Super-promotion-box. (aka the two hardest ways to get ships) Excelsior & all 3 TNG "big hero" ships? C-Store. Please Equalize...
To rob a line: [quote: Mariemaia Kushrenada] Forum Posting is much like an endless waltz. The three beats of war, peace and revolution continue on forever. However, opinions will change upon the reading of my post.[/quote]
I would be honored if a dev/manager/pwe employee would comment on the thread.
My understanding - limited and lacking as it may be - is that a Dev had already responded to this question in one of those "semi-official" Podcast Interviews (non-transcribed, of course, so you have to go listen to two hours of stuff to find the one-liner you want).
And that the AoY expansion is being given the "Cryptic Decided Feel" to TOS - not a "purely canon" one. Explains away the "gameplay concepts" of, say, female captains and personal shields in eras that didn't have either...
But then again, as part of that, said Dev also mentioned that they weren't keen on counting TAS as part of the "TOS Continuity they felt like homaging" in AoY. Hence it's exclusion, despite the semi-commonly held belief that TAS = TOS Seasons 4&5...
Because locking female characters out of being playable would be a genius marketing move that certainly wouldn't backfire on them at any point. Plus the fact that just because no female captains were seen in TOS does not mean they didn't exist since TOS takes place entirely on one ship.
I believe the issue with the purple Klingon uniforms, pink Tribbles, and Kzinti uniforms being purple, stems from one of the artists back then being colorblind.
Only thing passable that was messed up was pink tribbles. I mean we got candy striped ones and one with a little drink umbrella, so a pink one isn't that far fetched. Also @rattler2 there is a link in my essay to a website with the TAS episodes on it.
The only thing I want to critique on the OP's message is that we HAVE the Kzinti, they're called Ferasan here
According to memory alpha, the Kzinti sent out colony ships. One landed near the Klingon space and the decedents evolved into the Ferasan. The others landed closer to Federation space and there decedents evolved into the Caitians. They are both descendants of the Kzinti.
actually, for a period after LoR, an NPC klingon ship DID have some form of stasis weapon, but it was the vor'cha, not a D7...and it was removed for some unknown reason at some point afterwards
Then it sounds like it would be a kind gesture on Cryptics part to add it on a D7 and give it to the Klingons.
I love how people here are reaching out and supporting the TAS! I did not know there were so many people that love it! #TASforSTO
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No. They should round up every copy of that abomination, dump it into a pit and burn it. Repeatedly.
Good luck with that, they are releasing it on Blu-ray this Xmas.
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No. They should round up every copy of that abomination, dump it into a pit and burn it. Repeatedly.
Good luck with that, they are releasing it on Blu-ray this Xmas.
YES!!! YES!!!
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I believe the issue with the purple Klingon uniforms, pink Tribbles, and Kzinti uniforms being purple, stems from one of the artists back then being colorblind.
While I have not seen TAS myself, there are many things I can see being added.
Caitian hair ala M'Ress
Aquashuttle (Maybe as a TOS era counterpart to the Yellowstone Runabout)
More species
A couple new ships
As for the addition of the Edoans like Arex... I think it might be possible now after the revamp the Undine had. However as a playable species I don't see it happening. When we get polymorphed into Undine by Q, its still rather stiff and not all of our animations work because technically they just overlayed the Undine Model and leg movement over our biped characters. We as players do not have full access to all the Undine animations.
It wasn't just one of the artists, it was Hal Sutherland, the director of most of the first season episodes.
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I'd be happy to see bits of TAS included. We've already got the Kelvin Timeline incoming with its various inconsistencies; what's the big deal over adding content from our native (from STO's perspective) timeline/universe?
With each passing day I wonder if I stepped into an alternate reality. The Cubs win the world series. Donald Trump is President. Britain leaves the EU. STO gets a dedicated PvP season. Engineers are "out of control" in STO.
I'd be happy to see bits of TAS included. We've already got the Kelvin Timeline incoming with its various inconsistencies; what's the big deal over adding content from our native (from STO's perspective) timeline/universe?
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Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
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'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
I would be honored if a dev/manager/pwe employee would comment on the thread.
My understanding - limited and lacking as it may be - is that a Dev had already responded to this question in one of those "semi-official" Podcast Interviews (non-transcribed, of course, so you have to go listen to two hours of stuff to find the one-liner you want).
And that the AoY expansion is being given the "Cryptic Decided Feel" to TOS - not a "purely canon" one. Explains away the "gameplay concepts" of, say, female captains and personal shields in eras that didn't have either...
But then again, as part of that, said Dev also mentioned that they weren't keen on counting TAS as part of the "TOS Continuity they felt like homaging" in AoY. Hence it's exclusion, despite the semi-commonly held belief that TAS = TOS Seasons 4&5...
Because locking female characters out of being playable would be a genius marketing move that certainly wouldn't backfire on them at any point. Plus the fact that just because no female captains were seen in TOS does not mean they didn't exist since TOS takes place entirely on one ship.
It was explicitly spelt out in the final episode that Kirk's 'world of Starship captains doesn't admit women'. Luckily though, there's hardly anything left from TOS that hasn't later been retconned, but as AoY is focused on TOS, and not retcons of TOS, there should only be male captains. This is only going by the Devs 'logic' by the way. The same logic that excludes Caitians from TAS but allows Tellarites despite no Tellarite ever been seen in a Starfleet uniform in the history of Star Trek, including TOS.
actually, for a period after LoR, an NPC klingon ship DID have some form of stasis weapon, but it was the vor'cha, not a D7...and it was removed for some unknown reason at some point afterwards
Going by screenshots from the Art subforum the D7 has been revamped and remastered. So I'm hoping that a joint Rom/Klingon C-Store D7 with statis weapon will be available...
...who am I kidding. There's zero chance Romulans and Klingons will ever get ships outside of a three-pack now.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
It was explicitly spelt out in the final episode that Kirk's 'world of Starship captains doesn't admit women'. Luckily though, there's hardly anything left from TOS that hasn't later been retconned, but as AoY is focused on TOS, and not retcons of TOS, there should only be male captains. This is only going by the Devs 'logic' by the way. The same logic that excludes Caitians from TAS but allows Tellarites despite no Tellarite ever been seen in a Starfleet uniform in the history of Star Trek, including TOS.
Only times in the "TOS" (TOS pilot episode to Undiscovered Country) that a female took command of the ship was in the pilot of TOS when Pike gets abducted, and when all the men were incapacitated in the TAS and Uhura by line of succession took command.
Going by screenshots from the Art subforum the D7 has been revamped and remastered. So I'm hoping that a joint Rom/Klingon C-Store D7 with statis weapon will be available...
...who am I kidding. There's zero chance Romulans and Klingons will ever get ships outside of a three-pack now.
It is a really good though, and possibly Cryptic might do that.
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It was explicitly spelt out in the final episode that Kirk's 'world of Starship captains doesn't admit women'. Luckily though, there's hardly anything left from TOS that hasn't later been retconned, but as AoY is focused on TOS, and not retcons of TOS, there should only be male captains. This is only going by the Devs 'logic' by the way. The same logic that excludes Caitians from TAS but allows Tellarites despite no Tellarite ever been seen in a Starfleet uniform in the history of Star Trek, including TOS.
Only times in the "TOS" (TOS pilot episode to Undiscovered Country) that a female took command of the ship was in the pilot of TOS when Pike gets abducted, and when all the men were incapacitated in the TAS and Uhura by line of succession took command.
Going by screenshots from the Art subforum the D7 has been revamped and remastered. So I'm hoping that a joint Rom/Klingon C-Store D7 with statis weapon will be available...
...who am I kidding. There's zero chance Romulans and Klingons will ever get ships outside of a three-pack now.
It is a really good though, and possibly Cryptic might do that.
I am eternally hopeful. So for from tribble I've seen the Orion Interceptor from Bable, a heavy Romulan BoP, a Klingon D10, a Klingon D5 raptor (not the one from ENT), a Klingon TOS BoP, a Gorn frigate, a Gorn destroyer (from Arena), and the revamped D7 (Klingon and Romulan version).
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
Op idk what you were trying to convey, i seen a wall of text and just went meh
as far as the title of the thread , i think theres room within the sto universe for TAS stuff, we already have caitains they were from tas if i remember right.
so why not add some tas stuff to this new fed tos faction , after all tas is just the continuation of TOS just animated.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
It was explicitly spelt out in the final episode that Kirk's 'world of Starship captains doesn't admit women'. Luckily though, there's hardly anything left from TOS that hasn't later been retconned, but as AoY is focused on TOS, and not retcons of TOS, there should only be male captains. This is only going by the Devs 'logic' by the way. The same logic that excludes Caitians from TAS but allows Tellarites despite no Tellarite ever been seen in a Starfleet uniform in the history of Star Trek, including TOS.
Only times in the "TOS" (TOS pilot episode to Undiscovered Country) that a female took command of the ship was in the pilot of TOS when Pike gets abducted, and when all the men were incapacitated in the TAS and Uhura by line of succession took command.
Going by screenshots from the Art subforum the D7 has been revamped and remastered. So I'm hoping that a joint Rom/Klingon C-Store D7 with statis weapon will be available...
...who am I kidding. There's zero chance Romulans and Klingons will ever get ships outside of a three-pack now.
It is a really good though, and possibly Cryptic might do that.
I am eternally hopeful. So for from tribble I've seen the Orion Interceptor from Bable, a heavy Romulan BoP, a Klingon D10, a Klingon D5 raptor (not the one from ENT), a Klingon TOS BoP, a Gorn frigate, a Gorn destroyer (from Arena), and the revamped D7 (Klingon and Romulan version).
When did they put those on tribble? I haven't seen them. *gasp* We might get a TAS D7, it sounds great.
Op idk what you were trying to convey, i seen a wall of text and just went meh
as far as the title of the thread , i think theres room within the sto universe for TAS stuff, we already have caitains they were from tas if i remember right.
so why not add some tas stuff to this new fed tos faction , after all tas is just the continuation of TOS just animated.
That is exactly what I said, I just wrote all of that into a essay because I wanted to not be like the average poster and write my idea with opinion. I grabbed hard fact, annotated where I was unsure, and poured my heart out to make the point in a clear and logical way. So far, it has received more than an overwhelming response of positive feedback and support for this last element of Star Trek canon.
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It was explicitly spelt out in the final episode that Kirk's 'world of Starship captains doesn't admit women'. Luckily though, there's hardly anything left from TOS that hasn't later been retconned, but as AoY is focused on TOS, and not retcons of TOS, there should only be male captains. This is only going by the Devs 'logic' by the way. The same logic that excludes Caitians from TAS but allows Tellarites despite no Tellarite ever been seen in a Starfleet uniform in the history of Star Trek, including TOS.
Only times in the "TOS" (TOS pilot episode to Undiscovered Country) that a female took command of the ship was in the pilot of TOS when Pike gets abducted, and when all the men were incapacitated in the TAS and Uhura by line of succession took command.
Going by screenshots from the Art subforum the D7 has been revamped and remastered. So I'm hoping that a joint Rom/Klingon C-Store D7 with statis weapon will be available...
...who am I kidding. There's zero chance Romulans and Klingons will ever get ships outside of a three-pack now.
It is a really good though, and possibly Cryptic might do that.
I am eternally hopeful. So for from tribble I've seen the Orion Interceptor from Bable, a heavy Romulan BoP, a Klingon D10, a Klingon D5 raptor (not the one from ENT), a Klingon TOS BoP, a Gorn frigate, a Gorn destroyer (from Arena), and the revamped D7 (Klingon and Romulan version).
When did they put those on tribble? I haven't seen them. *gasp* We might get a TAS D7, it sounds great.
I say, seen on Tribble. I mean I've seen pictures. Starting from this page (about halfway down) user @kurumimorishita has been posting marvolous screenshots of AoY. All the ships I mentioned are there except the TOS BoP, D5, and the D'D style T'liss. I saw those on @yuzral youtube channel (here) on the Tribble Timewarp series.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
It was explicitly spelt out in the final episode that Kirk's 'world of Starship captains doesn't admit women'. Luckily though, there's hardly anything left from TOS that hasn't later been retconned, but as AoY is focused on TOS, and not retcons of TOS, there should only be male captains. This is only going by the Devs 'logic' by the way. The same logic that excludes Caitians from TAS but allows Tellarites despite no Tellarite ever been seen in a Starfleet uniform in the history of Star Trek, including TOS.
Only times in the "TOS" (TOS pilot episode to Undiscovered Country) that a female took command of the ship was in the pilot of TOS when Pike gets abducted, and when all the men were incapacitated in the TAS and Uhura by line of succession took command.
Going by screenshots from the Art subforum the D7 has been revamped and remastered. So I'm hoping that a joint Rom/Klingon C-Store D7 with statis weapon will be available...
...who am I kidding. There's zero chance Romulans and Klingons will ever get ships outside of a three-pack now.
It is a really good though, and possibly Cryptic might do that.
I am eternally hopeful. So for from tribble I've seen the Orion Interceptor from Bable, a heavy Romulan BoP, a Klingon D10, a Klingon D5 raptor (not the one from ENT), a Klingon TOS BoP, a Gorn frigate, a Gorn destroyer (from Arena), and the revamped D7 (Klingon and Romulan version).
When did they put those on tribble? I haven't seen them. *gasp* We might get a TAS D7, it sounds great.
I say, seen on Tribble. I mean I've seen pictures. Starting from this page (about halfway down) user @kurumimorishita has been posting marvolous screenshots of AoY. All the ships I mentioned are there except the TOS BoP, D5, and the D'D style T'liss. I saw those on @yuzral youtube channel (here) on the Tribble Timewarp series.
I think Cryptic might be adding some TAS in, but over all, they need to make it a little more prominent.
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It was explicitly spelt out in the final episode that Kirk's 'world of Starship captains doesn't admit women'. Luckily though, there's hardly anything left from TOS that hasn't later been retconned, but as AoY is focused on TOS, and not retcons of TOS, there should only be male captains. This is only going by the Devs 'logic' by the way. The same logic that excludes Caitians from TAS but allows Tellarites despite no Tellarite ever been seen in a Starfleet uniform in the history of Star Trek, including TOS.
Only times in the "TOS" (TOS pilot episode to Undiscovered Country) that a female took command of the ship was in the pilot of TOS when Pike gets abducted, and when all the men were incapacitated in the TAS and Uhura by line of succession took command.
Going by screenshots from the Art subforum the D7 has been revamped and remastered. So I'm hoping that a joint Rom/Klingon C-Store D7 with statis weapon will be available...
...who am I kidding. There's zero chance Romulans and Klingons will ever get ships outside of a three-pack now.
It is a really good though, and possibly Cryptic might do that.
I am eternally hopeful. So for from tribble I've seen the Orion Interceptor from Bable, a heavy Romulan BoP, a Klingon D10, a Klingon D5 raptor (not the one from ENT), a Klingon TOS BoP, a Gorn frigate, a Gorn destroyer (from Arena), and the revamped D7 (Klingon and Romulan version).
When did they put those on tribble? I haven't seen them. *gasp* We might get a TAS D7, it sounds great.
I say, seen on Tribble. I mean I've seen pictures. Starting from this page (about halfway down) user @kurumimorishita has been posting marvolous screenshots of AoY. All the ships I mentioned are there except the TOS BoP, D5, and the D'D style T'liss. I saw those on @yuzral youtube channel (here) on the Tribble Timewarp series.
At the very least we could get skins.
And now that I think on it, wasn't the D7 used in the last Devidian mission? At least a hologram version of it?
And now that I think on it, wasn't the D7 used in the last Devidian mission? At least a hologram version of it?
If they just sold TAS ship costumes, that would be nice. And the D7 in the mission was authentic if you play it Klingon, but hologram if your fed.
I wonder what @tacofangs thinks about adding in Star Trek: The Animated Series content.
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Isnt Taco mostly environment? I doubt he has too strong an opinion either way on TAS stuff if thats the case
Still a employee who could take word back to other dev's.
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I'm a huge TAS fan myself and would love to see more in sto.
One thing I will toss out in regard to the discussion on Niven is this bit from memory alpha:
"It has been recently disclosed that if Star Trek: Enterprise had been renewed for a fifth season, Manny Coto wanted to do a Kzinti episode. Much of the concept for the episode "Kilkenny Cats" (which was based on a story by Neal and Jana Hallford) was to draw from the earlier concept Star Trek: Lions of the Night by Jimmy Diggs. D.C. Fontana and André Bormanis were also involved in the editing of the script."
So Manny Coto thought the ownership difficulties were not insurmountable. Jimmy Diggs also got both Niven and the Roddenbery estate to approve a kzinti project that didn't end up manifesting. Because of this I hold the belief Niven is not opposed to kzinti in Trek.
it probably helped that manny coto likely swore on every possible thing one can swear on that THIS time, CBS wouldn't be stupid enough to hire a partially-colorblind whoever without finding out if said person is colorblind until AFTER the fact
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
It was explicitly spelt out in the final episode that Kirk's 'world of Starship captains doesn't admit women'.
That was "explicitly spelled out" by a woman who was suffering from a psychotic persecution complex, and who likely was rejected from command training due to psychological instability rather than gender. It's the only time such a concept was even mentioned.
Meanwhile, ST:TNG explicitly showed us female starship commanders, including one who was in charge of a Galaxy-class ship (in the episode with the neural parasites).
It was explicitly spelt out in the final episode that Kirk's 'world of Starship captains doesn't admit women'.
That was "explicitly spelled out" by a woman who was suffering from a psychotic persecution complex, and who likely was rejected from command training due to psychological instability rather than gender. It's the only time such a concept was even mentioned.
Meanwhile, ST:TNG explicitly showed us female starship commanders, including one who was in charge of a Galaxy-class ship (in the episode with the neural parasites).
The episode never says why she was rejected for anything and Kirk was certainly going along with her. It can be argued that he was just playing along, but considering the tone of TOS, the implication that the surface text is literal is more likely.
And yes, I know TNG showed us female commanders, one of the TOS films did as well, as did eNT. I did say it was later retconned.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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actually, for a period after LoR, an NPC klingon ship DID have some form of stasis weapon, but it was the vor'cha, not a D7...and it was removed for some unknown reason at some point afterwards
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My understanding - limited and lacking as it may be - is that a Dev had already responded to this question in one of those "semi-official" Podcast Interviews (non-transcribed, of course, so you have to go listen to two hours of stuff to find the one-liner you want).
And that the AoY expansion is being given the "Cryptic Decided Feel" to TOS - not a "purely canon" one. Explains away the "gameplay concepts" of, say, female captains and personal shields in eras that didn't have either...
But then again, as part of that, said Dev also mentioned that they weren't keen on counting TAS as part of the "TOS Continuity they felt like homaging" in AoY. Hence it's exclusion, despite the semi-commonly held belief that TAS = TOS Seasons 4&5...
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Because locking female characters out of being playable would be a genius marketing move that certainly wouldn't backfire on them at any point.
Only thing passable that was messed up was pink tribbles. I mean we got candy striped ones and one with a little drink umbrella, so a pink one isn't that far fetched. Also @rattler2 there is a link in my essay to a website with the TAS episodes on it.
According to memory alpha, the Kzinti sent out colony ships. One landed near the Klingon space and the decedents evolved into the Ferasan. The others landed closer to Federation space and there decedents evolved into the Caitians. They are both descendants of the Kzinti.
Agreed! HELL YA TAS!!!!
Then it sounds like it would be a kind gesture on Cryptics part to add it on a D7 and give it to the Klingons.
I love how people here are reaching out and supporting the TAS! I did not know there were so many people that love it! #TASforSTO
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Good luck with that, they are releasing it on Blu-ray this Xmas.
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YES!!! YES!!!
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It wasn't just one of the artists, it was Hal Sutherland, the director of most of the first season episodes.
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I've also wondered how adaptable the Undine animation would be for an Edoan?
Aww, thanks crashdragon
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
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'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
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It was explicitly spelt out in the final episode that Kirk's 'world of Starship captains doesn't admit women'. Luckily though, there's hardly anything left from TOS that hasn't later been retconned, but as AoY is focused on TOS, and not retcons of TOS, there should only be male captains. This is only going by the Devs 'logic' by the way. The same logic that excludes Caitians from TAS but allows Tellarites despite no Tellarite ever been seen in a Starfleet uniform in the history of Star Trek, including TOS.
Going by screenshots from the Art subforum the D7 has been revamped and remastered. So I'm hoping that a joint Rom/Klingon C-Store D7 with statis weapon will be available...
...who am I kidding. There's zero chance Romulans and Klingons will ever get ships outside of a three-pack now.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
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'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
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Only times in the "TOS" (TOS pilot episode to Undiscovered Country) that a female took command of the ship was in the pilot of TOS when Pike gets abducted, and when all the men were incapacitated in the TAS and Uhura by line of succession took command.
It is a really good though, and possibly Cryptic might do that.
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I am eternally hopeful. So for from tribble I've seen the Orion Interceptor from Bable, a heavy Romulan BoP, a Klingon D10, a Klingon D5 raptor (not the one from ENT), a Klingon TOS BoP, a Gorn frigate, a Gorn destroyer (from Arena), and the revamped D7 (Klingon and Romulan version).
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
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as far as the title of the thread , i think theres room within the sto universe for TAS stuff, we already have caitains they were from tas if i remember right.
so why not add some tas stuff to this new fed tos faction , after all tas is just the continuation of TOS just animated.
My just mean what?
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
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'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
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When did they put those on tribble? I haven't seen them. *gasp* We might get a TAS D7, it sounds great.
That is exactly what I said, I just wrote all of that into a essay because I wanted to not be like the average poster and write my idea with opinion. I grabbed hard fact, annotated where I was unsure, and poured my heart out to make the point in a clear and logical way. So far, it has received more than an overwhelming response of positive feedback and support for this last element of Star Trek canon.
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I say, seen on Tribble. I mean I've seen pictures. Starting from this page (about halfway down) user @kurumimorishita has been posting marvolous screenshots of AoY. All the ships I mentioned are there except the TOS BoP, D5, and the D'D style T'liss. I saw those on @yuzral youtube channel (here) on the Tribble Timewarp series.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
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'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
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I think Cryptic might be adding some TAS in, but over all, they need to make it a little more prominent.
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At the very least we could get skins.
And now that I think on it, wasn't the D7 used in the last Devidian mission? At least a hologram version of it?
If they just sold TAS ship costumes, that would be nice. And the D7 in the mission was authentic if you play it Klingon, but hologram if your fed.
I wonder what @tacofangs thinks about adding in Star Trek: The Animated Series content.
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Still a employee who could take word back to other dev's.
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One thing I will toss out in regard to the discussion on Niven is this bit from memory alpha:
"It has been recently disclosed that if Star Trek: Enterprise had been renewed for a fifth season, Manny Coto wanted to do a Kzinti episode. Much of the concept for the episode "Kilkenny Cats" (which was based on a story by Neal and Jana Hallford) was to draw from the earlier concept Star Trek: Lions of the Night by Jimmy Diggs. D.C. Fontana and André Bormanis were also involved in the editing of the script."
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Kzinti
So Manny Coto thought the ownership difficulties were not insurmountable. Jimmy Diggs also got both Niven and the Roddenbery estate to approve a kzinti project that didn't end up manifesting. Because of this I hold the belief Niven is not opposed to kzinti in Trek.
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"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Meanwhile, ST:TNG explicitly showed us female starship commanders, including one who was in charge of a Galaxy-class ship (in the episode with the neural parasites).
The episode never says why she was rejected for anything and Kirk was certainly going along with her. It can be argued that he was just playing along, but considering the tone of TOS, the implication that the surface text is literal is more likely.
And yes, I know TNG showed us female commanders, one of the TOS films did as well, as did eNT. I did say it was later retconned.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
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'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
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