i'm disappointed in the decision to go with the TOS as an additional faction, when they are more deserving species that should be introduced. Tholians, Cardassians, Breen, Ferengi, Dominion to name a few. Star Trek is rich with alien cultures but we are revisiting existing species from a different timeline already in the game ?.
The Federation, Klingons and Romulans are already in the game, introducing them as an earlier faction to then simply join into the existing status quo doesn't wet my appetite. Sure new story lines and new ships. (Still waiting for the Tier 6 Sovereign and others). But how does a TOS ship from the 2260's fit into 2410 ?.
Ok so all of the species i mentioned have had lockbox ships released which if thats the negating factor on introducing these Species as independent factions then in hindsight it was a bad decision. However it is more likely 2 factors that determined the content we are getting.
1. Limitation of the game engine and like the Romulans any new faction will be bound to the Feds/KDF.
2. Not wanting to have to create content and upkeep another faction. the Roms and KDF already are all but abandoned. All recent new FE have been cross faction.
I'm not for stopping TOS fans from enjoying part of Star Trek they enjoy, but from what i've seen so far i'm not overly excited by it.
I just hope any new end game content they introduce to the PvE queues captures the enjoyment of the old borg ones where the content is free flowing rather than filled with pitstops like Gates of Gre'thor, Counterpoint ect.
this is how i see it , i really dont need another ALT to play , my delta barely is used , the way the state of the game plays is that you can barely afford to get one toon to compete at end game levels , getting your gear upgraded on more than one toon is painful at best , the game META doesnt support it . if you dont care about the end game dps content then more alts dont effect you , i already have like 6 alts due to the size of my fleets SBs one in each separate SB .
now while im all for the TOS content , im not happy about having to create a ALT to truly experience the expansion . new players may not have the same feelings that players that have been playing a long time
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Ok so all of the species i mentioned have had lockbox ships released which if thats the negating factor on introducing these Species as independent factions then in hindsight it was a bad decision
Breen are actually the Winter Event. Dominion and Tholians have pretty much had their ENTIRE fleet given away in lockboxes. What Ferengi fleet as we've only ever seen one ship, and the Cryptic designed Nandi doesn't seem to be flying much these days. Cardassians, while an apparent fan favorite, had their most iconic ship in the first lockbox.
Sure new story lines and new ships. (Still waiting for the Tier 6 Sovereign and others). But how does a TOS ship from the 2260's fit into 2410 ?.
I'm saving up for the eventual T6 Sovereign myself. Gotta refit the Lexington again. As to a TOS ship in 2410... I guess we'll find out when the expansion goes live.
First off, I am all for Cryptic making money. I was perfectly happy paying 15 dollars a month when this game came out, not to mention I pre-ordered collectors edition, so I have been playing off and on since beta.
I love Star Trek and I want this game to continue to do great things, and it has. I do however feel like this is yet another sad content push.
I hate the damn skill system, sorry I do even though it pushed some of my space traits over the top. I hate the removal of the crew stat from Space combat mechanics.
What I find most of all disappointing is that, they could have instead of coming out with some retro throw back to the messed up Rick Breeman show killer time travel TRIBBLE known as "Enterprise" they could have made a dynamic ever expanding map of exploration.
Image if you could assue the role of StarFleet and go boldly explore new systems, new worlds, and new challenges. Not this canned pick 3 missions, but a dynamic random generator that just keeps making map instances with big vibrant worlds and problems. I believe it can be done, and I would have been excited by something like that, as after all that is What Star Trek starts out with "Space the Final Froniter...."
I would happily shell out 19.95 or 129.95 for that, or 15.00 a month, or what ever so I could go, even if I had to roll a new toon and actually explore space, meet new alien life forms and help them or conquerer and kill them if you're a Klingon.
that to me would have been the "better option" in my Humble opinon.
Just my thoughts.. love them or hate them.
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Hi Everyone,
I hate the damn skill system, sorry I do even though it pushed some of my space traits over the top. I hate the removal of the crew stat from Space combat mechanics.
The stat was broken and never worked properly. What exactly did you like about it?
What I find most of all disappointing is that, they could have instead of coming out with some retro throw back to the messed up Rick Breeman show killer time travel TRIBBLE known as "Enterprise" they could have made a dynamic ever expanding map of exploration.
Enterprise is the most recent television series. The retro throwback is to the Gene Roddenberry series, Star Trek, from 1966. Rick Berman wasn't part of that.
I would happily shell out 19.95 or 129.95 for that, or 15.00 a month, or what ever so I could go, even if I had to roll a new toon and actually explore space, meet new alien life forms
That game is on its way. It's called No Man's Sky.
How can you be disappointed with the next release? Time travel?
The faulty premise of your posting aside, what's that "I have to switch factions"? This game is free to play and everyone is free to play each faction. You do not buy into a faction and stay there. If you only want to play one faction that's your choice but people always act like playing a faction in a game is somehow something genetically predetermined and they are locked out of things that happen to one faction.
Only valid point you can bring up is that you don't like TOS and you don't think a TOS themed content pack will be your thing and that's fine. It's free, you can still take a look at it and simply not buy anything for it. You can also say you are worried about the changes the game gets to be console compatible, I am as well. But you can't be disappointed with future releases at this point.
Pretty much what I was thinking. Quoted for truth!
to be truthful I was disappointed initially with the news of the expansion, I have come to except the expansion as it stands although to a limited extent.
I was really hoping for the new faction to be cardassian, a cardassian faction even in the form of a half faction like the romulan faction would have been a separate entity in the game with a choice to align with either the fed faction or the kdf faction and they would also have had their own home world to return to when ever the desire was there just like the roms can with Mol'Rihan or even the romulan flotilla and in a role play scenario we have no worry or divulging information to our leader D'Tan that could cause any problems for the universe as whole.
these things we should not have with a TOS character, if what I have read is correct and at some point we are whisked off to the future, we should not really be returning to the past unless it was for a certain mission and even then we should not communicate any knowledge we have learned of future events for fear of disrupting the time line and we also don't have any choice of what faction we join with in the current time setting, we are stuck with the fed faction as the only option for forward progression.
although i will enjoy playing through the missions and the event as a whole it is for this reason I will probably end up just using my TOS character as yet another farmer for my main characters just as I did with the delta characters I created and that is a shame as I would have used a cardassian as a forth main character to expand my fed, kdf & rom line up of mains.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
I'm looking forward to it. And its a nice concept to do. This will be far better than the TOS junk missions they did with the comet. I really didn't like those. They was poorly written and a pain to do.
Only thing for me is how this will play into the current game. As for RPing uses. Will I need to create a whole new character, or can I do an ancestor for one of my current Characters.
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Wow, a lot of words to criticize someone's opinion. Maybe you're the one that needs to calm down a bit.
Why, oh vehement defender of the ability to throw disco balls at will? Is it because my love of things TOS doesn't fit your love(s), so I can't strike up a discussion?
I believe that I addressed the points in the OPs post in a salient, calm, and highly sarcastic manner. (ie, point of tribbles with lazors, point of "endgame content") And the OP did have quite a few things to comment on - or request additional clarifications of...
Though, yeah, sarcasm translates oh so well to text... Considering what seems highly probable in the near future, there's a probability that a new signature may be required - and it just might be a sarcasm warning...
Detecting big-time "anti-old-school" bias here. NX? Lobi. TOS/TMP Connie? Super-promotion-box. (aka the two hardest ways to get ships) Excelsior & all 3 TNG "big hero" ships? C-Store. Please Equalize...
To rob a line: [quote: Mariemaia Kushrenada] Forum Posting is much like an endless waltz. The three beats of war, peace and revolution continue on forever. However, opinions will change upon the reading of my post.[/quote]
The idea that we get new stories (for multiple factions even), new reputations, new specialisations and many new maps is nice. But I agree with the OP that a past version of our current factions is less interesting than the addition of new and fully seperate factions or playable species could have been.
I'm also wondering how they're going to make it make sense that our centuries-old captains will eventually end up in 2409 and fight alongside our current captains. Unless we're all moving to the 29th century eventually and we might find all our characters to be at a huge disadvantage, this will be hard to accept.
Anyway, regardless of what they add to the game, I hope they'll fix the power creep first. It's going to be difficult to attract new players and KEEP them in the game if those new players are going to find that 90% of the end game content only contains enemies that are vaporised in mere seconds and end bosses losing significant parts of their health as a result of collateral damage or secondary (AOE) effects.
If they want to make this successful, they should really adress the current state of the queues and restore some balance between NPC's and players.
Given that people keep complaining about the lack of support for the non-Fed factions we already have, why do people keep dreaming of Cardies/Ferengi/whatever as Even More Factions!™..... to be ignored after release?
Obviously, we still have to see how it'll work, but I'm not really seeing the "past" guys as another faction - they fold into the regular factions once they get through their time travel story, so there's no need for a fourth faction of new ships to be (not) created in future story arcs. Yeah, they have a different level-up storyline, but they're just more Feds (and maybe KDFs) once they get through that.
Given that people keep complaining about the lack of support for the non-Fed factions we already have, why do people keep dreaming of Cardies/Ferengi/whatever as Even More Factions!™..... to be ignored after release?
Obviously, we still have to see how it'll work, but I'm not really seeing the "past" guys as another faction - they fold into the regular factions once they get through their time travel story, so there's no need for a fourth faction of new ships to be (not) created in future story arcs. Yeah, they have a different level-up storyline, but they're just more Feds (and maybe KDFs) once they get through that.
Maybe. We'll see.
just feds it has been covered.
on topic I'm pretty sure cryptic gonna end up disappointed I'm sure the first few days will be crazy but make alot less money then they hope... and there is a slight chance that the non trek oh look a free game people will end up prefering roms or kdf to feds. cause lets face it evil is cool/sexy. and people like getting to play the bad guys.
as to why people keep asking for more. faction more factions more players going for one of them not feds. so more chances cryptic will stop with the excuses. or they just really like that group. one of those.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
Well I'm disappointed with the fact that the new "expansion" seems only to consist of 6 .Missions ... how do I know that ... well Tribble ... how do I know the current Tribble-Build is "all we get" ... well I don't know for 100% ... but reading through the Missions it seems pretty obvious that the TOS-Experience seems to limited to Level 1-10, after that you'll just replay the same old stuff as "Temporal Agent" ... I was at least expecting content for Level 1-30, but if that's really all we'll get I don't see the point in buying T1-T4 Ships replaying the same old content ...
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I WANT the Classic Series Ships, BADLY and have been waiting patiently for SIX YEARS to get them.
So I don't give a hoot how many missions They come up with, as long as I can fly those ships I'll be happy to play Their limited story-line again and again.
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this is how i see it , i really dont need another ALT to play , my delta barely is used , the way the state of the game plays is that you can barely afford to get one toon to compete at end game levels , getting your gear upgraded on more than one toon is painful at best , the game META doesnt support it . if you dont care about the end game dps content then more alts dont effect you , i already have like 6 alts due to the size of my fleets SBs one in each separate SB .
now while im all for the TOS content , im not happy about having to create a ALT to truly experience the expansion . new players may not have the same feelings that players that have been playing a long time
I have 15 characters, no idea why anyone thinks its hard to "afford" multiple characters, multiple characters make things cheaper because you can pool resources, drawing from them with any character in need at the time you choose to play it. I reworked the equipment on 5 characters and their ships last week on successive days, didn't spend a dime, just used what my account has earned. Not a DPSer either.
See...for most reasonable people, this is how it works. The trouble is, people see these DPS folks who grab 200million EC ships for one trait, spend another 300 million EC for two boff abilities, spend even more dil then that to upgrade rep items to epic and yeah...if you think that every single one of your toons need this...it does get expensive. But if you are being reasonable...more toons = more resources.
What ship traits are people buying at those prices?
on topic I'm pretty sure cryptic gonna end up disappointed I'm sure the first few days will be crazy but make alot less money then they hope... and there is a slight chance that the non trek oh look a free game people will end up prefering roms or kdf to feds. cause lets face it evil is cool/sexy. and people like getting to play the bad guys.
We'll see. TOS is Cryptic's best bet for drawing in new blood, especially tied in with the 50th anniversary. Visually, it stands apart from the other 4 series (even ENT was criticised for looking more like TNG). Honestly, I can't see a Cardassian or Dominion faction drawing in fresh players, or indeed an even smaller subset of the playerbase than the 13% of Romulan alts.
This, though... I'd wager the majority of Trek fans have at least some irrational affection for TOS, even if it's not their favourite. Those 60s styles have a charm of their own. Plus there are a lot of people who've said they would happily pay for a T5U / T6 ship - unscientifically, it seems to me far more than those who demand Cardassians.
Hi Everyone,
I hate the damn skill system, sorry I do even though it pushed some of my space traits over the top. I hate the removal of the crew stat from Space combat mechanics.
The stat was broken and never worked properly. What exactly did you like about it?
What I find most of all disappointing is that, they could have instead of coming out with some retro throw back to the messed up Rick Breeman show killer time travel TRIBBLE known as "Enterprise" they could have made a dynamic ever expanding map of exploration.
Enterprise is the most recent television series. The retro throwback is to the Gene Roddenberry series, Star Trek, from 1966. Rick Berman wasn't part of that.
I would happily shell out 19.95 or 129.95 for that, or 15.00 a month, or what ever so I could go, even if I had to roll a new toon and actually explore space, meet new alien life forms
That game is on its way. It's called No Man's Sky.
I pre ordered my No Man's Sky last week. Looking forward to it.
on topic I'm pretty sure cryptic gonna end up disappointed I'm sure the first few days will be crazy but make alot less money then they hope... and there is a slight chance that the non trek oh look a free game people will end up prefering roms or kdf to feds. cause lets face it evil is cool/sexy. and people like getting to play the bad guys.
We'll see. TOS is Cryptic's best bet for drawing in new blood, especially tied in with the 50th anniversary. Visually, it stands apart from the other 4 series (even ENT was criticised for looking more like TNG). Honestly, I can't see a Cardassian or Dominion faction drawing in fresh players, or indeed an even smaller subset of the playerbase than the 13% of Romulan alts.
This, though... I'd wager the majority of Trek fans have at least some irrational affection for TOS, even if it's not their favourite. Those 60s styles have a charm of their own. Plus there are a lot of people who've said they would happily pay for a T5U / T6 ship - unscientifically, it seems to me far more than those who demand Cardassians.
that I have no doubts about, I do and it is my least favorite after ent. problem is I'm fairly sure most trekies gamer have played or are playing sto already. while some non gamer trekkies and a few of those who have left may start playing they'll run into the same we are always complaining about on the forum. and in less there the hardcore types their likely to just say forget and play one of the other star terk or just plain not bother. I could be wrong though, so as you said we'll see.
really the group that cryptic really needs to impress for console part to be a hit are non trekkie gamers and thats not likely to happen. too many poor choices and leaning on the ip for that.
though it be funny as hell if we got alot of reboot fans from this.
oh and cryptic sometimes has questionable expectations for what they get for their money. but that could just be me.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
It's the new version of hipsterism. Instead of being into something before it was cool, now you can hate something before anyone else!
And no, without TOS there would have been no other Star Trek - because all the rest was building on the mythos created by the staff of the original show (largely the underappreciated Gene L. Coon, creator of the Klingons, the Romulans, the Prime Directive, the United Federation of Planets, and Starfleet Command, among other things, and of course the story editing and writing talents of Dorothy "D.C." Fontana). Saying otherwise is akin to claiming that without the original Star Wars, someone would still have filmed The Empire Strikes Back and written the Thrawn Trilogy, or that Torchwood would have come into existence without the aid of Doctor Who.
How can you be disappointed with the next release? Time travel?
The faulty premise of your posting aside, what's that "I have to switch factions"? This game is free to play and everyone is free to play each faction. You do not buy into a faction and stay there. If you only want to play one faction that's your choice but people always act like playing a faction in a game is somehow something genetically predetermined and they are locked out of things that happen to one faction.
Only valid point you can bring up is that you don't like TOS and you don't think a TOS themed content pack will be your thing and that's fine. It's free, you can still take a look at it and simply not buy anything for it. You can also say you are worried about the changes the game gets to be console compatible, I am as well. But you can't be disappointed with future releases at this point.
The only reason they are releasing a mini expansion like this TOS garbage, is basically to force players to level up a new character, spend money to buy their new ships, spend money to upgrade the gear that they are going to need and to time gate them through ALL the reputations, all over again. Expanding things for our current characters would not yield them the type of profits that they need to recoup from the misguided adventure into a console client...
I will be happy knowing that I do not have to participate in or spend any money on this mini expansion. :-)
Um, they're not forcing anyone to do anything. It's totally up to you, the player, whether to create a new character. Up to you, the player whether to buy ships or whatnot. Up to you, the player to do anything related to this game.
I don't get where anyone is being forced to even log in and play, they even choose to do that, or not. Like I haven't been on the game since the Anniversary Event ended until recently. And all I'm doing is converting all my colored Omega Traces into upgrades. No one has come along and forced me to do anything I don't want to do.
Like you said in your last sentence, we don't have to even participate in the expansion, if we don't want to. If we do, then it's our choice to create a new character and level them up. I've played this game for years now as a FTPer, and I've spent money to get things, but not very often.
Although, I'm still trying to make myself be patient enough to save enough to buy a lifer.
Now a LTS and loving it.
Just because you spend money on this game, it does not entitle you to be a jerk if things don't go your way.
I have come to the conclusion that I have a memory like Etch-A-Sketch. I shake my head and forget everything.
Hi Everyone,
I hate the damn skill system, sorry I do even though it pushed some of my space traits over the top. I hate the removal of the crew stat from Space combat mechanics.
The stat was broken and never worked properly. What exactly did you like about it?
What I find most of all disappointing is that, they could have instead of coming out with some retro throw back to the messed up Rick Breeman show killer time travel TRIBBLE known as "Enterprise" they could have made a dynamic ever expanding map of exploration.
Enterprise is the most recent television series. The retro throwback is to the Gene Roddenberry series, Star Trek, from 1966. Rick Berman wasn't part of that.
I would happily shell out 19.95 or 129.95 for that, or 15.00 a month, or what ever so I could go, even if I had to roll a new toon and actually explore space, meet new alien life forms
That game is on its way. It's called No Man's Sky.
I pre ordered my No Man's Sky last week. Looking forward to it.
Personally, I'm choosing to create a new toon for AoY. Nobody's forcing me to do so. I'm even choosing to drop some cash on that Temporal Agent pack, because I'm really digging those new ships (looking forward to running around at endgame with a TOS-looking ship like the Ranger-class skin, on a proper T6 ship bed). Again, nobody's forcing me to do anything - I could even play AoY without buying the new stuff, if I so chose.
Choice is the key here, people. You don't like it? Don't play it. Were I you, I'd leave my options open until trying it, as that costs you precisely nothing, but if you want to hate it without ever seeing it, well, that's your choice then, now isn't it? It might strike me as a tad silly, but if you choose to appear silly to me, that's on you.
The only reason they are releasing a mini expansion like this TOS garbage, is basically to force players to level up a new character, spend money to buy their new ships, spend money to upgrade the gear that they are going to need and to time gate them through ALL the reputations, all over again. Expanding things for our current characters would not yield them the type of profits that they need to recoup from the misguided adventure into a console client...
I will be happy knowing that I do not have to participate in or spend any money on this mini expansion. :-)
I like
ps aint played fed for 3 years & not going to start now.
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The Federation, Klingons and Romulans are already in the game, introducing them as an earlier faction to then simply join into the existing status quo doesn't wet my appetite. Sure new story lines and new ships. (Still waiting for the Tier 6 Sovereign and others). But how does a TOS ship from the 2260's fit into 2410 ?.
Ok so all of the species i mentioned have had lockbox ships released which if thats the negating factor on introducing these Species as independent factions then in hindsight it was a bad decision. However it is more likely 2 factors that determined the content we are getting.
1. Limitation of the game engine and like the Romulans any new faction will be bound to the Feds/KDF.
2. Not wanting to have to create content and upkeep another faction. the Roms and KDF already are all but abandoned. All recent new FE have been cross faction.
I'm not for stopping TOS fans from enjoying part of Star Trek they enjoy, but from what i've seen so far i'm not overly excited by it.
I just hope any new end game content they introduce to the PvE queues captures the enjoyment of the old borg ones where the content is free flowing rather than filled with pitstops like Gates of Gre'thor, Counterpoint ect.
now while im all for the TOS content , im not happy about having to create a ALT to truly experience the expansion . new players may not have the same feelings that players that have been playing a long time
Breen are actually the Winter Event. Dominion and Tholians have pretty much had their ENTIRE fleet given away in lockboxes. What Ferengi fleet as we've only ever seen one ship, and the Cryptic designed Nandi doesn't seem to be flying much these days. Cardassians, while an apparent fan favorite, had their most iconic ship in the first lockbox.
I'm saving up for the eventual T6 Sovereign myself. Gotta refit the Lexington again. As to a TOS ship in 2410... I guess we'll find out when the expansion goes live.
First off, I am all for Cryptic making money. I was perfectly happy paying 15 dollars a month when this game came out, not to mention I pre-ordered collectors edition, so I have been playing off and on since beta.
I love Star Trek and I want this game to continue to do great things, and it has. I do however feel like this is yet another sad content push.
I hate the damn skill system, sorry I do even though it pushed some of my space traits over the top. I hate the removal of the crew stat from Space combat mechanics.
What I find most of all disappointing is that, they could have instead of coming out with some retro throw back to the messed up Rick Breeman show killer time travel TRIBBLE known as "Enterprise" they could have made a dynamic ever expanding map of exploration.
Image if you could assue the role of StarFleet and go boldly explore new systems, new worlds, and new challenges. Not this canned pick 3 missions, but a dynamic random generator that just keeps making map instances with big vibrant worlds and problems. I believe it can be done, and I would have been excited by something like that, as after all that is What Star Trek starts out with "Space the Final Froniter...."
I would happily shell out 19.95 or 129.95 for that, or 15.00 a month, or what ever so I could go, even if I had to roll a new toon and actually explore space, meet new alien life forms and help them or conquerer and kill them if you're a Klingon.
that to me would have been the "better option" in my Humble opinon.
Just my thoughts.. love them or hate them.
The stat was broken and never worked properly. What exactly did you like about it?
Enterprise is the most recent television series. The retro throwback is to the Gene Roddenberry series, Star Trek, from 1966. Rick Berman wasn't part of that.
That game is on its way. It's called No Man's Sky.
Pretty much what I was thinking. Quoted for truth!
after 1 year from the last recuitment event a new one is welcomed by most of the player base
a new exploration system is work in process
i am sure of it that some day KDF and ROM get there special expansion
I was really hoping for the new faction to be cardassian, a cardassian faction even in the form of a half faction like the romulan faction would have been a separate entity in the game with a choice to align with either the fed faction or the kdf faction and they would also have had their own home world to return to when ever the desire was there just like the roms can with Mol'Rihan or even the romulan flotilla and in a role play scenario we have no worry or divulging information to our leader D'Tan that could cause any problems for the universe as whole.
these things we should not have with a TOS character, if what I have read is correct and at some point we are whisked off to the future, we should not really be returning to the past unless it was for a certain mission and even then we should not communicate any knowledge we have learned of future events for fear of disrupting the time line and we also don't have any choice of what faction we join with in the current time setting, we are stuck with the fed faction as the only option for forward progression.
although i will enjoy playing through the missions and the event as a whole it is for this reason I will probably end up just using my TOS character as yet another farmer for my main characters just as I did with the delta characters I created and that is a shame as I would have used a cardassian as a forth main character to expand my fed, kdf & rom line up of mains.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
Only thing for me is how this will play into the current game. As for RPing uses. Will I need to create a whole new character, or can I do an ancestor for one of my current Characters.
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Fleet Admiral Stowe - Dominion War Vet.
Why, oh vehement defender of the ability to throw disco balls at will? Is it because my love of things TOS doesn't fit your love(s), so I can't strike up a discussion?
I believe that I addressed the points in the OPs post in a salient, calm, and highly sarcastic manner. (ie, point of tribbles with lazors, point of "endgame content") And the OP did have quite a few things to comment on - or request additional clarifications of...
Though, yeah, sarcasm translates oh so well to text... Considering what seems highly probable in the near future, there's a probability that a new signature may be required - and it just might be a sarcasm warning...
To rob a line: [quote: Mariemaia Kushrenada] Forum Posting is much like an endless waltz. The three beats of war, peace and revolution continue on forever. However, opinions will change upon the reading of my post.[/quote]
I'm also wondering how they're going to make it make sense that our centuries-old captains will eventually end up in 2409 and fight alongside our current captains. Unless we're all moving to the 29th century eventually and we might find all our characters to be at a huge disadvantage, this will be hard to accept.
Anyway, regardless of what they add to the game, I hope they'll fix the power creep first. It's going to be difficult to attract new players and KEEP them in the game if those new players are going to find that 90% of the end game content only contains enemies that are vaporised in mere seconds and end bosses losing significant parts of their health as a result of collateral damage or secondary (AOE) effects.
If they want to make this successful, they should really adress the current state of the queues and restore some balance between NPC's and players.
Edit: missing words.
Obviously, we still have to see how it'll work, but I'm not really seeing the "past" guys as another faction - they fold into the regular factions once they get through their time travel story, so there's no need for a fourth faction of new ships to be (not) created in future story arcs. Yeah, they have a different level-up storyline, but they're just more Feds (and maybe KDFs) once they get through that.
Maybe. We'll see.
just feds it has been covered.
on topic I'm pretty sure cryptic gonna end up disappointed I'm sure the first few days will be crazy but make alot less money then they hope... and there is a slight chance that the non trek oh look a free game people will end up prefering roms or kdf to feds. cause lets face it evil is cool/sexy. and people like getting to play the bad guys.
as to why people keep asking for more. faction more factions more players going for one of them not feds. so more chances cryptic will stop with the excuses. or they just really like that group. one of those.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
So I don't give a hoot how many missions They come up with, as long as I can fly those ships I'll be happy to play Their limited story-line again and again.
I Was A Trekkie Before It Was Cool ... Sept. 8th, 1966 ... Not To Mention Before Most Folks Around Here Were Born!
Forever a STO Veteran-Minion
What ship traits are people buying at those prices?
We'll see. TOS is Cryptic's best bet for drawing in new blood, especially tied in with the 50th anniversary. Visually, it stands apart from the other 4 series (even ENT was criticised for looking more like TNG). Honestly, I can't see a Cardassian or Dominion faction drawing in fresh players, or indeed an even smaller subset of the playerbase than the 13% of Romulan alts.
This, though... I'd wager the majority of Trek fans have at least some irrational affection for TOS, even if it's not their favourite. Those 60s styles have a charm of their own. Plus there are a lot of people who've said they would happily pay for a T5U / T6 ship - unscientifically, it seems to me far more than those who demand Cardassians.
I pre ordered my No Man's Sky last week. Looking forward to it.
that I have no doubts about, I do and it is my least favorite after ent. problem is I'm fairly sure most trekies gamer have played or are playing sto already. while some non gamer trekkies and a few of those who have left may start playing they'll run into the same we are always complaining about on the forum. and in less there the hardcore types their likely to just say forget and play one of the other star terk or just plain not bother. I could be wrong though, so as you said we'll see.
really the group that cryptic really needs to impress for console part to be a hit are non trekkie gamers and thats not likely to happen. too many poor choices and leaning on the ip for that.
though it be funny as hell if we got alot of reboot fans from this.
oh and cryptic sometimes has questionable expectations for what they get for their money. but that could just be me.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
And no, without TOS there would have been no other Star Trek - because all the rest was building on the mythos created by the staff of the original show (largely the underappreciated Gene L. Coon, creator of the Klingons, the Romulans, the Prime Directive, the United Federation of Planets, and Starfleet Command, among other things, and of course the story editing and writing talents of Dorothy "D.C." Fontana). Saying otherwise is akin to claiming that without the original Star Wars, someone would still have filmed The Empire Strikes Back and written the Thrawn Trilogy, or that Torchwood would have come into existence without the aid of Doctor Who.
OH NO someone doesnt agree with Angrytarg.
Um, they're not forcing anyone to do anything. It's totally up to you, the player, whether to create a new character. Up to you, the player whether to buy ships or whatnot. Up to you, the player to do anything related to this game.
I don't get where anyone is being forced to even log in and play, they even choose to do that, or not. Like I haven't been on the game since the Anniversary Event ended until recently. And all I'm doing is converting all my colored Omega Traces into upgrades. No one has come along and forced me to do anything I don't want to do.
Like you said in your last sentence, we don't have to even participate in the expansion, if we don't want to. If we do, then it's our choice to create a new character and level them up. I've played this game for years now as a FTPer, and I've spent money to get things, but not very often.
Although, I'm still trying to make myself be patient enough to save enough to buy a lifer.
Same here. Should be a very fun game.
Choice is the key here, people. You don't like it? Don't play it. Were I you, I'd leave my options open until trying it, as that costs you precisely nothing, but if you want to hate it without ever seeing it, well, that's your choice then, now isn't it? It might strike me as a tad silly, but if you choose to appear silly to me, that's on you.
I like
ps aint played fed for 3 years & not going to start now.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'