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  • dracounguisdracounguis Member Posts: 5,358 Arc User
    edited January 2016
    In the PvP race...
    A proper finish line.
    No bunny hopping. (I can't do it, I've tried, so BAN IT! ;) )
    And the deactivation of whatever Sci toons are using that gives them a speed boost (they get a green glow when activating it.)

    In the PvE race: Get rid of the "they're entering the final stretch" text bubble that comes up when you're only about HALF way done! 'Final' stretch my TRIBBLE. :* Cryptic please look up the definition of 'final'.


    I like the idea about the ski jump. That would be a good alternate way to get tags instead of the broken PvP race.
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  • dracounguisdracounguis Member Posts: 5,358 Arc User
    edited January 2016
    storules wrote: »
    Don't you just get tired of the the crappy politically correctness (PC). Seems so far old fashioned to be PC as now more people just want to tell it like it is. Then again, beyond devs paygrade to dwell in those issues​​

    Yeah, the one that always makes me roll my eyes is when they say BCE (before common era) instead of BC (before Christ) for historic dates. But they still use the same numbers (aka 200BC = 200 BCE) so its a totally pointless change. If you're gonna change one part then find a decent reason to change the other! I can just see some PC teacher trying to explain why BCE is counting down to 0 while trying to avoid mentioning anything about religion. :D Glad I got out of school before all the PC idiocy got into full swing.

    Sometimes I think I play STO just to have something to complain about on the forums.
  • garaks31garaks31 Member Posts: 2,845 Arc User
    In the PvP race...
    A proper finish line.
    No bunny hopping. (I can't do it, I've tried, so BAN IT! ;) )
    And the deactivation of whatever Sci toons are using that gives them a speed boost (they get a green glow when activating it.)

    In the PvE race: Get rid of the "they're entering the final stretch" text bubble that comes up when you're only about HALF way done! 'Final' stretch my TRIBBLE. :* Cryptic please look up the definition of 'final'.


    I like the idea about the ski jump. That would be a good alternate way to get tags instead of the broken PvP race.


    bunny hopping gives toons under levl 50 the chance to compete and win and it's a example of skill beats p2w so it should stay
    the green glow is not a sci think it's a set bonus from 8472 ground set
    i prefer delta set bunus + [run] weapon

    my suggestions are starship shaped little slides and ev suits activities under the lake or in space ...
  • jslynjslyn Member Posts: 1,788 Arc User
    Maybe something cheesy, but winter themed. Like the ability to make Snow Angels on the hills.
  • kayajaykayajay Member Posts: 1,990 Arc User
    A space game! The reward is always a ship, but all we get are ground games.
  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    I would like the same thing I asked for this year; the customization of a Breen Bridge Officer.
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  • fovrelfovrel Member Posts: 1,448 Arc User
    Powercreep should be taken out of the PvP race. I am talking about reputation and reputation gear speed buffs. BTW I don't see any need for these speed buffs other than this event. Where else does it help you? Perhaps I am missing something. It doesn't make gameplay better for those who have it, yet it does make gameplay worse for new and low level players.

    PvE race. Add the mark project from the beginning and not after you finish the ship project.

    Snowmen fights. Give better rewards or let us exchange the commodities for marks, xp points, dilithium, you name it. I do not participate in these events, because if I want to do things on the ground, Voth battle zone and Kobali give the same enjoyment and better rewards.

    Since this is a nice game environment to experiment, could we have some puzzles?
  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited January 2016
    Ginger bread colony not walled off, more accessible to get at. in addition the overlord could do with a loss of some of its overall hp or the snoiconian could do with an increase in its rather weak attack powers.

    fix the single player ice race track, there are a number of cheats still in this track have existed for years since it was introduced, however there were some revisions made, for the most part there are still a few glaring off track excursions one can do still. also change the way players join the single player race by creating a queue for players, who ever waves first is first in the next then the next and then next.. so on. that way no one can butt in, you got a 30 second window to respond once the option pops up, after which if you fail to respond you are removed from the queue but not always disqualified like this stupid system.

    create a new place to place a ship on landing, before that tides of ice event came the breen ships were parked above and you could see it from anywhere on the map.

    replace that horrible voice for the tides of ice announcer. less annoying sounding would be nice. also increase the rewards and give everyone the chance to get rewarded for taking down the snow borg queen.

    remove the bunny hopping mechanic by increasing the delay between jumps or making bunny hopping pointless. an increase of 5 seconds per jump should do nicely. adjust the flags at the end so only those who are registered on the instance are the ones who can grab it, not an outsider dropping in claiming the flag and leaving who never took part in that race. in addition the race should be dropped immediately after the race is done or when another starts up or on DQ.

    adjust the seats on the winter wonderland to make them a little taller so the map does not discriminate against bigger and taller lifeforms like gorns or other lanky aliens, otherwise feet go through the snow and ice floor in the gazeebo. also change those awful bucket seats to something more practical to sit on, previously it were ordinary park benches.

    Some areas of the map are not used or have fairly little use, these areas should be more used by creating some events or moving other npcs to these areas with their own dedicated centers, for example the epohh romulan researcher could have something like a small hut connected by fences and in the middle are free roaming epohhs with another researcher doing a cursory scan on an epohh as a placeholder, all you do is wonder in to the researcher and nothing changes. but it makes better use of the map.

    in addition there could be additional npcs brought in as well, like the ESD DJ who has her own winter dancing event. again making use of the landscape to do it.

    so many things, i doubt any of it will be noticed.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    tacofangs wrote: »
    mvaiks wrote: »
    It's Xmas isn't is??? So where are the Xmas lights?!?!?!?

    I want a day-night cycle like we have in Bajor. I want a lot o Xmas lights at night!
    It's not X-Mas, it's a non-denominational winter holiday. Hence, no lights, no christmas trees, etc.
    I understand, but christmas trees are now everywhere (Korea, Japan, India, Africa, etc), they are just a symbol of the winter holidays. they have lost for a lot of people around the world their christian symbolism.
    :p

    the first christmas trees come
    There is evidence that they predate christianity.
    It's really not a Christian thing at all.
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  • jaguarskxjaguarskx Member Posts: 5,945 Arc User
    AKF bans for players who do not participate in the Gingebread Colony event.
  • smeeinn1tsmeeinn1t Member Posts: 618 Arc User
    I know I'm repeating myself, but since the inception of frosted boots all I want is a crashed ice kinda race.

    PVP first over the line wins, only rule is that you must have the boots, no dumb flags. Plenty of banks and jumps with enough length that the boots can be in skate mode for them. During the race all surfaces work with the boots. Maybe even a way of speeding up the ship tokens as reward..?​​
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  • rtk142rtk142 Member Posts: 613 Arc User
    edited January 2016
    Maybe they could add warp/singularity cores for the sets that don't have them, like they did with the breen set
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  • benben500benben500 Member Posts: 112 Arc User
    Christmas light beam arrays that come in a variety of colors (white, single color, multicolor, changing, etc.) to really give some nice rainbow boat possibilities. They would go great on my Breen ships.
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  • maddscottmaddscott Member Posts: 149 Arc User
    edited January 2016
    2016 Winter Event Wish list - Would be nice *IF*

    EXISTING ISSUES (Since 1st Winter Event)

    (1) Fix Romulan Transwarp - Romulan toons cannot beam directly to New Romulus to begin the event; Better yet, why not just transwarp directly to the event ??
    (2) Fix Winter Event DOFF missions for New Romulus - None are available;
    (3) Fix "Stealing the Flag" exploit/Cheat.
    (a) Disable ability for players to Beam to Bridge from the event;
    (b) DQ players that do not complete the race by CLAIMING a flag.. If a player does NOT claim a flag, it's an auto DQ.
    (c) Enable Timer to DQ players that do not finish the race within the alloted time;
    (d) DQ/Reset Player if they leave the Race and/or leave the Event Area.
    (4) FIX mechanical Exploit of "Bunny-Hopping". This is simply not just "jumping" by pressing the space bar.
    (5) FIX Accolades for Winter Event.. Not properly giving credit for current accolades.
    **(6) Winter Event DOFF Missions - Rewards to not scaled based on "CRIT" completion. Succes yields 125 dil and a CRIT will yield 125 dil as well. As with other DOFF Missions, rewards should scale based on level of success.

    "CONES of CONDUCT"

    (1) Adjust either Overlord or Snoconian HP; A full health Snoconian goes useless way to quick;
    (2) Enable Players to contribute ALL Ice/Syrup when donating. It simply takes to long to donate any amount over 5;
    (3) Enable MULTIPLE players to donate Ice/Sryup. One person/item at a time takes players away from the fight far to long;
    (4) Enable AFK penelty. Lots of vampires hanging around doing nothing, yet get rewarded;
    (5) Adjust rewards to Bonus players that actually collect Ice/Syrup, and minimize rewards for those that just shoot the Overlord. The Mission parameters are clear, If players can't follow the parameters, they should not reap maximized benefits;

    "TIDES of ICE"

    (1) Adjust Rewards. Clearly the event needs updated. Current Rewards do not justify running the event;
    (2) Wave 10 (Queen) rewards really needs boosted.. Being present for all 10 waves and getting one Targ EarMuff ??
    (3) Possible added bonus rewards for Tower Repairs;
    (4) Enable AFK penelty. Lots of vampires hanging around doing nothing, yet get rewarded;

    "FAST and the FLURRIOUS" (PvP)

    (1) Disable ALL Traits, Weapons, Ground Set gear "RUN" boosts. The Event is for Level 5 toons and higher. Any player that does not have access to the Trait, Fleet and/or Reputation system is clearly at a disadvantage;
    (2) See "EXISTING ISSUES" Items (3) and (4).

    "EPOHH RESEARCH"

    (1) THANK YOU VERY MUCH for adjusting the research time down to 20 hours for the Event and New Romulus Epohh Research;
    (2) Epohh Tags - With the available exploits, cheats, and unbalanced boosts currently in-game, the PvP race, IMHO, should not be the only method available to obtain the Taggs.

    Consider rewarding up to 4 tagg's for "Player Participation". For each 20 hour period the Player Participates in the Event, there would be a maximum of 4 "Player Participation" Tags rewarded for participating and completing the following events: PvP, PvE, SnowBall Fight, Cones of Conduct, Tides of Ice. The "normal" event rewards would remain in-place. However, in order to minimize the AFK and "leechers" issue during the event, a reduced reward could be given.

    I, personally, am NOT in favor of the return to "Snowball Pile" farming for Taggs or trinkets.. I fully agree with the removal of that process due to the "Robots" and Macro farming during that event.

    "NEW IDEAS for 2016"

    (1) RELOCATE Mini-Q to the CENTER of the Table so players have a full 360 access to Bank, Exchange, Mail, etc. Current location does not allow for 360 Access;
    (2) PvP TEAM SnowBall fight (Ground) - No weapons no shields, or armor, Just snowballs. Winner is first team to freeze each player on opposite team (X) number of times..
    (3) New Combat Pet "Mission" - Have players scan wildlife for an injured animal. Beam said animal back to Sick-Bay. Implement DOFF mission (Medical) to heal, revive. Add additional DOFF missions to train, develop, evolve to a mature Combat Pet;
    (4) Create a method/process/purchase option so all players have the opportunity to complete the Breen ship collection.

    The Winter Event "is" one of my favorite special events. I believe that implementation of some of these items would greatly improve the event, player experience, and possibly reduce the chat "grief". I fully understand there will always be those that will seek any and all exploits/cheats and not "all-the-bases" can be covered.

    TYVM.. Have Fun.. Be Nice to each other..


    *Edited to add Item #6 to "Existing Issues".. tyvm..
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  • kapla5571kapla5571 Member Posts: 103 Arc User
    garaks31 wrote: »

    bunny hopping gives toons under levl 50 the chance to compete and win and it's a example of skill beats p2w so it should stay
    the green glow is not a sci think it's a set bonus from 8472 ground set
    i prefer delta set bunus + [run] weapon

    my suggestions are starship shaped little slides and ev suits activities under the lake or in space ...

    That is completely false I have gathered more than 8000+ marks from epohh taggs on 4 - sub 50 Delta recruit characters without "Bunny Hopping" to be competitive, and How completing a rep to get the Undine armor is P2W baffles since you can't pay to speed up the 20hr timer or do I find it a necessary item to win with.

    Frankly, the jumping mechanic used needs to be looked at if it wasn't broken then you shouldn't be able to consistintly pass ppl that started the PVE race 10+ secs ahead of you just by "hopping". The ingame ability "Dodge roll" already has a built in cooldown of 2secs irrc before it can be used again, 3 jumps then a 3-4 sec cooldown would be fine, even in maps that require jumping such as the Boss room of Infected Manus ground you never need to do more than 3 jumps in the alotted 3-4sec window to get to the activation consoles.

    Otherwise some pretty interesting suggestions in the thread.
  • maddscottmaddscott Member Posts: 149 Arc User
    kapla5571 wrote: »
    garaks31 wrote: »

    bunny hopping gives toons under levl 50 the chance to compete and win and it's a example of skill beats p2w so it should stay
    the green glow is not a sci think it's a set bonus from 8472 ground set
    i prefer delta set bunus + [run] weapon

    my suggestions are starship shaped little slides and ev suits activities under the lake or in space ...

    Ya know.. If the people I've seen, watched, recorded, and reported for "Bunny-Hopping" were under LvL-50, I may have given more thought to reporting the individuals. However.

    I totally disagree that "Bunny-Hopping" provides any type of "community service" to the player base. It is, IMHO, and simply is, an exploit of a mechanics of the game. And, I challenge you on the following questions:

    (1) If it's simply a matter of "skill" how can a Hopper jump faster, further, higher, and more repetitive than a Catian or Ferasan character that actually has the trait and ability to do jumps like a cat ??

    (2) *IF* it's not an Exploit, why do Hoppers immediately disappear (beam out) as soon as they claim the flag ?? Simple explaination.. They are getting the heck out of Dodge to keep from being identified and/or reported, imho;

    (3) WHY, do the players tagged as Hoppers, REFUSE to divulge the alleged macro, KeyBinds, skill set, and/or any info to other players to level that capability in the game, and vehemently deny that it's ANY TYPE of an "edge" when questioned ??

    (4) How can a Hopper finish the PvP race, before the other players make the turn after the cliff ??

    TYVM.. Have Fun.. Be nice to one another..
  • bberge1701bberge1701 Member Posts: 726 Bug Hunter
    edited January 2016
    I don't precisely remember last year's timetable of events, but I think we lost two runs of Fast and Flurrious this year when Cones of Conduct was added. With only two runs per hour, and generally earning two tags per run, it's been tough to get enough tags to keep my alts happy.

    I'd like to suggest removing Fast and Flurrious from the regular hourly timetable, and just let it run on its own clock every 7 1/2 minutes. That would mean 8 runs per hour, plenty of opportunity for everyone to get tags. We'll probably get another event added to the timetable next year anyway, so this may be a "given".
  • storulesstorules Member Posts: 3,284 Arc User
    We all know the devs plan the Summer stuff at least 6 months ahead and will do the same with WW2016 so what if we give them some ideas for new features we'd like to see?
    It is a fun event, so nothing is off-limits :wink:
    Someone in chat suggested a space event and I think I've an idea how that could work...
    Christmas Catastrophe! Identical to Crystalline event but with a giant pine tree in space, dropping pine needles instead of shards and with the Breen instead of Tholians. It could be this event which earns us the new ship for next year with the ground PvE race for unlocking an account-wide costume pack option (Breen outfits seen on the Breen NPCs in WW for example). I'd do both.

    Ice fishing! If you've played Fable, then you know fishing can be funny and you can have some random tat come out from time to time. I figure this could be a way of earning baubles/decorations in similar fashion to how digging for snowballs used to reward them. Of course, drop rate should be lowish but with the chance to score something nice (boots for example, giving a costume unlock if you collect enough boots). Maybe Q can give you some "dropboxes" (like 10) and you have to fish for the keys to open them (similar to the 2 boxes/keys you get from the Ferengi on Q'onos/ESD). They give 1 lobi (so 10 for the whole event isn't going to break the bank) and some random winter-themed items.

    New Accolades! I like killing snowmen. I would like to have my diligence rewarded/acknowledged. Something like "Don't like snowmen?", "Really, how can you not like snowmen?" and "Seriously? What is your issue with snowmen?" for 100, 500 and 1000. Let's face it, we'll all hit 1000 easily enough, but hey.

    I'd also suggest an alteration for Winter Invasion. I've seen runs without a single Gingerbread colonist anywhere, but the candy piles are always in the same place. I'm a glutton for punishment and keep running the mission even with all the recipes finished. I'd like to suggest the colonists spawn for every mission, in the same places as they do now to cut down on the number of runs needed. Also, a better optional for killing the yeti first, as so many just rush through to kill the baron (and he's a pushover so the gingerbread security guys that spawn can kill him) and the yeti is still standing. Killing the baron makes any recipe/candy still left uncollectable, so no going back to get them if you missed them following the speed-runners.

    Any more ideas or thoughts on the ones above?

    Waste of a thread....every year people come up with wishy/washy lists that Devs can't give a TRIBBLE about. I mean Mr EP could care less about what people want or suggest.

    Ever since I can remember, Cryptic does not take feedback from players on particular missions...NOT for winter event nor summer event. The Ice borgs, ginger bread men, cone of conduct, fast and flurrious and even some of the summer event stuff was never created with player's input. Devs or Mr EP dont ask in meetings..."let's see this is what this guy wants...so let's give it to them"...NEVER happened and very subjective to what DEVs actually want or could produce in a limited budget with limited resources...get over it and stop wasting time by asking what would be nice to have...better luck buying your own company and have designers do want you want. Not many MMOs would do what players want but what they're limited to in terms of resources.​​
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    bberge1701 wrote: »
    I don't precisely remember last year's timetable of events, but I think we lost two runs of Fast and Flurrious this year when Cones of Conduct was added. With only two runs per hour, and generally earning two tags per run, it's been tough to get enough tags to keep my alts happy.

    I'd like to suggest removing Fast and Flurrious from the regular hourly timetable, and just let it run on its own clock every 7 1/2 minutes. That would mean 8 runs per hour, plenty of opportunity for everyone to get tags. We'll probably get another event added to the timetable next year anyway, so this may be a "given".
    Not sure there. part of me wants to say that there is still the same number, but spaced differently.
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  • tinyfistedtinyfisted Member Posts: 193 Arc User
    bberge1701 wrote: »
    I'd like to suggest removing Fast and Flurrious from the regular hourly timetable, and just let it run on its own clock every 7 1/2 minutes. That would mean 8 runs per hour, plenty of opportunity for everyone to get tags. We'll probably get another event added to the timetable next year anyway, so this may be a "given".
    Not sure there. part of me wants to say that there is still the same number, but spaced differently.

    Last year, the :45 minute quarter-hour was taken up one of three ways: 2 extra Fast and Flurrious races, or a Tides of Ice, or nothing at all. So every three cycles, we got 2 extra races. 8 races every three hours, on average.
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  • tinyfistedtinyfisted Member Posts: 193 Arc User
    maddscott wrote: »
    2016 Winter Event Wish list - Would be nice *IF*

    Yours reads a lot like mine would, if I were to take the time from playing to make a detailed one.
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  • echattyechatty Member Posts: 5,917 Arc User
    edited January 2016
    garaks31 wrote: »
    In the PvP race...
    A proper finish line.
    No bunny hopping. (I can't do it, I've tried, so BAN IT! ;) )
    And the deactivation of whatever Sci toons are using that gives them a speed boost (they get a green glow when activating it.)

    In the PvE race: Get rid of the "they're entering the final stretch" text bubble that comes up when you're only about HALF way done! 'Final' stretch my TRIBBLE. :* Cryptic please look up the definition of 'final'.


    I like the idea about the ski jump. That would be a good alternate way to get tags instead of the broken PvP race.


    bunny hopping gives toons under levl 50 the chance to compete and win and it's a example of skill beats p2w so it should stay
    the green glow is not a sci think it's a set bonus from 8472 ground set
    i prefer delta set bunus + [run] weapon

    my suggestions are starship shaped little slides and ev suits activities under the lake or in space ...

    The green glow is a speed boost from the armor itself. You get a three second speed boost after coming out of a roll. No set bonus needed.
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