Is Khitomer Space Advanced Broken now?

macarthur1961

The last few days I have noticed a very disturbing change in Khitomer Space Advanced...it appears that it no longer causes a failure when probes are not stopped from going thru the gate to escape. Surely this is a bug...as it has turned KSA into KSfD... Khit Spc for dummies. Even a mentally challenged gnat could win it the way it is right now.
I sure hope this is fixed asap... as I do anywhere from 6-24 KSAs a day. I sure won't be doing it anymore tho if it is going to stay this way. It is much easier than a normal one now... so if it is to stay as it is now... name should be changed to Khitomer Space the Kindergarten of STFs.

seriousdave

WAI, it was made this way couple weeks ago along with a couple other STF changes.

EDIT:
found the notes http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/9649993-star-trek-online:-release-notes:-november-12th,-2015

misterferengi

Optional will/should still fail if a single probe gets through. But i'm pretty sure if 10, which was always the complete failure conditions get through then its game over.

sqwished

misterferengi#8959 wrote: »

Optional will/should still fail if a single probe gets through. But i'm pretty sure if 10, which was always the complete failure conditions get through then its game over.

The optional does fail if a single probe makes it through the gate. Can;t say about the upper limit, since it's been a long time since I've had a Khitomer fail. And to be honest the the insta fail optionals were removed because players wouldn't/couldn't adapt to the increase in hit points of the mobs. And it's the same reason why many of us have been asking for Elite versions of the original STF's for while.​​

lingeringsoul888

so they finally gave in to the <irrelevant name-calling edited out> that couldn't coordinate their left sock with their right sock. It's not like it was overly difficult before. All you had to do was shoot some probes, I mean, you're not shooting a swarm of 4 mil hp tactical cubes. It was exciting before watching out for stray probes......I guess now we don't really have to give a <another irrelevant profanity edited out> about it.

macarthur1961

lingeringsoul888 wrote: »

so they finally gave in to the whinging little TRIBBLE that couldn't coordinate their left sock with their right sock. It's not like it was overly difficult before. All you had to do was shoot some probes, I mean, you're not shooting a swarm of 4 mil hp tactical cubes. It was exciting before watching out for stray probes......I guess now we don't really have to give a TRIBBLE about it.

Well... thx to everyone for their responses... guess I will hafta give up doing STFs until they bring back the elites then...and find a new venue to help Noobs learn about PvEs on.
And I agree it is very sad that they have taken out the most enjoyable and relaxing aspect of this game simply because some failures were caused by the difficulty level being affected by folks with OP ships whom weren't like me and a few others whom got off on rescuing weaker folks whom had trouble with probes and /or loosed cubes they couldn't kill. So how am I supposed to feel like a hero now...? And how am I supposed to relax while PvEing...?
I think they now MUST bring back Elite Khit and other STFs...as they are removing all challenge from them while making other PvEs that are very time consuming or just too hard for most folks to complete. A friend in game made a great suggestion on this last point: instead of making it so that we can't bypass movies we ave seen too many times, and thus wasting alot of our time if everyone in the PvE feels the same...why not make it so that it will only force the movie to be watched if any 1 of team doesn't want to bypass it. This would sure make private matches with experienced teams far less frustrating and time consuming. Just saying.
Anyway... thx for info folks... now I can quit hoping it was a glitch and avoid KSA and other SYFs until the elites are brought back or the advanced on are made at least at advanced level again.

shadowwraith77

The majority of your whinners, are people who cannot grasp the concept of strategy, cannot grasp the concept of objectives, cannot grasp the concept of anything going on around them outside of what they are doing only, than we move on to those who care only about not being challenging so it requires no actual work on their part, and the ever popular farmers which prefer to leech off of everyone else while they do nothing.

So, these changes have benefitted them drastically!!!

harlequinpixie

There is no need to stop shooting the probes because the mission won't fail. I have no clue about others, but I like to do the optional, just for the accolades and because I'm a bit OCD about these things.

nikephorus

I personally think that the insta fail was stupid. This was a good change.

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darkbladejk

macarthur1961 wrote: »

The last few days I have noticed a very disturbing change in Khitomer Space Advanced...it appears that it no longer causes a failure when probes are not stopped from going thru the gate to escape. Surely this is a bug...as it has turned KSA into KSfD... Khit Spc for dummies. Even a mentally challenged gnat could win it the way it is right now.
I sure hope this is fixed asap... as I do anywhere from 6-24 KSAs a day. I sure won't be doing it anymore tho if it is going to stay this way. It is much easier than a normal one now... so if it is to stay as it is now... name should be changed to Khitomer Space the Kindergarten of STFs.

Even under the old elites prior to the difficulty revamp and that shebang it was always setup so that you didn't fail if a lone probe gets through. You would fail the optional but not he mission as a whole. When they revamp came folks refused to adapt and too many khitomers were failing. While I agree it shouldn't have been rocket science to folks, that's exactly what it turned into for a great many people. Due to inability to adapt, either willful or just not good enough, whatever you choose to blame, it made it far more of a pain than what it was worth. Not to mention the moment when that 1 in a million chance for things to go horribly horribly wrong indeed actually happens and you miss one.

Stuff like this is also why i wanted to see elites come into play for this mission but so far we've not been given one. If they're constantly failing then try getting a group of like minded folks from fleet or wherever to run the mission with you.

You still fail the mission if you let 10 probes get through. The only thing that changed is that now you no longer fail on the first probe.

shadowwraith77

darkbladejk wrote: »

macarthur1961 wrote: »

The last few days I have noticed a very disturbing change in Khitomer Space Advanced...it appears that it no longer causes a failure when probes are not stopped from going thru the gate to escape. Surely this is a bug...as it has turned KSA into KSfD... Khit Spc for dummies. Even a mentally challenged gnat could win it the way it is right now.
I sure hope this is fixed asap... as I do anywhere from 6-24 KSAs a day. I sure won't be doing it anymore tho if it is going to stay this way. It is much easier than a normal one now... so if it is to stay as it is now... name should be changed to Khitomer Space the Kindergarten of STFs.

Even under the old elites prior to the difficulty revamp and that shebang it was always setup so that you didn't fail if a lone probe gets through. You would fail the optional but not he mission as a whole. When they revamp came folks refused to adapt and too many khitomers were failing. While I agree it shouldn't have been rocket science to folks, that's exactly what it turned into for a great many people. Due to inability to adapt, either willful or just not good enough, whatever you choose to blame, it made it far more of a pain than what it was worth. Not to mention the moment when that 1 in a million chance for things to go horribly horribly wrong indeed actually happens and you miss one.

Stuff like this is also why i wanted to see elites come into play for this mission but so far we've not been given one. If they're constantly failing then try getting a group of like minded folks from fleet or wherever to run the mission with you.

You still fail the mission if you let 10 probes get through. The only thing that changed is that now you no longer fail on the first probe.

That's still part of the problem though, as player(s) still tend to allow 10 probes thru failing the mission, because objectives are just hard for them to fathom [sarcasm]!

sheldonlcooper

I tried this yesterday to see what the hubub was about. Did they lower the probe hp? They were dying to by grav wells before I could hit them with a spread.