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The ''Insurrection'' Enterprise E

Does the ''Insurrection'' Enterprise E have a plain white color scheme as in ''First Contact'', or is it more of a greyish style color?

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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 59,174 Community Moderator
    Well... the Ent-E didn't really get a refit until sometime between Insurrection and Nemesis... so... hm... not really sure. Lighting between First Contact and Insurrection may have been a factor...

    I honestly don't know.
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  • farmallmfarmallm Member Posts: 4,630 Arc User
    I think it was the same color scheme. Depending on the views of the ship in the light.

    Acutally it did get a minor refit between the 3 movies. Specially for the 3rd movie. They moved the nacelle pylons forward some. Added more phaser banks on the rear of the ship. New placements was on the nacelle pylons. Added hull to the back of the saucer for a nicer transition. Also the Bridge module got upgraded too. I used to draw the ships during school. And when Nemesis came out, I had to update my drawings.
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  • dracounguisdracounguis Member Posts: 5,358 Arc User
    edited December 2015
    I don't think any of the Enterprises after TOS were just 'plain white'. They all had some pretty involved patterning. It's just the shooting of the models makes them look like they are a single color. Anyone who bought the 1701-D model kit and saw the instruction booklet for painting it, knows it wasn't one solid color! ;)
  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,921 Arc User
    farmallm wrote: »
    I think it was the same color scheme. Depending on the views of the ship in the light.

    Acutally it did get a minor refit between the 3 movies. Specially for the 3rd movie. They moved the nacelle pylons forward some. Added more phaser banks on the rear of the ship. New placements was on the nacelle pylons. Added hull to the back of the saucer for a nicer transition. Also the Bridge module got upgraded too. I used to draw the ships during school. And when Nemesis came out, I had to update my drawings.

    They don't have those new phaser strips on the STO model right? I swore last time I played a Assault Cruiser beams were clipping through the nacelles, which always bothered me.
  • theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 6,102 Arc User
    I don't think any of the Enterprises after TOS were just 'plain white'. They all had some pretty involved patterning. It's just the shooting of the models makes them look like they are a single color. Anyone who bought the 1701-D model kit and saw the instruction booklet for painting it, knows it wasn't one solid color! ;)

    I've got the eaglemoss 1701-D on my desk, it's different shades of grey with the aztecing
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    • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
      edited December 2015
      Starfleet ships, especially the "hero ships" since TOS have had complicated "Aztec" patterns on it. This was true with the Constitution-Refit Enterprise/Enterprise-A. This continued on with the Enterprise-D and even -E.

      The Sovereign-class Enterprise-E however holds the distinction of having 3 different looks for the same class without a big change like the Constitution-class did with her refit. Two of the looks for a canon Sovereign I personally refer to in the following ways: First Contact and Nemesis versions are huge contrasting appearances. Insurrection however came out in between the two movies and it has a look that looking back, is an "in between" of the two looks and IMO. First Contact's is bright and bold. Nemesis' was darker but a complicated and very detailed appearance. Insurrection's was very subdued with a much more even, overall medium grey appearance.

      First Contact is the first time the Sovereign-class has been shown. That is the image of the clean, near-white with a bit of black trim. It does have small patterns noticeable when you get closer to the ship. FYI, First Contact was the last Star Trek production with physical models. This page has good screencaps of the First Contact Enterprise-E.

      Nemesis, the last of the TNG-crew movies, has the final version of a canon Sovereign-class. It's a definitely darker grey, blue-gray scheme with a highly complicated pattern that I'd never try to paint on a physical model without the use of stencils. Unfortunately, finding good, clear, HD shots of the Nemesis version is very hard to come by. The lack of quality shots of this version of the ship off the movie is frustrating. It almost makes me want to get the movie to make screencaps of the ship.

      Almost.

      Ex-Astris has a nice, small page on the 3 different Sovereign-class depictions. Unfortunately the pics aren't HD/large.

      Edit: I want to toss in mention of my old "A T6 Sovereign Request" thread that a bunch of guys have commented in. Anyways, my OP in that thread goes into some details for the canon appearances of the Sovereign-class.
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    • sunfranckssunfrancks Member Posts: 3,925 Arc User
      Depended on lighting, but even the First Contact Enterprise didn't have a plain white hull..

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    • theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 6,102 Arc User
      sunfrancks wrote: »
      Depended on lighting, but even the First Contact Enterprise didn't have a plain white hull..

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      good example of the Sovereign's aztecing
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      • e30erneste30ernest Member Posts: 1,794 Arc User
        This is a good watch on the development of this ship from its inception to its continued development over the films:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrjfvzJ-Xq0
      • theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 6,102 Arc User
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        • kopperud001kopperud001 Member Posts: 5 Arc User
          *BUMP*

          Okay, so with the new textures for the Sovereign: What should I go for? :smiley:

          First Contact: Type 6 with the secondary color being a tiny bit darker

          Insurrection: Type1, just plain grey

          Nemesis: Type 5 with the secondary color being dark (012, 013)


          Feel free to leave suggestions! I've just made up these out of pics of the E :smile:
        • thomaselkinsthomaselkins Member Posts: 575 Arc User
          It depends what the T6 looks like, but if I don't like any part of it then I would probably go with the full Sovereign Class parts and use the Type 7 material with Type 5 windows.
        • ssbn655ssbn655 Member Posts: 1,894 Arc User
          edited November 2016
          I don't think any of the Enterprises after TOS were just 'plain white'. They all had some pretty involved patterning. It's just the shooting of the models makes them look like they are a single color. Anyone who bought the 1701-D model kit and saw the instruction booklet for painting it, knows it wasn't one solid color! ;)

          Neither was the TOS Enterprise white. I suggest you take a good look at the correctly restored Enterprise at the NASM. It is actually an over all greenish grey with many other colors on it. The white is an artfact of the lighting of the day and the matte process.
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        • theotherscotty#9105 theotherscotty Member Posts: 385 Arc User
          I always thought it was several shades of grey. It never looked white to me. White would've been too bright.
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        • redeyedravenredeyedraven Member Posts: 1,297 Arc User
          edited November 2016
          Does the ''Insurrection'' Enterprise E have a plain white color scheme as in ''First Contact'', or is it more of a greyish style color?

          the only difference between FC's and I's Enterprise was the transition from an actual studio-model to full CGI. Visually, there was no real difference as the CGI-model was basically the digitized studio-model.

          For ST:Nemesis however, the Enterprise-E was from Insurrection was discarded and digitally rebuilt from scratch, as a new effects-company was hired.


          This video points out the facts behind the scenes.


          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrjfvzJ-Xq0"]https://youtube.com/watch?v=QrjfvzJ-Xq0
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          nccmark wrote: »
          Why the $%/# is someone bumping a thread from 11 months ago?

          Cut the ****.

          Who died and made you hall monitor? Don't read it if you don't like it. If they're serious about necro threads, they'll set the board to lock threads after 30 days inactivity.
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          hanover2 wrote: »
          nccmark wrote: »
          Why the $%/# is someone bumping a thread from 11 months ago?

          Cut the ****.

          Who died and made you hall monitor? Don't read it if you don't like it. If they're serious about necro threads, they'll set the board to lock threads after 30 days inactivity.

          Threads on these forums don't auto-lock after a period of time, there is no safety lock to keep people from breaking the anti-necro rule. The notion that rule violations aren't taken seriously is absurd, friend.
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