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Hybrid Faction Vessels (Rom et al)

The subject of the need for new romulan vessels has been discussed extensively--particularly the need for more sci vessels, but I wanted to throw out the idea for hybrid vessels and see what you guys think about it.

On the one hand, if i'm running an imperial themed rom (like my newest alt,) the restriction of the tier 5+ ships to exclusively romulan makes sense, BUT, the general trend and majority of rom PCs are polarized to either fed or kdf, and we've heard quite a bit of whining and btching (yes, some of it my own) over the prohibitation that prevents higer level rom not being allowed to use those fancy tier5+ ships of their allied faction.

For a possible solution to this i'd like to suggest 'hybrid faction' ships that include the benefits and stylings of two factions. in particular i'm thinking of ships that can use allied ship type specific consoles, have ship type specific benefits, such as raider flanking but still retain the rom battle cloak. these rom hybrid ships should utilize sing warp cores imo, and should be limited to rom of the appropriate faction.

And for a ship exclusively available to fedklink, a fed/kdf hybrid bc with a a fed central saucer off of which protrude kdf pylons, nacelles and extended neck....default weaponry on this should be dis/photon...or maybe this could be some future mirror t6?

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  • sunseahlsunseahl Member Posts: 827 Arc User
    Cryptic... make a new type of ship for a faction that "doesn't sell well" ? I think you're asking the wrong people....​​
    Member of the "Disenchanted"
    We don't want what the Feds have. We want the equivalent. We want fairer treatment. Concern, desire, greed to some extent, and passionate belief that the enough people would buy KDF items to make it worth Cryptic's while.
  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    Hybrid faction ships make me think of the DSDs. In a very negative way.
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  • meldrithpwmeldrithpw Member Posts: 360 Arc User
    sunseahl wrote: »
    Cryptic... make a new type of ship for a faction that "doesn't sell well" ? I think you're asking the wrong people....​​

    that's part of the idea, to boost interest (and sales) in the faction, expanding the market and yeilding new potential venues of income for the guys running the game.

  • meldrithpwmeldrithpw Member Posts: 360 Arc User
    Hybrid faction ships make me think of the DSDs. In a very negative way.

    nod. while IMO the rom dyson ships are the best of the lot, largely because of the rom battle cloak and the exta singularity core abilities, the kdf dyson seems to leave a bit to be desired. the kdf one feels forced, more like just a fed vessel with a kdf paint job.

  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    sounds kinda like you want munchkin vessels that min/max the best traits of fed/rom and klink/rom ship abilities/traits.
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    tacofangs wrote: »
    STO isn't canon, and neither are any of the books.
  • meldrithpwmeldrithpw Member Posts: 360 Arc User
    sounds kinda like you want munchkin vessels that min/max the best traits of fed/rom and klink/rom ship abilities/traits.

    I do. NOW with more PANASCHE!
  • kjwashingtonkjwashington Member Posts: 2,529 Arc User
    I started a thread a while ago asking people if they think that the next anniversary ship should be a ship that has visual design elements of the three factions. I think that the response was pretty negative.
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    Support 90 degree arc limitation on BFaW! Save our ships from looking like flying disco balls of dumb!
  • sunseahlsunseahl Member Posts: 827 Arc User
    I started a thread a while ago asking people if they think that the next anniversary ship should be a ship that has visual design elements of the three factions. I think that the response was pretty negative.

    Because the Dyson was just SUCH a success, ya know?​​
    Member of the "Disenchanted"
    We don't want what the Feds have. We want the equivalent. We want fairer treatment. Concern, desire, greed to some extent, and passionate belief that the enough people would buy KDF items to make it worth Cryptic's while.
  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,896 Arc User
    sunseahl wrote: »
    I started a thread a while ago asking people if they think that the next anniversary ship should be a ship that has visual design elements of the three factions. I think that the response was pretty negative.

    Because the Dyson was just SUCH a success, ya know?​​

    Yeah...it has nothing to do with this entitled community who seems to think anything that isn't best in class sucks...
    Can't have a honest conversation because of a white knight with power
  • sunseahlsunseahl Member Posts: 827 Arc User
    edited December 2015
    meldrithpw wrote: »
    sunseahl wrote: »
    Cryptic... make a new type of ship for a faction that "doesn't sell well" ? I think you're asking the wrong people....

    that's part of the idea, to boost interest (and sales) in the faction, expanding the market and yeilding new potential venues of income for the guys running the game.

    You misunderstand how "marketing" is defined at cryptic. If it's not the Federation it "doesn't sell" and so things aren't made unless they "have to." If you really want an in-depth analysis of how Cryptic fails its customers at both marketing and service there's a player by the name of authurious that can lay it out in very specific detail. I hear it all the time. XD
    lianthelia wrote: »
    sunseahl wrote: »
    I started a thread a while ago asking people if they think that the next anniversary ship should be a ship that has visual design elements of the three factions. I think that the response was pretty negative.

    Because the Dyson was just SUCH a success, ya know?

    Yeah...it has nothing to do with this entitled community who seems to think anything that isn't best in class sucks...

    Oh I hear ya... Not a week goes buy that some Feddy-bear isn't complaining about not having a T6 Connie... or deserving a better Vesta.... or having a LTS and deserving something for it....​​
    Member of the "Disenchanted"
    We don't want what the Feds have. We want the equivalent. We want fairer treatment. Concern, desire, greed to some extent, and passionate belief that the enough people would buy KDF items to make it worth Cryptic's while.
  • jslynjslyn Member Posts: 1,790 Arc User
    meldrithpw wrote: »
    And for a ship exclusively available to fedklink, a fed/kdf hybrid bc with a a fed central saucer off of which protrude kdf pylons, nacelles and extended neck....default weaponry on this should be dis/photon...or maybe this could be some future mirror t6?


    Like the ship from "Star Trek Renegades"?
  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,896 Arc User
    I still see the Dyson ship every now and then...even had a STF with one today...other ships I can't say that about.
    Can't have a honest conversation because of a white knight with power
  • sunseahlsunseahl Member Posts: 827 Arc User
    lianthelia wrote: »
    I still see the Dyson ship every now and then...even had a STF with one today...other ships I can't say that about.

    That's because even the free one is a decent ship. Cryptic's "sales" of the upgraded ships(the ones in the c-store... with the consoles), on the other hand, say the ship was a "failure."​​
    Member of the "Disenchanted"
    We don't want what the Feds have. We want the equivalent. We want fairer treatment. Concern, desire, greed to some extent, and passionate belief that the enough people would buy KDF items to make it worth Cryptic's while.
  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    meldrithpw wrote: »
    sounds kinda like you want munchkin vessels that min/max the best traits of fed/rom and klink/rom ship abilities/traits.

    I do. NOW with more PANASCHE!

    I see, well thanks for letting everyone know you just want to rub your epeen more and not actually do somethin conscructive
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    tacofangs wrote: »
    STO isn't canon, and neither are any of the books.
  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    The only hybrid faction ship I could potentially see would be a Republic-Vulcan hybrid, but the use of that ship (and it's design) would be questionable, especially since most Vulcan tech allegedly already goes into Starfleet ships. Would be the perfect excuse though to provide the Republic with an actual science ship.
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  • divvydavedivvydave Member Posts: 184 Arc User
    flash525 wrote: »
    The only hybrid faction ship I could potentially see would be a Republic-Vulcan hybrid, but the use of that ship (and it's design) would be questionable, especially since most Vulcan tech allegedly already goes into Starfleet ships. Would be the perfect excuse though to provide the Republic with an actual science ship.

    If they ever made a T6 D'kyr I wouldn't be against allowing Roms to use it, they could always say "because Romulan shipyards are busy building defensive ships the vulcans decided to loan the romulans their latest D'kyr in exchange for sharing the Roms scientific data/discoverys".

    Roms need sci ships and the above would explain it pretty well in canon imo.

    Two Birds One Stone :)
  • meldrithpwmeldrithpw Member Posts: 360 Arc User
    divvydave wrote: »
    flash525 wrote: »
    The only hybrid faction ship I could potentially see would be a Republic-Vulcan hybrid, but the use of that ship (and it's design) would be questionable, especially since most Vulcan tech allegedly already goes into Starfleet ships. Would be the perfect excuse though to provide the Republic with an actual science ship.

    If they ever made a T6 D'kyr I wouldn't be against allowing Roms to use it, they could always say "because Romulan shipyards are busy building defensive ships the vulcans decided to loan the romulans their latest D'kyr in exchange for sharing the Roms scientific data/discoverys".

    Roms need sci ships and the above would explain it pretty well in canon imo.

    Two Birds One Stone :)

    +1 for T6 D'kyr as a ship available to both fed and rom (regardless of alliance). for the framework, instead of the rotating ring, maybe the DD/ael type frame for the core of the ship with a fixed vertical ring to the rear. possibly with a new version of the red matter console? perhaps with a hangar slot instead of the built in tal'kyr support craft?

    as for cannon hybrids in general, what about the khitomer romklink hybrid colony that Worf found? yeah, sure, they're a bunch of peaceniks, with limited resources, but that doesn't mean they couldn't have designed a workable ship that some ferengi backer could see as having serious profit potential....
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