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Structural Integrity Field Siphon console not included on Fleet issued Eclipse cruiser?

khregkhreg Member Posts: 379 Arc User
in Star Trek Online General Discussion
Just bought my Fleet Eclipse about a week ago and just now noticed that no Structural Integrity Field Siphon console came with it.
Was it possibly traded out for the higher hit points not included in the c-store version?
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  • happyhappyj0yj0yhappyhappyj0yj0y Member Posts: 699 Arc User
    Fleet ships don't get consoles or starship traits. Note the console isn't listed in the stats at the ship vendor. The console and trait are sold via the store.

    If it helps, the console isn't very good.
  • divvydavedivvydave Member Posts: 184 Arc User
    You don't get any consoles with fleet ships, never have. Also note: T6 fleet ships have no T5 mastery trait.
  • royalsovereignroyalsovereign Member Posts: 1,344 Arc User
    Yes, the whole idea with fleet ships is that you're encouraged to buy the C-Store version (which gets the console and, at T6, a starship trait, and is available to all your characters of that faction), then with the discount (sorry KDF) you buy the Fleet ship for an add'l $5 to get the stronger hull and shields and the extra console slot for the characters you really want the best for. Of course, for those folks who don't care about consoles or having the same ship on multiple characters, just buying the fleet ship for $20-25 represents a small discount over the C-Store ship + Fleet.
    "You Iconians just hung a vacancy sign on your asses and my foot's looking for a room!"
    --Red Annorax
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  • officerbatman81officerbatman81 Member Posts: 2,761 Arc User
    edited December 2015
    Jimney Crickets not another one of these.

    Are schools failing kids on their reading level or ability to scower a knowledge base for answers?
    Post edited by officerbatman81 on
  • berginsbergins Member Posts: 3,453 Arc User
    Hey Bruce Wayne:

    Whaaaat??
    "Logic is a little tweeting bird chirping in a meadow. Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers which smell BAD." - Spock
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  • khregkhreg Member Posts: 379 Arc User
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    Wheeee...this again. At least the OP isn't foaming at the mouth and accusing cryptic of bait and switch nonsense.

    Reading...it's OP. Remember that you get what they say you get when you buy it. If it's not on the list of items...don't expect for it to come with it.

    Nope, no mouth-foaming. Just a question. Makes sense that a ship you don't pay RL money for wouldn't have 100% of the perks. Thing runs fine and is making it possible for me to do missions I couldn't complete in a T5. I'm happy with it.

    For those that were upset with my question.....well, I don't care. :)
  • khregkhreg Member Posts: 379 Arc User
    happyhappyj0yj0y wrote: »
    Fleet ships don't get consoles or starship traits. Note the console isn't listed in the stats at the ship vendor. The console and trait are sold via the store.

    If it helps, the console isn't very good.

    Awesome. Thanks!
  • berginsbergins Member Posts: 3,453 Arc User
    Well alleluia, that's a breath of fresh air.
    "Logic is a little tweeting bird chirping in a meadow. Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers which smell BAD." - Spock
  • khregkhreg Member Posts: 379 Arc User
    divvydave wrote: »
    You don't get any consoles with fleet ships, never have. Also note: T6 fleet ships have no T5 mastery trait.

    Yeah, I noticed. No biggie.
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  • khregkhreg Member Posts: 379 Arc User
    edited December 2015

    Honestly, don't have an issue with a question. Asking is a good thing. I think people are getting burned out however because of other people not you instead of asking would go off the rails because they just assumed without reading and somehow it's everyone else's fault and not their own. I think you did well in your first post...even if my reply was a bit flippant (but that's just me).



    Fuggettabouddit! My thinking was the aforementioned trade-off on the hull strength. Fleet version seems to have more oomph!
  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,693 Arc User
    edited December 2015
    It does seem like Cryptic could make this a bit clearer, for those who just skim and who never read the forums until it's too late. Something at the TOP of the ship description like:

    Note: fleet ships DO NOT include the ship console or mastery trait from the C-Store version.

    If that was line 1 of the description in ship & shuttle requisitions I'd be all for putting the boot in to anyone who starts a thread about them being missing :)
  • ssbn655ssbn655 Member Posts: 1,894 Arc User
    khreg wrote: »
    Just bought my Fleet Eclipse about a week ago and just now noticed that no Structural Integrity Field Siphon console came with it.
    Was it possibly traded out for the higher hit points not included in the c-store version?

    Sigh yet another person who didnt read what comes with a Fleet ship and Waht comes with a C-store one. Sorry if you don't take the time to read the over view or specs you have only yourself to blame.
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    Groundhogs Day all over again.
    'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
    Judge Dan Haywood
    'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
    l don't know.
    l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
    That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
    Lt. Philip J. Minns
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    One simple rule, to rule them all at the Shipyard Vendor:

    If the Ship has a Zen cost or a Zen Symbol with zero cost, IT HAS A CONSOLE and for T6 Ships IT HAS A T5 MASTERY.

    If the cost is expressed in ANY OTHER CURRENCY, IT HAS NEITHER.
    'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
    Judge Dan Haywood
    'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
    l don't know.
    l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
    That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
    Lt. Philip J. Minns
  • imperatorpaveliimperatorpaveli Member Posts: 346 Arc User
    ltminns wrote: »
    One simple rule, to rule them all at the Shipyard Vendor:

    If the Ship has a Zen cost or a Zen Symbol with zero cost, IT HAS A CONSOLE and for T6 Ships IT HAS A T5 MASTERY.

    If the cost is expressed in ANY OTHER CURRENCY, IT HAS NEITHER, unless it is a T6 event ship.

    Corrected for truth.
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    What T6 Event Ships are at the Shipyard Vendor? They are available from the Event Reputation Store (only).
    'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
    Judge Dan Haywood
    'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
    l don't know.
    l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
    That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
    Lt. Philip J. Minns
  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,693 Arc User
    The Vet / LTS T5 tac ships include a console, and the T6s include both console and mastery. So they go on the exception list too. But anyway, Cryptic would be doing a favor to people if they'd highlight the lack of both in Fleet versions more clearly.
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    You don't pay for the Veteran/LTS Ship per se but they are an exception and would not be the subject of 'Rage' Posts, that 'I was dun cheated by those slick folks at that darned Cryptic'. ;)
    'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
    Judge Dan Haywood
    'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
    l don't know.
    l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
    That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
    Lt. Philip J. Minns
  • narthaisnarthais Member Posts: 452 Arc User
    davefenestrator wrote: »
    The Vet / LTS T5 tac ships include a console, and the T6s include both console and mastery. So they go on the exception list too. But anyway, Cryptic would be doing a favor to people if they'd highlight the lack of both in Fleet versions more clearly.

    The fleet version of the vet ship still needs the module and FC but it doesn't come with the console or trait either.
  • jorantomalakjorantomalak Member Posts: 7,133 Arc User
    these threads remind me of this song
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LI3tSF7E5VU
  • hyperionx09hyperionx09 Member Posts: 1,709 Arc User
    Mandatory Reading Quiz over Fleet vs C-Store ships when?
  • rimmarierimmarie Member Posts: 418 Arc User
    this again?!

    It hasn't even been a week.
    Really people.

    Maybe They DO need to add a pop-up with a loud alarm and hyperionx09's disclaimer:
    hyperionx09 wrote: »
    They should put a massive disclaimer in all caps, that basically says:

    DISCLAIMER:
    - FLEET SHIPS DO NOT COME WITH A 5TH MASTERY TRAIT, DO NOT HAVE A UNIQUE CONSOLE, AND DO NOT HAVE FREE ACCESS TO RELATED C-STORE SHIP SKINS YOU HAVE NOT PURCHASED.
    - FLEET SHIPS ARE SINGLE-CHARACTER UNLOCKS. YOU WILL HAVE TO PAY THE SAME PRICE AGAIN SHOULD YOU DISCHARGE A FLEET SHIP.
    - PURCHASING A FLEET SHIP ON ONE CHARACTER DOES NOT DISCOUNT FLEET SHIP PURCHASES ON ANOTHER CHARACTER OF THE SAME ACCOUNT.
    - FLEET SHIPS REQUIRE BEING A MEMBER OF A FLEET WITH THE APPROPRIATE FACILITIES CONSTRUCTED.
    - FLEET SHIPS REQUIRE PURCHASING RIGHTS FROM THE FLEET YOU JOINED.
    - WE LEAVE FLEET PURCHASING RIGHTS HANDLING TO THE FLEET LEADERS.
    - FLEET SHIPS DO NOT COME WITH UNIQUE WEAPONS.
    - FLEET SHIPS DO NOT COME WITH BRIDGE OFFICERS.
    - FLEET SHIPS DO NOT COME WITH UNIQUE BRIDGE INTERIORS.
    - WE ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE NOR REQUIRED TO RESPOND TO CLAIMS OF FALSE ADVERTISEMENT DUE TO READING COMPREHENSION FAILURE.
    - ASSUME LISTED STATS ARE FINAL. IF IT'S NOT LISTED, IT LIKELY DOESN'T HAVE IT ON RELEASE.
    - ALL LISTED STATS AND EQUIPMENT ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE WITHOUT NOTICE, AND WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO MAKE ANY CHANGES BEFORE, DURING, AND AFTER RELEASE.

    What else have I missed that's been endlessly argued as far as Fleet ships go?
  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User
    edited December 2015
    officerbatman81 wrote: »
    Are schools fails kids on their reading level or ability to scower a knowledge base for answers?

    Word of advice.

    If you're going to post and question someones intelligence or ability to compose or comprehend a sentence, then at least use proper grammar yourself. That sentence is a train wreck of poor grammar and punctuation.

    All the OP did was ask a simple question, he didn't rant, he didn't carry on.. he just asked.

    Is it really necessary to pile on him like this? The forums are here for people to ask questions, they shouldn't be attacked for it.
    Insert witty signature line here.
  • berginsbergins Member Posts: 3,453 Arc User
    Oy! All these people, berating the OP for not reading, when they haven't actually read what the OP says.
    "Logic is a little tweeting bird chirping in a meadow. Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers which smell BAD." - Spock
  • jorantomalakjorantomalak Member Posts: 7,133 Arc User
    bergins wrote: »
    Oy! All these people, berating the OP for not reading, when they haven't actually read what the OP says.

    I read what the OP posted just fine , and he should've been more observant of the simple facts if a fleet ship came with consoles and traits it would state so in the ship descriptions.

  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User
    edited December 2015
    Obviously it wasn't a big deal to the the OP. He even said he's had the ship for a week and just noticed, so obviously it wasn't a major concern to him.

    He noticed he didn't have the console, came here and asked a simple question. His question was met with an unreasonable amount of hostility.

    Some of you people need to chill out, it's one thing if he started an angry rant and flew off the handle, but he didn't. You guys are just looking for a reason to attack.

    The OP just asked a simple question for crying out loud. He/she did nothing wrong.
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