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Tips on earning the new winter ship?

I was a bit green last year and didn't really know what I was doing back then so I didn't take the ship grinding seriously. In fact, I didn't bother with the ship grind, I think I was concentrating on getting the breen warp core.....or something. I may have remembered wrong but did you have to WIN one of the races in order to get Qmendation? Or is it just participation only? I vague remember reading about it then go "I'm never going to win one of these races without all the fancy gears other people have" and gave up on it. Did I read wrong?
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 59,174 Community Moderator
    Yes you did.

    I'll be posting a tip thread in a few. The PvE race is doable even on a fresh lv 10.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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  • sheldonlcoopersheldonlcooper Member Posts: 4,042 Arc User
    That's the wrong race. The race for the ship you get from the Breen in the Gazebo. Then you go down the steps and just to the left is the starting line where there is another Breen. In this race - the fastest game on ice - you just have to beat a slow npc.
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  • dirlettiadirlettia Member Posts: 1,632 Arc User
    To be fair the 'slo' NPC moves at a pace about half way between walking and sprinting so you need to keep moving, but if you find you need to practise this type of race just go play any rally game (like colin macrae rally or similar) and you will see about how turning before you get to the corner will allow you to go round the corner without slowing or jumping. When you can do that the race is a piece of cake and you can do it with the keyboard while watching TV and eating breakfast.

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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    It might take some time to get used to steering yourself on the ice, but once you got it down, you will be able to win pretty reliably on the first try. It's certainly more difficult then the Summer Event grind task, but it's not so hard that anyone should consistently fail to beat it.
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  • sheldonlcoopersheldonlcooper Member Posts: 4,042 Arc User
    I hope Rattler does post a tips thread as we have problems with this every year. There are a number of winning strategies. I use the sprint then roll. Sprint on straitaway then when a curve is coming doubletap W then face the right direction and sprint again.
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  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,865 Arc User
    For the NPC race, learn what parts of the track are safe for you to sprint on without losing control and going off the path. You only need to sprint part of the time to beat the NPC, not full-time.
  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    I hope Rattler does post a tips thread as we have problems with this every year. There are a number of winning strategies. I use the sprint then roll. Sprint on straitaway then when a curve is coming doubletap W then face the right direction and sprint again.

    I don't use the roll method. But I have to play again to remember how my "method" works.
    For the NPC race, learn what parts of the track are safe for you to sprint on without losing control and going off the path. You only need to sprint part of the time to beat the NPC, not full-time.
    Or maybe I just need to have davefenestrator explain. I think that is the basic of what I do.
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  • hyperionx09hyperionx09 Member Posts: 1,709 Arc User
    If you're good with timing your turns and knowing the amount of slip, you could just walk the entire race with the Ice Boots active, then sprinting on the final stretch for a lot of speed.
  • officerbatman81officerbatman81 Member Posts: 2,761 Arc User
    From my experience, there is a learning curve of trial and error, i lost a lot of races at first and was very bleak and thought id never get the Sarr Theln. After reading tips and videos i became a professional at it. All my toons got the ship, they had to earn it individually because this was before acct unlocks.

    Once you know the trick its easy.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 59,174 Community Moderator
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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  • storulesstorules Member Posts: 3,340 Arc User
    Why making two different threads on same subject...couldn't they just post tips here dino1-9.gif​​
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  • storulesstorules Member Posts: 3,340 Arc User
    Tips:

    Run forward. You start sliding if you make sudden turns, so choose straight lines for your sprinting to avoid wipe-outs.
    When you come up to a bend, press your Jump key, and at the same time let go of the Forward key! When you land you'll be at a dead stop.
    Turn to the new direction, and press the Forward + Sprint keys again to start moving.
    Repeat steps 1-3 until you get to the end.

    Protips:
    Both the individual and PvP race tracks can be navigated with minimal turns. Cut down on jumping and stopping to maximize your sprinting.
    For faster turning, you can actually face the new direction during the jump, while in the air. Shaves off a few milliseconds when you start sprinting, and could mean the difference between win and loss in PvP race.
    In PvP race Bumping into globs of ice slows you down. Use the ones at turns to your advantage for turning without the Jump/stop trick, but be careful not to bump into them while sprinting on the straight lines, as that will slow you down as well.​​
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  • bubblegirl2015bubblegirl2015 Member Posts: 831 Arc User
    More tips:

    If you have problems with the sliding and jumping and rolling:
    Don't sprint, simply jog and cut some of the corners. Look down the track and try and make it as straight a path as possible. And you can take off several seconds early. When the countdown starts you can start with the forward button. You'll get a good head start and then jog. If you want to sprint at the end then fine, but it normally isnt necessary. The NPCs take all sorts of crazy long paths, so you just need to be in front of them. You don't need to smoke them, it isn't a timed race, just get across the finish first. Jogging saves A LOT of momentum. If you use the boots or sprint you'll slide and have to compensate. If you jog, you won't slide nearly as much.​​
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  • bubblegirl2015bubblegirl2015 Member Posts: 831 Arc User
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 59,174 Community Moderator
    storules wrote: »
    Why making two different threads on same subject...couldn't they just post tips here dino1-9.gif​​

    I had planned on making a thread before this thread appeared. Also... wanted a title that screamed "Tips here!" for easy reference.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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  • cidjackcidjack Member Posts: 2,017 Arc User
    What I do is use the lobi I have saved upped and buy the winter currency. Then I get the ship on the first day, kick back and enjoy the rest of the winter event.
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  • lucho80lucho80 Member Posts: 6,600 Bug Hunter
    Unlike the Summer event, the Winter event race is quick and painless. Couple of minutes of my day and I'm done.
  • lingeringsoul888lingeringsoul888 Member Posts: 509 Arc User
    looking forward to my Breen ship....exciting.
  • bobbydazlersbobbydazlers Member Posts: 4,535 Arc User
    edited December 2015
    its even quicker and easier now you only have to do the pve race on one character to get the ship for all of your characters.

    go on youtube and search "fastest game on ice" to find how to videos of the race.

    don't fret if you fail the first time, you have infinite replays so you can keep at it until you get it right.

    pity you missed last years ship its pretty awesome for a freebie, cant say if this years ship will be as good in combat though it does look impressive.

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  • bobbydazlersbobbydazlers Member Posts: 4,535 Arc User
    edited December 2015
    cidjack wrote: »
    What I do is use the lobi I have saved upped and buy the winter currency. Then I get the ship on the first day, kick back and enjoy the rest of the winter event.

    that is one method though a very expensive one, lockboxs contain a random number of lobi I believe and there are a random number (2 - 6) of ship project tokens in the Q's token Package that cost 5 lobi each.
    so if you get say 5 lobi in each lockbox and if unlucky could have to open as many as 500 Q packs to get the 1000 tokens you need for the ship it could require buying 100 keys to open the lockboxs to get enough lobi.
    that works out at about $125 to get what is supposed to be a free ship.

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    maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,

     and if that journey takes a little longer,

    so we can do something we all believe in,

     I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.

  • bubblegirl2015bubblegirl2015 Member Posts: 831 Arc User
    Another one:

    Physical Conditioning passive ground trait from Tier 1 of Delta reputation does work in Winter Wonderland. It's a 5% run speed boost. Not much, but every little bit helps. You will have leave WW in order to slot the trait, and come back in.​​
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  • dragnridrdragnridr Member Posts: 671 Arc User
    Best tactic that I have learned to use is go full sprint the entire race and turn BEFORE you get to the turn so that when you reach the turn, you are already moving straight. More or less drifting. Play some need for speed and just practice.
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  • cidjackcidjack Member Posts: 2,017 Arc User
    Bobby,

    Lobi is just in game currency, it holds no RL monetary value. Some people who see it in real money terms, in those cases they are most likely selling in game stuff for money on gold sites.
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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User
    I use the 'ol double tap roll.. works every time.

    The video provided by @bubblegirl2015 shows you exactly how to do it. After 1 or 2 runs you'll be an expert and win every single time.

    It's the easiest grind in the game. :)
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  • lordsteve1lordsteve1 Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    Rolling, jumping (jump and let go of the fwd key when in the air to stop dead when landing) and also using the delta rep trait (5% run speed boost) plus counter command armour (speed boost when coming out of a roll) gives you a nice easy time.

    Plus work out a route that uses the least turns, you can go in straight lines at at least 10 stretches on the track and you can even cut the last hairpin completly if you know where to run!
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  • fiberteksyfirfiberteksyfir Member Posts: 1,207 Arc User
    The first couple gos at it yoy WILL get frustrated (thisll be my fourth one of these things and every year this happens) until you get into the flow and pattern of getting through the course, but its not difficult really
  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,016 Arc User
    edited December 2015
    The fastest game on ice is almost unfailable if you don't happen to be a klotz without the least bit of control. If you have played even a single racing game in your life (even if it's just Rad Racer on the NES) you're good.

    Seriously, the NPC shouldn't concern you. It cannot get past you when you just stay on the track because it moves on a set path and uses the longest possible route. You on the other claw have to familiarize yourself with the drift just a little bit, learn that rolling/dodging and jumping nullifies it's effect and try to test out the boundaries of the track (the indicators aren't the hard limit, you have some wiggle room which means you can sometimes jump right over the boundaries to cut corners).​​
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  • lucho80lucho80 Member Posts: 6,600 Bug Hunter
    edited December 2015
    There are parts of the race where you can just run straight because those little cone type limits are not set in stone. At this point I know where I can push it a bit and get to the end way faster, by not having to go left or right. The beginning portion is one part I jump through a snow bank to the right of a cone and keep going on a straight line.
  • berginsbergins Member Posts: 3,454 Arc User
    The snowy edges also give you a lot more traction on corners, so be sure to utilize edges around corners.
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