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Even if that quote is from the next mission

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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,008 Arc User
    I believe McCoy even treats some future-guys and the patroling security party also have one. It's always the same, though - ops division visor wearing future agent. His camouflage is not as clever as he thinks, though.​​
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  • jade1280jade1280 Member Posts: 868 Arc User
    angrytarg wrote: »
    I believe McCoy even treats some future-guys and the patroling security party also have one. It's always the same, though - ops division visor wearing future agent. His camouflage is not as clever as he thinks, though.​​

    You reckon someone in the timeline might have noticed.
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  • jslynjslyn Member Posts: 1,788 Arc User
    lindaleff wrote: »
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    Pish. He'll just beam himself all of the way back to Earth. Distance is no barrier for that man.
  • yakodymyakodym Member Posts: 363 Arc User
    Anyone tried that mission with a TOS uniform?
  • hawku001xhawku001x Member Posts: 10,768 Arc User
    I guess they were less uptight about time travel back then.

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  • bunansabunansa Member Posts: 928 Arc User
    yakodym wrote: »
    Anyone tried that mission with a TOS uniform?

    yep I do all the time just for "fitting in" but the response is always the same from the npcs.
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  • jade1280jade1280 Member Posts: 868 Arc User
    hawku001x wrote: »
    I guess they were less uptight about time travel back then.

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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    it's even more fun as a Romulan. :D
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  • gradiigradii Member Posts: 2,824 Arc User
    it's even more fun as a Romulan. :D

    Yeah, obvious Romulans on a 23rd century federation base and nobody bats an eye.

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  • farmallmfarmallm Member Posts: 4,630 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    Yeah that mission wasn't written out well at all. Most cases even in the shows/movies. They at least dress the part to "fit" in. Which is a shame they didn't do that for the mission. When they was redoing the missions that one should be redone as well. Since no VOs was required so it would be easily to fix in the texting and parts of it.

    Plus it really don't add up when your doing it on the Romulan and KDF. This is one reason why I hate doing that part of the arc. Horrible story, and it wouldn't bother me if they get rid of it.
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,602 Community Moderator
    bunansa wrote: »
    yakodym wrote: »
    Anyone tried that mission with a TOS uniform?

    yep I do all the time just for "fitting in" but the response is always the same from the npcs.

    I've done that. I've even worn the TOS Mirror Uniform.
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  • farmallmfarmallm Member Posts: 4,630 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    f2pdrakron wrote: »
    Why?

    I dont think the Klingons would want to mess with the timeline, they are there because the Devidians are as a threat to them as they are to the Federation unless you consider the entire sector being moved out of phase some kind of victory , Romulans are just doing a favor.

    Its a FE, its not going away.

    Its just a horrible story. Like I said even the shows they do time travel better as they don't want to disrupt the time too much. They can do costume changes in the FE. They done that before. So it could use a rewrite. Last few times I just click as fast as I could just to hurry on past it since I couldn't jump past it with my Delta to get the credit. Next time I will just skip it.

    FE not going away? Yeah keep telling youself that as they removed several over the years as they redone arcs. Those was FEs and they got removed. So if they decided it was part of their revamp. They can easily remove it.

    Rewrite or removal that part of the arc needs it.
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,602 Community Moderator
    farmallm wrote: »
    Its just a horrible story. Like I said even the shows they do time travel better as they don't want to disrupt the time too much. They can do costume changes in the FE. They done that before. So it could use a rewrite. Last few times I just click as fast as I could just to hurry on past it since I couldn't jump past it with my Delta to get the credit. Next time I will just skip it.

    FE not going away? Yeah keep telling youself that as they removed several over the years as they redone arcs. Those was FEs and they got removed. So if they decided it was part of their revamp. They can easily remove it.

    Rewrite or removal that part of the arc needs it.

    No actual FEs were removed. The missions in the Romulan and Cardassian arcs were not associated with any FEs.

    http://sto.gamepedia.com/Feature_episode
    The FE missions in the Romulan arc didn't start until "The Vault".
    The FE missions in the Cardassian arc didn't start until "Second Wave"

    And I believe an argument can be made that Scotty calling the player's unifrom funny looking is to take into account non C-Store uniforms like the Sierra 1, which by 23rd Century standards is a funny looking uniform. So basically... the comment about the Player's uniform does in fact fit in. There is no system in place to register if a player is wearing any particular outfit, stock or C-Store. It is a scripted line so Scotty will say it no matter what the player is wearing.

    The only reason to actually pull out a TOS uniform would be for role play imersion, aka fun.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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  • farmallmfarmallm Member Posts: 4,630 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    rattler2 wrote: »

    No actual FEs were removed. The missions in the Romulan and Cardassian arcs were not associated with any FEs.

    http://sto.gamepedia.com/Feature_episode
    The FE missions in the Romulan arc didn't start until "The Vault".
    The FE missions in the Cardassian arc didn't start until "Second Wave"

    And I believe an argument can be made that Scotty calling the player's unifrom funny looking is to take into account non C-Store uniforms like the Sierra 1, which by 23rd Century standards is a funny looking uniform. So basically... the comment about the Player's uniform does in fact fit in. There is no system in place to register if a player is wearing any particular outfit, stock or C-Store. It is a scripted line so Scotty will say it no matter what the player is wearing.

    The only reason to actually pull out a TOS uniform would be for role play imersion, aka fun.

    FEs or what they may be. Its all about the same to me. They just a mission.

    Reason why he said it was cause he was in the correct uniform at that time period. And then you show up in something not in current uniform for any group. Fed, KDF, or Romulan. If that is the case. Why does every time the shows/movies go back in time. The try to dress the part. So not to draw attention to themselves.

    Main reason why they added that part. Cause most players may not have the TOS uniforms to dress up in. I sure didn't the first time through. After that, I just didn't care and ran through it fast as possible since that part of the arc was pure trash.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    f2pdrakron wrote: »
    farmallm wrote: »
    Plus it really don't add up when your doing it on the Romulan and KDF. This is one reason why I hate doing that part of the arc. Horrible story, and it wouldn't bother me if they get rid of it.
    Why?

    I dont think the Klingons would want to mess with the timeline, they are there because the Devidians are as a threat to them as they are to the Federation unless you consider the entire sector being moved out of phase some kind of victory , Romulans are just doing a favor.

    Its a FE, its not going away.
    Also... the starbase is crawling with Klingons when you get there.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    The Romulan FEs got remastered for LoR. They play differently as a Romulan.

    They had bits added for the Delta event. But the overall mission story is still the same.
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  • bioixibioixi Member Posts: 764 Arc User
    Not to mention that we have to put our bullet firing sniper rifles to heavy stun.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,602 Community Moderator
    bioixi wrote: »
    Not to mention that we have to put our bullet firing sniper rifles to heavy stun.

    What? Never heard of Rubble Bullets or mini taser rounds? :p
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  • themetalstickmanthemetalstickman Member Posts: 1,010 Arc User
    bioixi wrote: »
    Not to mention that we have to put our bullet firing sniper rifles to heavy stun.

    But as the vast majority of the players probably won't have that...​​
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  • highlord83highlord83 Member Posts: 229 Arc User
    I was shaking my head when I went through that mission with my Fed-Rom. Four Romulans and a Reman, all decked out in Gamma armor and carrying automatic antiproton weapons. Totally legit.
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  • dareaudareau Member Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    yakodym wrote: »
    Anyone tried that mission with a TOS uniform?

    Yeah. My uniforms are just as funny as yours, for some odd reason...

    Unless he's commenting on the fact that there's a (now) Fleet Admiral running around with 4 Commanders on a base in the middle of a quarantine being told to help a measily Commander to rebuild Drozana's triolic defenses...
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  • stobg2015stobg2015 Member Posts: 800 Arc User
    Honestly, it would make the most sense if all of the uniforms got insta-changed to some form of civilian clothing, since that's what the Starfleet officers on the station (mostly) think you are anyway. Minor dialog tweaks and not much else would need to be updated. Though I could certainly live without enduring the nerve tonic grind ever again... I'd never miss it, and it's really not that important to the storyline.

    Other than that, there are some cool elements of that mission that could be preserved such as sneaking around avoiding security, etc. The Delta recruit time travel tie-in is a particularly nice touch.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    What gets me is that My Gorn, in a KDF uniform can freely wonder around the station, play games on their computer, steal parts and get into a bar fight, alter the time line, pass out in the cargo bay with a bottle of Romulan Ale and a copy of PlayGorn and still be the hero in Starfleets eyes. And I still can't get into Earth Space Dock 200 or so years later!

    In my country this is equal to coming home from the pub and crawling half blind into the bed at 4am without waking my sheila nor tripping over the dog in the dark in the process. Seriously if I did this TRIBBLE in front of Starfleet security and got away with it like I did then, I'd should be a freaking legend!

    Then again I sat through both JJ treks without throwing up or trying to knife myself, so, meh, I'm already a legend. =3
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  • javaman1969javaman1969 Member Posts: 298 Arc User
    edited December 2015
    bunansa wrote: »
    yakodym wrote: »
    Anyone tried that mission with a TOS uniform?

    yep I do all the time just for "fitting in" but the response is always the same from the npcs.

    It's not what you wear, but how you wear it. :smiley:
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  • jade1280jade1280 Member Posts: 868 Arc User
    stobg2015 wrote: »
    Honestly, it would make the most sense if all of the uniforms got insta-changed to some form of civilian clothing, since that's what the Starfleet officers on the station (mostly) think you are anyway. Minor dialog tweaks and not much else would need to be updated. Though I could certainly live without enduring the nerve tonic grind ever again... I'd never miss it, and it's really not that important to the storyline.

    Other than that, there are some cool elements of that mission that could be preserved such as sneaking around avoiding security, etc. The Delta recruit time travel tie-in is a particularly nice touch.


    I like your thoughts on this topic.

    The nerve tonic for the alcholic can easily be changed by allowing the players to slap her a few times it worked in that era when women and others were hysterical why not here.
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