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Has the Gal-X Phaser Lance been buffed at all?

tomoyosakagami1tomoyosakagami1 Member Posts: 146 Arc User
I still remember it being nerfed to the ground a couple years ago and when Delta Rising had dropped, I stopped playing and only just got back in time to take advantage of the give away event the week before New Dawn had dropped. I'm still figuring out what's new since I came back to STO.

Coming back and seeing that glorious dreadnought get a very sexy make over and better boff layout has made me want to buy it even though I'm science. I still lack a T6 ship and I'm not sure I want to buy the Pathfinder, I'm just so used to my T5-U Vesta that it doesn't deserve to get left behind. But I have a tact on her way to lvl 60 and I know tact does very well in the Gal-X.

But back to the Yamato, has the Phaser Lance been buffed at all? Or has it not been messed with since its nerf?

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  • dracounguisdracounguis Member Posts: 5,358 Arc User
    I don't think so. Mine does paltry damage when unbuffed.

    But if you throw every buffing console you can fit on your ship, it will do some decent damage. Had a fleet-mate shoot his Rommy Dread's plasma lance at me and it hurt alot. But then he's got all epic Mk14 consoles on it...
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    Not sure what you call "paltry". Mine hits for around 9-12k....
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  • dracounguisdracounguis Member Posts: 5,358 Arc User
    Not sure what you call "paltry". Mine hits for around 9-12k....
    It's paltry for the 2min cooldown it has. Plus the phaser 'shotgun' when the saucer is detached seems to do more single target damage than the single target mode.
  • szimszim Member Posts: 2,503 Arc User
    Not sure what you call "paltry". Mine hits for around 9-12k....

    The new Quantum Warhead console does 50k damage on bare hull, just for comparison.
  • welcome2earfwelcome2earf Member Posts: 1,748 Arc User
    I always thought the Uber Phaser Lance - the one that punched holes through ships in the show - was always ridiculously weak and still is for a weapon with a 2-min CD. The Nadion Bomb for escorts is a better weapon. Shoot - the 3-pc Delta thingamagig weapon is better...and it has a 1 min CD!!!
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  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,602 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    The Lance when the ship isn't split hits twice. It's seriously powerful, and don't forget it pierces too. Hit the 'Mirror Dread' in MI and killed it from 69% HP (This was with MK14 equipment with the Sunrise set and 1 Spire Phaser console. The shotgun mode only fires once remember and is slightly weaker in DPS. As for the cooldown, could do with a slight reduction, but not so much as that people become reliant on it.
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  • aethon3050aethon3050 Member Posts: 599 Arc User
    I feel like the lance is a waste of time if your captain is not tac, and your build is not centered around it.

    I'm running 4 Mk IV spire phaser consoles, and my engineer never gets much out of it. I typically get a pair of 12-16k hits, assuming the thing doesn't miss entirely, which happens far too often. It's more of a Spinal Phaser Tickler than any sort of 'lance'. It seems to miss about half the time, as well, even when the target is stationary, and I watch the beam go right through it.

    My character is skilled purely into beams at this point, and I literally give up a significant portion of my DPS output in the time it takes to transition from broadside to nose-on to fire, then transition back to broadside. If it can't even make those two turns worthwhile, it's a waste.

    Also, sure, it pierces...on the one in a million occasion when you can line your fat *** up on two targets and get the beam to not miss one (or both) of them.

    When I put a tac captain into this ship, the spike is nice; a cruiser (dread or not) should not be tac-only, though, IMHO.
  • reynoldsxdreynoldsxd Member Posts: 977 Arc User
    THe Phaser Lance? Requires the target to be anchored. Grav well, disable or tractor beam.

    Once that is achieved, you only need a decent base crit chance and you will land a critical hit which will seriously hurt.

    However, beamoverload (especialy with superweapon ingenuity) is the better "lance". its a 30 second cooldown, guranteed crit. Even better on anchiored targets.
    Can also be propagated to bam equipped pets via the Alitas coordinated assault trait.


    What you need t oconsider with the T6 Galaxy X is the ltcom command option that is concentrate firepower.


    Scenario:

    You grab a target via tractor beam, and sit at 3-4 km to it. You shoot it to stick Pattern beta to it, You lance it, you Beam overlaod it, and you have cast CF3 on it and are now bombarding it with close range barrages of neutronics. You cna use the new shield drain torpedo instead, as every salvo of CF3 will trigger the aoe shield heal which will restore your shields with every salvo.

    At point blan krange yo ucan get a salvo evry 2 seconds.

    The Galaxy was never and will neever be the easiest to do dps machine and its lance is kinda meh. But the ship got fun options nonthelwess and easily pulls enough dps to be viable for any activity in the game.


    So no thelance did not get buffed. But the platform it reasides was. And thats what counts.
    Also: ditch the old galaxy set, only keep the t6 consoles. Killer close range combo. Also killer passive on the Andromeda one.
  • hyperionx09hyperionx09 Member Posts: 1,709 Arc User
    Accuracy-wise, it's still very much hit-or-miss unlike console or set-bonus lances, which are almost always 100%. But when it hits, it hits fairly hard.

    It's not a very big deal in the regular meta; but the smaller and more agile ships with higher innate Defense from mobility might just skim the beam and you get nothing but a miss.

    Like another said, a GravWell dropped by a teammate or AI will help it out.

    Aside; there should have been a Guardian-X. Still hoping for one too.
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    reynoldsxd wrote: »
    THe Phaser Lance? Requires the target to be anchored. Grav well, disable or tractor beam.

    Once that is achieved, you only need a decent base crit chance and you will land a critical hit which will seriously hurt.

    However, beamoverload (especialy with superweapon ingenuity) is the better "lance". its a 30 second cooldown, guranteed crit. Even better on anchiored targets.
    Can also be propagated to bam equipped pets via the Alitas coordinated assault trait.


    What you need t oconsider with the T6 Galaxy X is the ltcom command option that is concentrate firepower.


    Scenario:

    You grab a target via tractor beam, and sit at 3-4 km to it. You shoot it to stick Pattern beta to it, You lance it, you Beam overlaod it, and you have cast CF3 on it and are now bombarding it with close range barrages of neutronics. You cna use the new shield drain torpedo instead, as every salvo of CF3 will trigger the aoe shield heal which will restore your shields with every salvo.

    At point blan krange yo ucan get a salvo evry 2 seconds.

    The Galaxy was never and will neever be the easiest to do dps machine and its lance is kinda meh. But the ship got fun options nonthelwess and easily pulls enough dps to be viable for any activity in the game.


    So no thelance did not get buffed. But the platform it reasides was. And thats what counts.
    Also: ditch the old galaxy set, only keep the t6 consoles. Killer close range combo. Also killer passive on the Andromeda one.
    Feds can get a shuttle pet that uses TB, so that can give you your anchor for BO or the lance. but the AI is a bit random and might not use it on what you want.
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  • gradiigradii Member Posts: 2,824 Arc User
    Yamato lance is good. I dunno about the T5 Gal X though.

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  • samt1996samt1996 Member Posts: 2,856 Arc User
    The yellow stones have tractor beams, chroniton torpedos and enhanced warp plasma.

    They shut down engines.
  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,016 Arc User
    gradii wrote: »
    Yamato lance is good. I dunno about the T5 Gal X though.

    The exact same thing​​
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  • gradiigradii Member Posts: 2,824 Arc User
    angrytarg wrote: »
    gradii wrote: »
    Yamato lance is good. I dunno about the T5 Gal X though.

    The exact same thing​​

    Did they upgrade the T5 ships lance when they released the Yamato? I kept hearing how it misses all the time. my lance does not miss.

    "He shall be my finest warrior, this generic man who was forced upon me.
    Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
    he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
    In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
    He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
    He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
    He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
    He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."
  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,016 Arc User
    gradii wrote: »
    Did they upgrade the T5 ships lance when they released the Yamato? I kept hearing how it misses all the time. my lance does not miss.

    Nothing changed, people were just super confused because with the model revamp Cryptic corrected the skewed lance on the ship model. Somehow a lot (and I mean a LOT) of people thought that this would make the lance somehow more precise or better when literally all that was changed was the ship model.

    I have no idea how the hit chance of the lance is, but it's a chance. You can miss a lot or close to never.​​
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    "No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
    "A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
    "That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    Mine usually hits in PvE.
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  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    The single target Phaser Lance usually hits in PVE now. I don't think it got buffed but what helps these days is that for even a half-developed character, there tends to be more accuracy in the game built in that it ever was before. In particular if you have Intel Spec, which for example lavishes accuracy onto the player.
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  • gradiigradii Member Posts: 2,824 Arc User
    The single target Phaser Lance usually hits in PVE now. I don't think it got buffed but what helps these days is that for even a half-developed character, there tends to be more accuracy in the game built in that it ever was before. In particular if you have Intel Spec, which for example lavishes accuracy onto the player.

    My main with her Yamato uses Command.

    "He shall be my finest warrior, this generic man who was forced upon me.
    Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
    he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
    In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
    He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
    He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
    He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
    He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."
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