What Non-Klingon KDF ship should get the Tier 6 treatment next?

mustrumridcully0

What Non-Klingon KDF ship should get the Tier 6 treatment next?
I am intentionally omitting the Nausicaan Siege Destroyer, since rumour has that it will come with the Galaxy-X and the Ha'apax.

Of course, in an ideal world, they all should eventually get a Tier 6 version. In a more realistic vision of the future, most won't make it, I fear. But either way, they would come out slowly and so one has to be the first - and which one should that be?


An idea occured to me that instead of creating actually Tier 6 Retrofits for all these ships, Cryptic could make a single Nausicaan, a single Orion and a single Gorn Tier 6 ship and each simply give the option to choose between all existing skins for those ships. Add maybe a few material choices and at least some minor custom piece variations, and we would at least have something. But maybe that would be an defeatist attitude, assuming that not everything will see a Tier 6 version?

protogoth

Marauder Flight Deck Cruiser

I'm torn between Marauder, Corsair, and Kar'Fi. But I went with the Marauder.

mustrumridcully0

Scourge Destroyer

protogoth wrote: »

I'm torn between Marauder, Corsair, and Kar'Fi. But I went with the Marauder.

It is not an easy decision to make, I think. Many of these ships are beautiful or interesting looking. Except the Marauder. ​​

goodscotch

Phalanx Science Vessel

Gotta go with the Science Vessel. Many threads posted in reference to the KDF getting a true science vessel.

sinn74

I'd say the Varanus, because it's a science vessel, but it would need a complete overhaul, IMO.

dirlettia

Kar'Fi Battlecarrier

As one who loves form over functionality I went for my fave ship - the Kar'fi. I would only hope any update wouldnt ruin its trademark looks.

captz1pp

Other

I picked other, since i think the Letheans should get a ship, maybe one asymmetric like the Breen's are, since Letheans are mind readers, and would have to shift through random thoughts to do that.

desertjets

Phalanx Science Vessel

I voted Phalanx because I think it is the best looking of the 3 Gorn science vessels. I much prefer its relatively compact and sleek looks vs. the bulky Dragus -- however the Dragus may be the most logical given its console. Something paired with the aceton generator could make an interesting 2-pc for drainy builds.

scarling

Other

I want a giant fish! Ravager Dread.

artan42

Other

I like your single Nausicaan, a single Orion and a single Gorn (and Fek'lhr) ship idea, that gives you the option to use the hulls of: the Syphon, Destroyer, Vandal, Scourge, Guramba, Talon, and Ravager; Vishap, Tuatara, Phalanx, Draguas, Zilant, Varanus, and Balaur; Corvette, Dacoit, Corsair, Brigand, Marauder, Slavemaster 1 and 2, and Warbarge (as well as the Fer'Jai, K'Norr, Kar'Fi, and Drek'Hi)​​

sennahcherib

Vandal Destroyer

vandal, because I like the shape of this ship, or the scourge destroyed for the same reason

lianthelia

Kar'Fi Battlecarrier

As much as I love Science...I think I'd want to go with the Kar'fi...played that ship for a long time till it really started showing its age and I love the Fer'jai Frigates! I would love for a Lt Cmdr Eng or for them to at least make the Ens Sci a uni! (Hey it's still got a Sci Cmdr so it technically is Science-y )

But if this was pure Science I'd have to go with the Varanus...I just like that design more than the other Gorn ships.

hyperionx09

Varanus Support Vessel

Varanus. KDF is long overdue for a new Science ship. The Dysons were decent, but it's time for a new and proper Science ship. Unless they're just going to T6 the underwhelming Dyson bundle then grandfather everyone's old Dyson bundles to T6. Then I could live with that.

ataloss

Corsair Flight Deck Cruiser

I wanted to say the Kar'Fi, but I love the Flight Deck Crusier family, I was torn.

r5e4w3q2

Not sure any of them should be. From what I understand they were not designed art-wise to have new versions made. May be better to make new KDF ships built to current standards to fill the holes.

The Kar'Fi in particular would be odd to see an new version of, it is a captured ship, basically a lockbox ship before there were lockboxes. Are there even any Fek'Ihri left to build new ships?​​

sennahcherib

Vandal Destroyer

Are there even any Fek'Ihri left to build new ships?​​

no problem, we have the ferengis. if they can retrieve and modify Undine ships or Voth ships, they can do the same thing for the Kar'fi

markhawkman

Varanus Support Vessel

protogoth wrote: »

I'm torn between Marauder, Corsair, and Kar'Fi. But I went with the Marauder.

It's so hard to choose only one. But the pickle would be my second choice really. third would be the Kar'fi.

markhawkman

Varanus Support Vessel

r5e4w3q2 wrote: »

Not sure any of them should be. From what I understand they were not designed art-wise to have new versions made. May be better to make new KDF ships built to current standards to fill the holes.

The Kar'Fi in particular would be odd to see an new version of, it is a captured ship, basically a lockbox ship before there were lockboxes. Are there even any Fek'Ihri left to build new ships?​​

Yes. In the KDF story the only ones who die are the ones who attack.... we never even found where they came from.

mustrumridcully0

Scourge Destroyer

r5e4w3q2 wrote: »

Not sure any of them should be. From what I understand they were not designed art-wise to have new versions made. May be better to make new KDF ships built to current standards to fill the holes.

I suspect that could be problem, too. But maybe not - if there are multiple areas of the ships where you can select different patterns, there might be enough to also allow some shape changes.
But if not - my idea with just allowing to switch between the available species models might still work - the parts wouldn't need to be compatible with each other. If I remember correctly, the K'Tinga has a set up like that already.
They might in turn be able to be a bit more creative with materials, and maybe some new patterns specific to the ships?

The Kar'Fi in particular would be odd to see an new version of, it is a captured ship, basically a lockbox ship before there were lockboxes. Are there even any Fek'Ihri left to build new ships?

Your comparison with lockbox ship is pretty apt, I think - if the Fek'Ihri arc had happened any later in the game's life, it might have ended up in a lockbox (at best an event ship perhaps?). It would be a bit odd, but the Fek'Ihri might still be around, and maybe Cryptic could throw in a new Fek'Ihri arc (this time for all factions probably) to introduce the new ship...​​

warmaker001b

Marauder Flight Deck Cruiser

I would have supported a revamped Kar'Fi. But considering how nerfed hangar units are these days, that is a fruitless venture.

I'd be down for the Giant Space Hamster, a.k.a. Marauder FDC to get the T6 treatment. Her console alignment at T5U (there is no T5 Fleet Marauder FDC) leans towards a Science-oriented Cruiser. But the T6 treatment could make her quite nice.

jexsamx

Corsair Flight Deck Cruiser

Corsair pls

toiva

Varanus Support Vessel

Most importantly Kar'Fi and Varanus.

For the Orions I wouldn't mind a new ship, not quite a fan of current ships of theirs. And let's hope the Gurumba is nice at Tier 6.

kodachikuno

Other

Tuatara Cruiser or Balaur

svindal777

Kar'Fi, that thing would be a beast at T6. (Maybe with a new BOFF career that benefits carrier pets)

aurigas7

Other

I'd like some ships which are different to the ones we had before. Like a combat ship for Gorn (Tuatara or Balaur) a nimble escort (interceptor) for Orions and maybe a droneboat for Nausicaans.

potasssium

Vandal Destroyer

As much as I like both, I do prefer the Vandal over the Scourge slightly, but would happily scoop up either or both.

rattler2

Varanus Support Vessel

I gotta show some support for a science ship. KDF may not have many, but the ones they do have need sone love.

and @potassium, seriously... what did Khan do to Trixie?

breadandcircuses

Varanus Support Vessel

My personal favorite would be a Nausicaan Siphon Frigate set up as a T6 analogue to the MMSV line, but that aside I'd like to see the Varanus become a good ship rather than just what's available. I favor the Varanus over the Phalanx only because it's so very much in need of improvement. The Phalanx is a joy to fly during the appropriate level range, while the Varanus just feels inferior. So, take the skin, update it a tad, and make a decent ship out of it.

Overall... pretty much "a decent Science Ship" is my answer for both the KDF and Roms. It's a whole Profession that is completely unrepresented at T6 for both factions, and while I'd be even happier if they finally get around to finishing the KDF and Rom Intel line (which does seem to be missing an Intel Science Ship for both factions, btw) it'd be nice just to see a T6 Science Ship for each (one that isn't directly inferior to its Fed counterpart).

sunseahl

Other

We(KDF) have been told again and again that there was a FLEET Garumba ready to go.... and now there's T6 stuff? WTF?

-T6 Garumba and Fleet upgrade

Secondary:

- T6 Marauder​​

markhawkman

Varanus Support Vessel

breadandcircuses wrote: »

My personal favorite would be a Nausicaan Siphon Frigate set up as a T6 analogue to the MMSV line, but that aside I'd like to see the Varanus become a good ship rather than just what's available. I favor the Varanus over the Phalanx only because it's so very much in need of improvement. The Phalanx is a joy to fly during the appropriate level range, while the Varanus just feels inferior. So, take the skin, update it a tad, and make a decent ship out of it.

Overall... pretty much "a decent Science Ship" is my answer for both the KDF and Roms. It's a whole Profession that is completely unrepresented at T6 for both factions, and while I'd be even happier if they finally get around to finishing the KDF and Rom Intel line (which does seem to be missing an Intel Science Ship for both factions, btw) it'd be nice just to see a T6 Science Ship for each (one that isn't directly inferior to its Fed counterpart).

Oh yeah... I would LOVE to fly one of those Siphon ships.

catoblepasbeta

Other

Orion Warbarge! Bring out some of those other NPC-exclusive ships while we are at it!

Though really, any non-Klingon KDF ship would be good now. I'm starting to think that Cryptic has forgotten the Klingon Empire has ships besides the Klingon ones.