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Tales of the War #16

kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
edited August 2015 in Romulan Discussion
Well I have to give Cryptic's writers their 2 points for addressing this issue finally, with in universe fiction no less.
For those that haven't looked or don't look, this week's war roleplay mini-story, does something to begin looking seriously at the restoration of Romulus. I hope they will give that more fleshing out, and some quality time doing so. I know they won't restore Romulus because that would bring the Empire in some fashion or another back to power. But hopefully they will put one of their better writers on giving this some more detail and air time.

What did/do ya all think?
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tacofangs wrote: »
STO isn't canon, and neither are any of the books.

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  • protogothprotogoth Member Posts: 2,369 Arc User
    I think I should have Adranna detained for questioning and psionic brain scans after we learned that she had been influenced by both Undine-Cooper and the Ikonnsu.
  • tolmariustolmarius Member Posts: 400 Arc User
    kodachikuno wrote: »
    Well I have to give Cryptic's writers their 2 points for addressing this issue finally, with in universe fiction no less.
    For those that haven't looked or don't look, this week's war roleplay mini-story, does something to begin looking seriously at the restoration of Romulus. I hope they will give that more fleshing out, and some quality time doing so. I know they won't restore Romulus because that would bring the Empire in some fashion or another back to power. But hopefully they will put one of their better writers on giving this some more detail and air time.

    What did/do ya all think?

    Romulus not being restore has more to do with CBS. That even it canon, and would invalidate the new reboot movies. So....nope.

    Also, considering what I saw from the rumor mill, briging back Romulus has the same effective result.
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  • seriousdaveseriousdave Member Posts: 2,777 Arc User
    Yeah, that won't end well. She's pretty much becoming a Annorax 2.0 and guess who has to clean up after she she's done messing with the timeline....
  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    protogoth wrote: »
    I think I should have Adranna detained for questioning and psionic brain scans after we learned that she had been influenced by both Undine-Cooper and the Ikonnsu.

    That's a very Tal Shiar sort of thing to do. I'm very proud! >:)
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  • catoblepasbetacatoblepasbeta Member Posts: 1,532 Arc User
    edited August 2015
    Doesn't surprise me. The whole 'universe trying to right itself' destiny thing never sits right with me. Particularly when the list of culprits for the destruction of Romulus is pretty small. Of course, using the Krenim timeship to erase Hobus wouldn't likely accomplish anything good- Hakeev could just pick a different system that met Hobus's criteria and blow that up instead, and who knows what sort of effects removing a millions-of years old system might have had on history. But going back in time and shooting Hakeev in the back with a disruptor (and a few of his closest allies as well while one's at it-just to be sure) would put lid on things rather effectively, I think.

    Conceptually, it's not any more far fetched than temporal shenanigans we have seen happen many times before in Trek-even in the STO storyline several times. IMO it's just authorial fiat that's holding it back..and not terribly surprising in that- I can't imagine cryptic suddenly making all of the Republic players Imperial, or throwing out the old storyline to start anew or anything drastic like that.
  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    tolmarius wrote: »
    Romulus not being restore has more to do with CBS. That even it canon, and would invalidate the new reboot movies. So....nope.

    Also, considering what I saw from the rumor mill, briging back Romulus has the same effective result.
    no, it has more to do with the fact they'd have to completely redo everything from LoR and all the romulan missions if they restore Romulus. The idea hit full stop right there... no CBS needed
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    tacofangs wrote: »
    STO isn't canon, and neither are any of the books.
  • tolmariustolmarius Member Posts: 400 Arc User
    kodachikuno wrote: »
    tolmarius wrote: »
    Romulus not being restore has more to do with CBS. That even it canon, and would invalidate the new reboot movies. So....nope.

    Also, considering what I saw from the rumor mill, briging back Romulus has the same effective result.
    no, it has more to do with the fact they'd have to completely redo everything from LoR and all the romulan missions if they restore Romulus. The idea hit full stop right there... no CBS needed

    I'm pretty sure CBS is involved init regardless. I have a suspicion that they are using STO as a place to float the occasional idea for a new trek series.
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  • chipg7chipg7 Member Posts: 1,577 Arc User
    tolmarius wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure CBS is involved init regardless. I have a suspicion that they are using STO as a place to float the occasional idea for a new trek series.

    That's possible, yeah.

    Either way, we know how this is going to go. Something very, very bad is going to be screwed up very, very violently. I doubt we'll even be seeing a Star Empire in the altered timeine that bares even passing resemblance to what we knew - whatever we find, it'll be a stinking mess.
  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    and in all likelihood, a TRIBBLE-poorly written stinking mess.. tho I hope they caught a clue after this FE... than again... cryptic giving a TRIBBLE would be a shocking turn in and of itself
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    tacofangs wrote: »
    STO isn't canon, and neither are any of the books.
  • chipg7chipg7 Member Posts: 1,577 Arc User
    I... don't quite share your hatred for the story arc. It's not my favourite, for sure, but the Iconians and Krenim are both from on-screen Trek. This is about the level of crazy powers they were suggested to have.

    I'll be happy when the war's over, of course. But for now, I'll just play along. They've been interesting missions, and the extra VO from Trek actors has been great.
  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    The whole arc isn't too horrid... just broken circle jerk
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    tacofangs wrote: »
    STO isn't canon, and neither are any of the books.
  • sernonserculionsernonserculion Member Posts: 749 Arc User
    The Iconians are starting to behave like the Borg. All scary voices, then they roll over and politely dies after all. Good thing too, then we can get back to a Romulan Imperium, and forget any of this ever happened. Right? Right? :D
  • vorwodavorwoda Member Posts: 698 Arc User
    tolmarius wrote: »
    Romulus not being restore has more to do with CBS. That even it canon, and would invalidate the new reboot movies. So....nope.
    /quote]

    I don't agree that it would necessarily invalidate the new movies. Mind you, I don't like the new movies, but nothing about restoring Romulus necessarily prevents the timeline involved.

    The whole theory of alternate timelines is that every choice you make leads to another parallel universe where you made another possible choice. Every possibility is the reality somewhere. If I roll a twenty-sided die, there are now twenty parallel universes, and in each one a different number came up. There's another universe where the die rolled off the table, yet another where the die rolled off the table and a dog swallowed it, etc. So even if history is altered so Romulus doesn't get destroyed in this timeline, there will always still be timelines out there where it did, and Nero and Spock went back and created the JJ-verse. And if Romulus doesn't get restored in this timeline, it does in another. It HAS to, because every possibility does happen in one or another of the infinite number of parallel universes.

    So in essence, all timeline alteration does is shift one's own existence and point of view from one universe to another. Because they ALL already exist.

    In one, Kirk didn't let Edith Keeler die, but instead brought her back to the twenty-third century. Where she left him. And married Nero. And became Hakeev's mom. Ridiculous? Heck, yes. Impossible? Given an infinite number of parallel time lines, not at all. Not even improbable. In fact, it's a certainty. Somewhere. I'm just glad I don't live in THAT universe.

    At least, I HOPE I don't! :D
  • catoblepasbetacatoblepasbeta Member Posts: 1,532 Arc User
    sernonserculion wrote: »
    The Iconians are starting to behave like the Borg. All scary voices, then they roll over and politely dies after all. Good thing too, then we can get back to a Romulan Imperium, and forget any of this ever happened. Right? Right? :D

    Yeah, The Undine and vaadwaaur both seemed like more threatening enemies.
  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    catoblepasbeta wrote: »
    Yeah, The Undine and vaadwaaur both seemed like more threatening enemies.

    Well they're ships are certainly tougher... The Baltim Raider is the most dangerous opponent the Iconians have imo with that shield bypassing ram. 2nd would be the solar gate, the ships themselves aint much
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    tacofangs wrote: »
    STO isn't canon, and neither are any of the books.
  • protogothprotogoth Member Posts: 2,369 Arc User
    kodachikuno wrote: »
    catoblepasbeta wrote: »
    Yeah, The Undine and vaadwaaur both seemed like more threatening enemies.

    Well they're ships are certainly tougher... The Baltim Raider is the most dangerous opponent the Iconians have imo with that shield bypassing ram. 2nd would be the solar gate, the ships themselves aint much

    Ugh, the solar gates. I hate them passionately.
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