Constitution Class Fun

jaymclaughlin

Because of the lag, I've mothballed all my end game ships and been flying around in my Connie.

It's actually a ridiculous amount of fun!

It also gave me a chance to play with Demo Record

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nzu6IUlPhco

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzubtgndv0M


CLR—Infected Space[4:26]— Dmg(DPS) — McLaughlin 7,084,107(27,039)

Ship build... http://www.stoacademy.com/tools/skillplanner/?build=dpsconnie_6927

spaceeagle20

"Kirk" McLaughlin is too OP, plz nerf !!! xD

shpoks

10characters.

timelord79

I recently leveled my entire delta recruit in a T1 Constitution. You really need to stay ahead of teh gear curve to make it work, but it really IS fun. love your camera work, btwe

jaymclaughlin

timelord79 wrote: »

I recently leveled my entire delta recruit in a T1 Constitution. You really need to stay ahead of teh gear curve to make it work, but it really IS fun. love your camera work, btwe

Hehe thanks.

You also have to learn a completely different way of flying, because with only a 13K hull, you pretty much get one shotted by everything in advanced queues!

Sano

Go jay go 30k next incomming

Just need one lag-free day

zobovor

I heard a small 'pop' sound during the first vid.
Was it Geko's head exploding by any chance ?

jim625

Awesome videos I so want to try this some time once I've finished doing some grinding

mustrumridcully0

zobovor wrote: »

I heard a small 'pop' sound during the first vid.
Was it Geko's head exploding by any chance ?

Or it was CBS pulling the plug because they clearly said "No Endgame Connie".

lizwei

mustrumridcully0 wrote: »

zobovor wrote: »

I heard a small 'pop' sound during the first vid.
Was it Geko's head exploding by any chance ?

Or it was CBS pulling the plug because they clearly said "No Endgame Connie".

Let me get this straight.
CBS are okay with the Federation flying Dominion ships, assimilated ships, Tholian ships, ships from the 29th century, Terran Empire ships proudly displaying their I.S.S. Prefix.... but an upgraded Constitution is somehow too far?

artan42

lizwei wrote: »

mustrumridcully0 wrote: »

zobovor wrote: »

I heard a small 'pop' sound during the first vid.
Was it Geko's head exploding by any chance ?

Or it was CBS pulling the plug because they clearly said "No Endgame Connie".

Let me get this straight.
CBS are okay with the Federation flying Dominion ships, assimilated ships, Tholian ships, ships from the 29th century, Terran Empire ships proudly displaying their I.S.S. Prefix.... but an upgraded Constitution is somehow too far?

Yes. They are against it because of its status as Kirks ship not because it's too old, not because it would be silly to fly, not for any other reason people give. Simply because they don't want Kirk's ships (TOS or refit) available as an endgame ship, because you could guarantee everybody and their mum would be flying it, thus reducing its uniqueness. ​​

mustrumridcully0

lizwei wrote: »

mustrumridcully0 wrote: »

zobovor wrote: »

I heard a small 'pop' sound during the first vid.
Was it Geko's head exploding by any chance ?

Or it was CBS pulling the plug because they clearly said "No Endgame Connie".

Let me get this straight.
CBS are okay with the Federation flying Dominion ships, assimilated ships, Tholian ships, ships from the 29th century, Terran Empire ships proudly displaying their I.S.S. Prefix.... but an upgraded Constitution is somehow too far?

Yes. They know not everyone can get lockbox ships. (And if everyone would get them, they'd get stinking filthy rich.)

I am not sure if there is more than that at work. Brand and marketing are a thing I am not an expert in. I tend to think that it's a bit overrated, but it might be that it's also overrated in the audiences, so basically it's not overrated after all.
Most of the ships you see in STO - they are not major brand identifiers. Only a subset of Trek fans even know what an Undine ship looks like. (Or that Undine = Species 8472)
But anyone even vaguely familiar with Trek will know the original Enterprise. And so they want to ensure it's a rarity, something valuable and unique. And without it not being endgame material, it will remain unique.

jaymclaughlin

Had a couple of people message me to see a normal video, so here's a pug run.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCpHNvvgFz4&feature=youtu.be

I do have to say I usually die at least once in pugs... 13K hull makes you beyond squishy! But this pug was particularly generous with heals.

lizwei

mustrumridcully0 wrote: »

lizwei wrote: »

mustrumridcully0 wrote: »

zobovor wrote: »

I heard a small 'pop' sound during the first vid.
Was it Geko's head exploding by any chance ?

Or it was CBS pulling the plug because they clearly said "No Endgame Connie".

Let me get this straight.
CBS are okay with the Federation flying Dominion ships, assimilated ships, Tholian ships, ships from the 29th century, Terran Empire ships proudly displaying their I.S.S. Prefix.... but an upgraded Constitution is somehow too far?

Yes. They know not everyone can get lockbox ships. (And if everyone would get them, they'd get stinking filthy rich.)

I am not sure if there is more than that at work. Brand and marketing are a thing I am not an expert in. I tend to think that it's a bit overrated, but it might be that it's also overrated in the audiences, so basically it's not overrated after all.
Most of the ships you see in STO - they are not major brand identifiers. Only a subset of Trek fans even know what an Undine ship looks like. (Or that Undine = Species 8472)
But anyone even vaguely familiar with Trek will know the original Enterprise. And so they want to ensure it's a rarity, something valuable and unique. And without it not being endgame material, it will remain unique.

What, and the D isn't well known or something?
I think this idea that everybody would be flying Constitutions is grossly exagerrated. You'd get some, yes, but no more than are flying Galaxies.

What is this idea that the Constitution should be "unique" anyway? It never was in TOS. Hell in one episode you see 5 of them.
Plus, for a so-called iconic ship they really are treating her badly - the movie era Constitution is very sub-standard, especially when they've upgraded the models of virtually every other canon class.

theanothername

lizwei wrote: »

mustrumridcully0 wrote: »

lizwei wrote: »

mustrumridcully0 wrote: »

zobovor wrote: »

I heard a small 'pop' sound during the first vid.
Was it Geko's head exploding by any chance ?

Or it was CBS pulling the plug because they clearly said "No Endgame Connie".

Let me get this straight.
CBS are okay with the Federation flying Dominion ships, assimilated ships, Tholian ships, ships from the 29th century, Terran Empire ships proudly displaying their I.S.S. Prefix.... but an upgraded Constitution is somehow too far?

Yes. They know not everyone can get lockbox ships. (And if everyone would get them, they'd get stinking filthy rich.)

I am not sure if there is more than that at work. Brand and marketing are a thing I am not an expert in. I tend to think that it's a bit overrated, but it might be that it's also overrated in the audiences, so basically it's not overrated after all.
Most of the ships you see in STO - they are not major brand identifiers. Only a subset of Trek fans even know what an Undine ship looks like. (Or that Undine = Species 8472)
But anyone even vaguely familiar with Trek will know the original Enterprise. And so they want to ensure it's a rarity, something valuable and unique. And without it not being endgame material, it will remain unique.

What, and the D isn't well known or something?
I think this idea that everybody would be flying Constitutions is grossly exagerrated. You'd get some, yes, but no more than are flying Galaxies.

What is this idea that the Constitution should be "unique" anyway? It never was in TOS. Hell in one episode you see 5 of them.
Plus, for a so-called iconic ship they really are treating her badly - the movie era Constitution is very sub-standard, especially when they've upgraded the models of virtually every other canon class.

1. And 4 of them got destroyed by the supercomputer test-run.

2. Why the complaints? This very thread just shows the ship is end-game ready

lizwei

theanothername wrote: »

1. And 4 of them got destroyed by the supercomputer test-run.

*None of them.
The crew of one of them were all killed, presumably because it's life support systems were contracted out to Microsoft.
Besides I'm not sure arguing that Constitutions not named Enterprise were often cannon fodder does any favours to the unique argument.

2. Why the complaints? This very thread just shows the ship is end-game ready

Facetiousness aside, I'm more concerned about the movie era (aka best) Constitution. It needs some serious love.

seaofsorrows

Pretty cool videos.. I enjoyed the camera work and the music. Very creative.

farmallm

I used to do the cluster patrols with mine when they had them. I was mostly using the Connie Refit. You really had to focus on what you was doing and time things out.

deaftravis05

yes, I run with MC and yes he dies quite a bit in the connie... he also does a stupid amount of damage if someone keeps the fire off him and heals him. It's quite sad that he does better than the pugs we run with

jaymclaughlin

I'm really loving the new 'Invincible' trait from the Zahl cruiser!

rekurzion

How is the Connie unique when EVERYONE (Federation that is) gets one for free? At the beginning of the game no less.

jaymclaughlin

farmallm wrote: »

I used to do the cluster patrols with mine when they had them. I was mostly using the Connie Refit. You really had to focus on what you was doing and time things out.

I have the A as well. Gonna do some stuff with that at some point too

jaymclaughlin

rekurzion wrote: »

How is the Connie unique when EVERYONE (Federation that is) gets one for free? At the beginning of the game no less.

It's a C Store ship?

farmallm

rekurzion wrote: »

How is the Connie unique when EVERYONE (Federation that is) gets one for free? At the beginning of the game no less.

One of the most epic ships in Star Trek, but yet we can't get a T5/T6 version. To play around with.

psiameese

::thumbs-up:: to the OP. Well done.

rekurzion

jaymclaughlin wrote: »

rekurzion wrote: »

How is the Connie unique when EVERYONE (Federation that is) gets one for free? At the beginning of the game no less.

It's a C Store ship?

Ah. Quick trigger finger. I wasn't thinking about the C-Store ship but the Cruiser you get - which I believe is a Constitution class(?) - for leveling up. Regardless, much of the reasoning I've read doesn't make a lot of sense.

psiameese

rekurzion wrote: »

jaymclaughlin wrote: »

rekurzion wrote: »

How is the Connie unique when EVERYONE (Federation that is) gets one for free? At the beginning of the game no less.

It's a C Store ship?

Ah. Quick trigger finger. I wasn't thinking about the C-Store ship but the Cruiser you get - which I believe is a Constitution class(?) - for leveling up. Regardless, much of the reasoning I've read doesn't make a lot of sense.

That would be the Miranda-class. The contemporary to our T2 (movie style) Constitution.

gofasternow

farmallm wrote: »

rekurzion wrote: »

How is the Connie unique when EVERYONE (Federation that is) gets one for free? At the beginning of the game no less.

One of the most epic ships in Star Trek, but yet we can't get a T5/T6 version. To play around with.

Now I wanna pull that out and toss in some of my lying around gear and go shoot some Iconians somewhere. Because dammit, I wanna!

flash525

artan42 wrote: »

Yes. They are against it because of its status as Kirks ship not because it's too old, not because it would be silly to fly, not for any other reason people give. Simply because they don't want Kirk's ships (TOS or refit) available as an endgame ship, because you could guarantee everybody and their mum would be flying it, thus reducing its uniqueness.

I suppose by that logic, they don't want to give us a T5/T6 Miranda Class because it was Khan's ship? Funny how we saw loads of them in the Dominion War. What about a T5/T6 Oberth Class, they don't belong to anybody.

artan42

flash525 wrote: »

artan42 wrote: »

Yes. They are against it because of its status as Kirks ship not because it's too old, not because it would be silly to fly, not for any other reason people give. Simply because they don't want Kirk's ships (TOS or refit) available as an endgame ship, because you could guarantee everybody and their mum would be flying it, thus reducing its uniqueness.

I suppose by that logic, they don't want to give us a T5/T6 Miranda Class because it was Khan's ship? Funny how we saw loads of them in the Dominion War. What about a T5/T6 Oberth Class, they don't belong to anybody.

Nope. Kirk had the Conni for 3-5 series and all but 1 of the TOS films. Khan had the Miranda for part of 1 film. The only ship that comes near the Conni in the iconic status is the Galaxy, even then, more people (especially non fans) are going to know Kirk and the Conni. ​​

flash525

artan42 wrote: »

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You need a Sarcasm Detector.