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(Video) Spend Over 2,5 mil Dilithuim All I got was 9 stupid epic's....

delftnldelftnl Member Posts: 113 Arc User
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI30nm_Zr2U&feature=youtu.be

Enjoy Watching! Just to show u how long it can take before u get something to epic in this "50% off weekend".
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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User
    You used the exact same amount you would have used if you waited for the event to expire.

    You use half as many kits but get half the chance to upgrade. This event will get people to dump a ton of Dilithum for nothing. They almost got me on it, I did one item and realized that this event gives you exactly nothing and stopped.
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  • scarlingscarling Member Posts: 708 Arc User
    not using experimental so..
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  • farmallmfarmallm Member Posts: 4,630 Arc User
    I see you had Dil in your bank to burn. ;)
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  • kittyflofykittyflofy Member Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    I read the title of the post and i didnt need to even see the video. Lol, congrats, you are another "rich" fooled by cryptic. Do you realize that you dont even need mk XIV to vaporize everything, right?. So, im not really sorry for you.
  • zobovorzobovor Member Posts: 198 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    You used the exact same amount you would have used if you waited for the event to expire.

    You use half as many kits but get half the chance to upgrade. This event will get people to dump a ton of Dilithum for nothing. They almost got me on it, I did one item and realized that this event gives you exactly nothing and stopped.

    While I too am weary of this event for the reasons above, I'll put thes quotes here from Reddit :
    RnRaintnoisepolutionPalma wrote:
    Doesn't this effectively mean that rarity chance upgrade is cut in half?

    [–]LaughingTrendyPWE wrote:
    Just going to quickly quote myself from the forums on this one:
    "The team actually anticipated this and thus math'ed to preserve the ratio, so the chance won't change. Don't worry. :) Boritcus is awesome like that. "

    Make of that what you will ... and I'll do the same ... as my faith in Cryptic math is not exactly overflowing at the moment .


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    link: https://www.reddit.com/r/sto/comments/3f1hxv/star_trek_online_upgrade_weekend_event/ctkio9c
  • shadowwraith77shadowwraith77 Member Posts: 6,395 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    You used the exact same amount you would have used if you waited for the event to expire.

    You use half as many kits but get half the chance to upgrade. This event will get people to dump a ton of Dilithum for nothing. They almost got me on it, I did one item and realized that this event gives you exactly nothing and stopped.

    This ^

    We were discussing this last night and this was the exact prediction we agreed would happen. This weekend is great for going up to Mk 14 but makes no difference for a quality upgrade.

    Instead for weapons buy the one you want at epic, say Mk VI, VII or VIII, there's usually lots of them, then use this weekend to upgrade them to XIV.

    Exactly, people must have reading problems, it didn't say upgrade rarity weekend, it says upgrade mark xp weekend!!!

    Or, maybe people weren't paying attention, to the whole double tech points part!
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  • grayfoxjamesgrayfoxjames Member Posts: 1,516 Arc User
    This Sums it Up

    Just kidding I upgraded like 5 things to Epic and it didn't cost me nearly as much Dil as that...
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  • legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan Member Posts: 37,284 Arc User
    i spent somewhere around 120k dil spread across 30-some characters and got 1 item to epic on the mark 12 -> 13 upgrade; at 1% chance, it shocked the hell out of me

    wasn't even trying for a rarity upgrade either; i just wanted to get rid of the bound upgrades and accelerators cryptic gave out when they introduced the system on as many characters as possible​​
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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    For some, it's an upgrade event, for another it's a Dilithium sink event that might drive the Zen prices down. :p
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  • plaztikman64plaztikman64 Member Posts: 725 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    Why would you use this event with the goal to increase your items rarity primary in the first place, this is contradictive and counterproductive at the highes level. (faster upgrading -> less chances to upgrade the rarity at lower ranks)
  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    I point this out:
    dukedom01 wrote: »
    So we get double the tech points but half the quality upgrade chance because the system doesn't compensate for that?
    The team actually anticipated this and thus math'ed to preserve the ratio, so the chance won't change. Don't worry. :)
    Boritcus is awesome like that.
    That means you have the exact same chance to get an upgrade as before. You just do it for half the price.

    And yes, that means without the event it would simply have cost you 5 Million Dilithium to get this result.
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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    You used the exact same amount you would have used if you waited for the event to expire.

    You use half as many kits but get half the chance to upgrade.

    Wait, wut?! Half the chance to Upgrade?!? What is that all about??
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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    delftnl wrote: »
    Hahaha >< Guys... did u even pay attention Rarity Upgrade IS INCLUDED this weekend!! And even if not: upgrading from VII to MK XIV Wasn't a option. It was all rep gear and lock box weopons I upgraded starting adleast ad MK XII... U guy's didn't even take a look and starting to scream here. Typical stupid behavior. Acting U know it all... LOL And I say again I didn't use superior upgrades because the price's for them going out of the roof this weekend. And its harder to grind ec's than dilithium for me adleast because I needed MANY MANY Tech Upgrades. And I used superior AND improved in this video. And as you can see on my inventory and bank slots.... got many many epic's over time. I love em! So what U care?

    I stocked up on Superior Upgrade *prior* to the weekend. :)

    Also, the +1.5x Catalysts are your friend (to be applied at the end of each round). Which I *also* bought prior to the weekend.
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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    You used the exact same amount you would have used if you waited for the event to expire.

    You use half as many kits but get half the chance to upgrade.

    Wait, wut?! Half the chance to Upgrade?!? What is that all about??

    Let's throw in some arbitrary figures here.

    If it takes 10 tech upgrades to reach the upgrade threshold and each one gives a 0.25% rarity increase then by the threshold (the bit where you click UPGRADE) you will have gained 2.5% chance to upgrade rarity (although it only shows whole numbers).

    Now, this weekend you only need 5 tech upgrades to reach the threshold, however unless the rarity chance has been increased from 0.25% per tech upgrade then by the time you reach the upgrade threshold you will have only gained 1.25% chance to upgrade rarity because you used half as many tech upgrades. So going from VI to MKXIV you will use half as many tech upgrades but have half as much chance to increase rarity.

    According to some quotes above this was supposed to be addressed, however as it's never cut and dried and I suspect relies on the RNG we can't be sure, and looking at the video above a quick calculation shows the upgrades are giving about 0.11% per upgrade which is close to half of what we would expect.


    Hahaha! Boy, did I fall for that then! :P OMG!
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  • spaceeagle20spaceeagle20 Member Posts: 971 Arc User
    kittyflofy wrote: »
    I read the title of the post and i didnt need to even see the video. Lol, congrats, you are another "rich" fooled by cryptic. Do you realize that you dont even need mk XIV to vaporize everything, right?. So, im not really sorry for you.
    You are right … and, with all of this lag never going away, it's even pointless to min - max and keep your ship at its best shape ever.
    Why should I spend Dilithium to upgrade my weapons to epic level if I can't enjoy them with this lag ? 'Tis the question, Cryptic .
    I wonder how much this lag is affecting their incomes…

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  • kittyflofykittyflofy Member Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    valoreah wrote: »
    Whomever dreamed up the upgrade system for this game should never be allowed to even think about designing another system in a video game. Ever.

    Worst implementation of a crafting system ever in the history of gaming IMO.

    ​​

    Well, cryptic is famous for making stupid and dumb mechanics and useless and pointless revamps. They do a few things right (probably they just get lucky loool), but they do a lot of things wrong. And at this point i think everybody have clear that STO is not precisely the "best" mmorpg lol. Cryptic is not really smart when it comes to hire skilled people to do the job. Same happened with CO. The same way they cant even figure out to make a decent pvp system.
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  • lingeringsoul888lingeringsoul888 Member Posts: 509 Arc User
    valoreah wrote: »
    Whomever dreamed up the upgrade system for this game should never be allowed to even think about designing another system in a video game. Ever.

    Worst implementation of a crafting system ever in the history of gaming IMO.

    ​​

    I'd say the upgrade system is working as intended. Epic rarity is suppose to be just that.....epically rare. It's not exactly rare if every tom TRIBBLE and harry throw in 4 upgrade kits to get an epic. We'd all be sporting Gold Crit D x4 if this were the case.
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  • kittyflofykittyflofy Member Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    valoreah wrote: »
    Whomever dreamed up the upgrade system for this game should never be allowed to even think about designing another system in a video game. Ever.

    Worst implementation of a crafting system ever in the history of gaming IMO.

    ​​

    I'd say the upgrade system is working as intended. Epic rarity is suppose to be just that.....epically rare. It's not exactly rare if every tom TRIBBLE and harry throw in 4 upgrade kits to get an epic. We'd all be sporting Gold Crit D x4 if this were the case.

    The upgrade system is still a lousy system, only designed to drain your resources. Nothing compared with other upgrade systems that a lot of us used in other mmorpgs. Of course, it is working as intended.

    And by the way, i hope people realize that A LOT of items are still bugged to the upgrade system... i only hope you dont have the bad luck to find one of those lol.
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