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dark4blooddark4blood Member Posts: 1,192 Arc User
The Dominion come out of nowhere to save the day. This is how they introduce the Dominion as the real tide that changes the War with the Iconians. With brutal tactics, supreme aggressive style and the coveted Dominion Battlecruiser as one of the main T6 Ships. That is the only way I can see this story being anything but TRIBBLE, well and also allowing the Borg to capture an Iconian, repositioning them as the threat to be feared.

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  • gradiigradii Member Posts: 2,824 Arc User
    The weapon is most likely to fail, one way or another. Either we use it, break every moral rule we've set for ourselves, and never exist to boot, or we don't use it.

    I support anything which doesn't involve this horrible idea of a weapon, but I don't trust the writers to deliver.

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    He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
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  • makocallowaymakocalloway Member Posts: 455 Arc User
    gradii wrote: »
    The weapon is most likely to fail, one way or another. Either we use it, break every moral rule we've set for ourselves, and never exist to boot, or we don't use it.

    I support anything which doesn't involve this horrible idea of a weapon, but I don't trust the writers to deliver.

    Well said. IC My character started having doubts when we fought the voth, and resigned over the whole prime directive double standard with the Vaadwaur /kobali issue. If they use that time ship he'd probably go over the edge.
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  • bernatkbernatk Member Posts: 1,089 Bug Hunter
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  • duncanidaho11duncanidaho11 Member Posts: 7,983 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    dark4blood wrote: »
    The Dominion come out of nowhere to save the day.
    Yah, because if the Dominion is known for anything its being self-less altruists who will leap clean across the galaxy to help those less fortunate than themselves. :P
    gradii wrote: »
    I support anything which doesn't involve this horrible idea of a weapon, but I don't trust the writers to deliver.

    Keep in mind that the writers have brought us to the point where the doomsday weapon is quite obviously a bad idea that we should find some other alternative for. What we would call that outside of gaming is "effective writing." Here [where instant gratification is the norm] it may be something else, but normally its a good sign.
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  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    dark4blood wrote: »
    The Dominion come out of nowhere to save the day. This is how they introduce the Dominion as the real tide that changes the War with the Iconians. With brutal tactics, supreme aggressive style and the coveted Dominion Battlecruiser as one of the main T6 Ships. That is the only way I can see this story being anything but TRIBBLE, well and also allowing the Borg to capture an Iconian, repositioning them as the threat to be feared.

    You know... In a way, I can see that happening. This Krenim weapon we've pinned so much help on can very much fail. Maybe we accidentally "delete" the Kobali and Talaxians? Not too much of a loss if that's the only thing the weapon does before it deletes itself.

    Seriously, it can happen.
    The weapon fails, the Dominion enters the Iconian War. Because the clues in Sela's Iconian Rep messages make it so blatantly obvious who she's dealing with and the Heralds suddenly appearing at that end of space.
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  • cirran1cirran1 Member Posts: 230 Arc User
    dark4blood wrote: »
    The Dominion come out of nowhere to save the day. This is how they introduce the Dominion as the real tide that changes the War with the Iconians. With brutal tactics, supreme aggressive style and the coveted Dominion Battlecruiser as one of the main T6 Ships. That is the only way I can see this story being anything but TRIBBLE, well and also allowing the Borg to capture an Iconian, repositioning them as the threat to be feared.

    You know... In a way, I can see that happening. This Krenim weapon we've pinned so much help on can very much fail. Maybe we accidentally "delete" the Kobali and Talaxians? Not too much of a loss if that's the only thing the weapon does before it deletes itself.

    Seriously, it can happen.
    The weapon fails, the Dominion enters the Iconian War. Because the clues in Sela's Iconian Rep messages make it so blatantly obvious who she's dealing with and the Heralds suddenly appearing at that end of space.

    Wait a second are you saying there is hope of getting rid of the undead and the kender at the same time???? I say that is more than enough reason to use the weapon!


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  • goodscotchgoodscotch Member Posts: 1,680 Arc User
    Hate to say this as a representative of the Klingon Empire, but in this case, there has to be a peaceful resolution if the Federation's Prime Directive is to be adhered to. Perhaps the Krenim weapon could be modified to bypass any temporal shielding the Iconians can come up with and, the Iconians, realizing this and the weapon's existence, come to the bargaining table and find a place for themselves to co-exist in the universe. Barring this possibility, the Alliance simply uses the weapon and succeeds, breaking the Federation's Prime Directive.

    Or maybe the Sword of Kahless, which was lost when the Clone Emperor was slain, was really a mega-bomb that the Klingons will detonate when they detect that all the Iconian leaders are in close proximity to it. It was designed to obliterate the DNA that was harvested when T'ket's arm was chopped off, so it's super-lethal to Iconian DNA. All Iconian leaders wiped out in one explosion!

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  • coupaholiccoupaholic Member Posts: 2,188 Arc User
    dark4blood wrote: »
    The Dominion come out of nowhere to save the day.
    Yah, because if the Dominion is known for anything its being self-less altruists who will leap clean across the galaxy to help those less fortunate than themselves. :P

    I can see it happening you know. After our contact with The Dominion things were left in generally good terms, and I'd hope they would have kept tabs on everything going on since then. The Iconians are just as much a threat to the Gamma Quadrant as anywhere else, and as we know from Sphere of Influence the Iconians have been keeping an eye on The Dominion, and saw them as threat enough to hold back on tangling with them.​​
  • sunfranckssunfrancks Member Posts: 3,925 Arc User
    bernatk wrote: »
    We're all dead. Victory is life.

    I for one welcome our new shape changing overlords!

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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    I'd say the Dominion could certainly provide us with a decent breather, and would them put back on the map in terms of story. Chances for a Dominion/Gamma Quadrant Expansion rising!

    If it were to be done. But I doubt there will be an expansion this year.​​
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  • woodwhitywoodwhity Member Posts: 2,636 Arc User
    Its not like the data-recorder from sela isnt a bit Hint for that.​​
  • mreeves7amreeves7a Member Posts: 499 Arc User
    The weapon fails, or worse, puts the Alliance on a worse footing than they already were...and at the last moment we're saved by another group of time-travel incapable beings and a familiar face: The Sisko returns as an agent of The Other and with his Prophet abilities removes the Iconians from our timeline and rejoins them with their brethren in the timeless Celestial Temple.

    And since The One is then complete again, the Wormhole stabilizes and remains open permanently, leading us to seek relations with the Dominion again.

    Or so we can hope!
  • crusader3025crusader3025 Member Posts: 29 Arc User
    Oh, please, it shouldn't be a surprise at this point that The Dominion will come in to save the day.

    In The 2400 series of DS9 missions, the friggen "Wormhole Aliens" even TELL YOU the fleet that came through from the past NEEDS TO EXIST, but as cryptic (lol) as ever, don't tell you WHY it needs to exist.

    Really, there's two kinds of people in this world:
    Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.
  • willamsheridanwillamsheridan Member Posts: 1,189 Arc User
    Most of that fleet has already been destroyed in the Battle for DS9. And the only reason the fleet needs to exist , at least in my opinion, is because the Prophets can transport things through time but not erase them from the timeline or just "delete" them because that would mean killing them. The prophets are no murderers so they had to release the fleet eventually.
  • sirmaydaysirmayday Member Posts: 535 Arc User
    bernatk wrote: »
    We're all dead. Victory is life.

    I am Fleet Admiral SirMayday; I am very much alive and intend to stay that way. ;)
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