With the updated (fed) cloak console, it can now be outfitted on any battle cruiser, yay. So all those fancy bc’s out there can cloak.
IF you’re a fed, but if you’re a kdf or allied rom with a fancy lockbox or lobi ship, you’re out of luck. Sorry guys, with these ships, only the pure fed can cloak, not the cultures whom developed the cloak and whose battle tactics have relied on the cloak for centuries can figure out how to cloak these new ships.
What? Isn’t that kinda backwards?
SO……what I’d propose for a simple solution is to drop that console in a reward pack. Most other faction specific fancy consoles have been put into reward packs before, such as plas leech, theta radiation, sabotage probes, etc. so, could we get a cloaking console in a reward pack please?
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And a Cloak Console cross faction would be redundant as All Romulan ships have inate Battle Cloak, and most Klingon ships have at least an inate Standard Cloak.
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Rattler, I think their point about making the console available to KDF and Rom is so they could equip them on cross-faction ships, so it wouldn't be redundant. Just a bad idea.
Sorry, OP, but it would be a bad idea to offer up cloaking for an already Over Powered ship, and not only that, but to only offer it to 2 factions.
Intel Ships do not count since their cloaks is baked in.
But like DS9 showed, technology from different species doesn't mix. On DS9, they could not use Fed stuff to replace Cardassian stuff that broke down.
Same with these lockbox ships. They are technologically so different, that the Klingon and Romulan cloaking device simply will not work on, say, the Ferengi or Jem'Hadar ships. Not to mention you need space to install the buggers.
As for in-universe: the lockbox/event ships are powerful enough. Adding a cloak would not exactly help bridge the power difference between a paying/grinding customer and a rather casual one.
And adding cloaks to KDF and Romulan while leaving the Feds out is just plain stupid. Sorry to word it like that, but thats the truth of the matter.
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Feds already got their way with cloaks on the Galaxy-X, Defiant, Avenger variants, and the Intel line. They don't need any more than they've already been given.
While I agree with your sentiment, that isn't what the OP was asking for.
I fully support cloaking for feds, so long as it remains Normal cloak only.
Having a regular cloak which requires a console already ensures it's almost always not worth having anyway.
Romulans ALREADY have a massive advantage with their universal battle cloaks, and giving feds a few more lame console non combat cloaks isn't going to change that.
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Maybe it was my wording then (damn these Rihan-to-Federation Basic translators
Basically, I was getting at keeping cloaks where they are. As rahmkota19 said, I wouldn't expect the Romulans and Klingons to try to slap their cloak on alien ships, except where there'd be a specific need for it. The lockbox ships that do need a cloak, like the Tal Shiar Adapted warbirds, come with one 'cause that's part of their build in the game. An Undine Bioship cloaking, though, would be a little strange - even if under a Klingon captain or Romulan commander.
I'd be fun on the orion flight deck cruisers.
The Vo'Quv not having a cloak makes sense lore wise. That thing is massive, and the power requirements make it rather... uneconomical to equip her with one. Before anyone mentions the Bortasqu as a counter argument... because of her size her cloak isn't as effective as it would be on say a Negh'var. Makes her easier to detect while cloaked.
And as far as I know there is nothing in canon or anywhere that I know of about Orion ships having cloak tech. Asking for a cloak on non Klingon ships would be like asking for an allied faction ship owned by a Romulan to use a Singularity Core instead of a Warp Core. Tech by association when they're not made by the same manufacturer makes no sense. And again, species specific tech doesn't always play nice with other species tech. A Klingon designed Cloak may not be compatable with Orion power systems or something else, making it pointless to bother equipping them with a cloak.
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I'll be honest as my characters mostly KDF and then thew few feds I have this is what I believe should happen. They should first get rid of that standard cloak its design wasn't that great to begin with. What they need to do is make like maybe 3 kinds of cloaks something like battle, phase, metaphasic just some examples. Then they could have another cash grab but satisfy us players/fans who are into the cloaking ships where they all have some purpose. The game is beyond the fed or kdf aspect now because no matter where you put yourself its really now down to if your a dps spreadsheet or a star trek fan.
My science vessels use MES quite efficiently when hunting cloaked vessels in kerrat, but a cloak would still be more beneficial.
It doesnt matter the size. If a ship can use a cloak, that ship will have the same base probabilities to be detected that any other ship. Size has nothing to do with it.
Orions are klingon enlisted. So its common sense to assume that their ships will have klingon cloaking device mounted on their ships. Actually it will be the most logical thing to think.
The no use of Cloaking in starfleet ships has nothing to do with that. Its about prime directives.
No clue where you're getting this information from.
No it's not. It's about the Treaty of Algeron.
President Okeg unfortunately killed off the Treaty, when the Feds tried (and failed) another phase cloaking experiment in the 2390s. Said that the Treaty somehow died with Romulus.
It's in The Path to 2409.
So that said, no cloaks for Fed ships comes down to it not really being in their playbook. That, and the fact that everytime they try it, their ships blow up
I just went through and did a search in the Path to 2409. The word Algeron appears once, in an unrelated item. Cloak doesn't appear at all. Phase doesn't appear at all. Okeg appears several times, but none of them have to do with cloaking or the Romulans.
If you are just reading the Wiki... then that is not All. Cryptic and Pocket books published a mini-book before launch, what he is saying may be indicated within that book. but I'm not sure.
EDIT!!! Go Here, Under the History Section. Third Paragraph, begins with "On Stardate 72487.91"
http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Treaty_of_Algeron
Again, it could be that Klingon cloaking tech is Incompatable with Orion systems, meaning they can't use it AT ALL. Basically you're saying "I should be able to plug in my American XBox into a German house without an adapter. You can't do it. Plugs don't fit.
That's the defunct Treaty of Algeron, which was signed by the Federation and Romulan Star Empire, and the Empire pretty much became defunct after Hobus, hence the Federation Intel ships having inate cloaking capability as well as the Avenger and Defiant lines as well as the Galaxy-X being able to use a Cloaking Device.
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¿? From the game itself?? tell me where it is written that bigger ships get less capabilities about cloaking just for being bigger.
Erm.. im pretty sure that by now klingons know exactly how to install a cloaking device in orion ships. Actually it is not supossed to be hard, it is just cloaking devices are a precious thing, nobody wants to reveal their secrets..
If romulans can implement cloaking devices in starfleet ships, why klingons are not going to be able to install em on orion ships??.
I know, what i meant is, it has nothing to do with ships not being able to carry cloaking devices.
Yet another entitlement thread.
I have 3 Fed captains only one is flying a ship capable of cloaking (Phantom Intel Escort). I got the Eclipse Intel Cruiser as well (Delta Ops Pack) and while it does have a cloaking device, I don't feel the need to fly it yet. Still having fun with my Guardian cruiser.
If I really want to fly a ship with a cloaking device, then I will play one of my KDF or Romulan Captains.
Actually... the OP is wanting the cloak console Feds have as a cross faction to be able to be used on KDF and Romulan player Lockbox/Lobi ships and exclude Fed owned ones. Its not Fed asking for something KDF has. And we have already poked holes in it because the only ships that can use that console are the Defiants, Galaxy-X, and Avengers.
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