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spielman1spielman1 Member Posts: 1,352 Arc User
Man there is so little people playing PvE anymore that is quite ad. I rember when player would play PvE and fight on who got the spot to play lol. But now there is so few that people beg and pry for it to even start, and when it does the players are so bad that 80 percent of the missions fail. This could be contributed to lack of experience or even reading the missions goals and completion. I can understand many are mad the rewards don't compensate the fact of what they did if they ever come have had Crystalin 4 times now give me no reward at all and put in me in AFK 6 times even though I was participating in shooting the darn thing. Seriously though the game masters and the Devs have got to be paying attention and noticing the fact that it is happening and costing theme even more players to leave if they do so choose so. When the experienced players leave and cause the bad ones to rule even more players leave cause they don't what reward is given for the work cause they fail all the time. This is a cycle that needs to be dealt with and fast to encoyage more players to play the PvE missions.
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  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    Event time... Perfectly normal, happens every time, threads like this one appears every time and it will normalize after the event is over.
    Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
    Let me put the rumors to rest: it's definitely still the C-Store (Cryptic Store) It just takes ZEN.
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  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    spielman1 wrote: »
    anazonda wrote: »
    Event time... Perfectly normal, happens every time, threads like this one appears every time and it will normalize after the event is over.
    this has been goin before the event happened hate to say just gotten really bad since the even which contribute but even after the event happens it will still be pretty bad.

    I've heard that before... Heck... I've even made my own of these threads before.

    You're basically imagining it... People just move on to other missions they've done less.

    People just gotten sick of playing what you like to play, and do something else for a while.
    Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
    Let me put the rumors to rest: it's definitely still the C-Store (Cryptic Store) It just takes ZEN.
    Like Duty Officers? Support effords to gather ideas
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  • shadowwraith77shadowwraith77 Member Posts: 6,395 Arc User
    I still PVE a lot, it's just I do other things as well so, not always in a match 24/7!
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  • cidjackcidjack Member Posts: 2,017 Arc User
    I do not PVE anymore due to the DPS snobs.
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  • supergirl1611supergirl1611 Member Posts: 809 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    Biggest reason Autofails. Who wants to queue up for a mission with 4 other random guys and be booted out within 90 secs as fail conditions have been met. There's no incentive to use public queues. (DR is the best expansion ever and the players stopped queuing for it) A lot of people have found private channels to use as much better success rate
  • lovemystartreklovemystartrek Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    All the hype of "terrible" pugs is just that. Hype. You can find some really bad people in pugs. 2-3k player blowing the first generator that you prep...... It happens but not as nearly as often people claim.
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  • kittyflofykittyflofy Member Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    Rewards are not worthy at all for enduring all the lag, noobs, missions mechanics (optionals) and so on. Its not so easy. I specifically stopped doing stfs and other queues because i dont see the point in it. They are not going to give me more rewards that everything else, and i am not willling to play with a lag spike after lag spike. If someday they fix the lag in this game, specially in TRAs, some stfs and some fleet alerts, and they change the rewards and so on, i will happy to return, but not right now lol.
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  • wast33wast33 Member Posts: 1,855 Arc User
    queues are so 90's.... redesign all the sh**, break it down to a reasonable number and make it all open world like the bz's.
    so likely to happen lol
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  • supergirl1611supergirl1611 Member Posts: 809 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    With the Lag issue i only seem to really hit it when using the DPS Channels and playing advanced. Rarely see it on normal pugging (I will pug normals for a quick dil/mark drop when they pop no AUTO FAIL)

    I wonder just how big an effect 5 guys spawning multiple Boff/Captain skills, Multiple Traits and Specialisation powers and putting out high and fast dps numbers is not just messing with the server but causing the games engine to lag behind as it cannot process the numbers being generated by those 5 guys.
    If and when i have tried to pug an advanced and i found a team capable of completing it, there are lag spikes, but no where near the constant lag from start of combat to end of combat i have with the DPS Channels. Not blaming the DPS Channels they are only doing what the game allows and thats pew pew but i wonder if the game engine itself and the power creep thats come into the game with the DPS meta is whats causing the issue. Cryptic have already said some of the coding of certain powers are not effiecent and are a cause of the lag.

    The lag issue really started to be seen from Delta Rising and then TRIBBLE hit the fan with the Winter Event and then that Omega/Upgrade Tech Event. So its been TRIBBLE up since Spec trees were introduced
  • sheldonlcoopersheldonlcooper Member Posts: 4,042 Arc User
    I stay on the beach for the duration of the Risa event. Also I'm conducting a silent protest until the tribble changes come to holodeck. When this happens I will get back into the pugs to support the game for finally making the changes 6 months too late. At this point though there are no resources I need so it's all just for the heck of it. Maybe quite a few people are in this same mindset.
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  • supergirl1611supergirl1611 Member Posts: 809 Arc User
    spielman1 wrote: »
    With the Lag issue i only seem to really hit it when using the DPS Channels and playing advanced. Rarely see it on normal pugging (I will pug normals for a quick dil/mark drop when they pop no AUTO FAIL)

    I wonder just how big an effect 5 guys spawning multiple Boff/Captain skills, Multiple Traits and Specialisation powers and putting out high and fast dps numbers is not just messing with the server but causing the games engine to lag behind as it cannot process the numbers being generated by those 5 guys.
    If and when i have tried to pug an advanced and i found a team capable of completing it, there are lag spikes, but no where near the constant lag from start of combat to end of combat i have with the DPS Channels. Not blaming the DPS Channels they are only doing what the game allows and thats pew pew but i wonder if the game engine itself and the power creep thats come into the game with the DPS meta is whats causing the issue. Cryptic have already said some of the coding of certain powers are not effiecent and are a cause of the lag.

    nothing against the game but they noticed why haven't they fixed it then that simple. The company needs take a good few months and fix all the issues the game is having or update there game server and there servers to better systems tat can handle the demand of it and cap the DPS amount a single player can do with DPS so the system isn't over loaded.

    Because fixing bugs and broken items don't make PWE money. Its only when they stop because of these bugs they will address them.

    TBF to Cryptic they have said they are addressing the Power/Skill effienacy but that will take time and require a lot of recoding of that material trying to
    A. Shrink it down or
    B. Code it to be more memory friendly.
  • wast33wast33 Member Posts: 1,855 Arc User
    rofl.... as i'm not a native english speaker and even the google translator understands what i wrote, i assume some pve-oriented minds...... *sigh*

    njoy ur mess folks, have a nice one.
    kkbbthx
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  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    edited July 2015
    spielman1 wrote: »
    wast33 wrote: »
    rofl.... as i'm not a native english speaker and even the google translator understands what i wrote, i assume some pve-oriented minds...... *sigh*

    njoy ur mess folks, have a nice one.
    kkbbthx
    we understood the words but not the sentence I don't even speak English good and my sentences are better and more thought threw than that.
    He's right and spielman's en.grish is terrible sometimes.

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    oh come on no why is en.grish censored?!!?!
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  • kittyflofykittyflofy Member Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    spielman1 wrote: »

    don't blame yu from what I have been playing for the day the lag has been pretty unseen it happens once in a while,

    yeah sure, tell that to almost every player i encounter in any qeue. I dont think each one of em is complaining because the pleasure of it. And tholian red alerts??? lol, that is a complete joke sometimes.
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  • kittyflofykittyflofy Member Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    spielman1 wrote: »
    kittyflofy wrote: »
    spielman1 wrote: »

    don't blame yu from what I have been playing for the day the lag has been pretty unseen it happens once in a while,

    yeah sure, tell that to almost every player i encounter in any qeue. I dont think each one of em is complaining because the pleasure of it. And tholian red alerts??? lol, that is a complete joke sometimes.

    im not saying it is completly gone im just saying I havnt experienced it too much lately the issue there have lag one in a while but no all the time.

    Maybe you are from US? US players will have no lag or just a little. The problem are the rest of the players.
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  • peterconnorfirstpeterconnorfirst Member Posts: 6,225 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    Hi OP, just wanted to add that I completely share your concerns here. The general interest in PvE has deteriorated throughout the bank and wherever I look. Empty queue lists, rarely any fleet calls and DPS channels only concentrate on a handful of maps at best and they are also quiet.

    It’s interesting because I don’t look at empty fleet rosters or friendliest or whatsoever. Peeps just seem to hang or do something else. This makes me wonder because I always get bored pretty soonish in STO when not on a PvE map, preferably with friends or at least with pugs.

    Perhaps I’ve played too much or just smart under all the options but at the moment my toons refine 72k Dil/day. 75% comes out of PvE maps. One basically only has to do 3 fife minute missions and in addition to the doff system reaches the daily refinement limit on a char.

    I hope with the abandoning of the fail criteria a lot of players join in to get Dil rich. :)
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  • risingwolfshadowrisingwolfshadow Member Posts: 619 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    spielman1 wrote: »
    wast33 wrote: »
    queues are so 90's.... redesign all the sh**, break it down to a reasonable number and make it all open world like the bz's.
    so likely to happen lol
    what

    Yeah same here and my universal translator is broken....think he is trying to comunicate thou,seems its a pvp player,no wonder we cant understand him.

    Hahahahahahahahaha!!! I'm not sure if this is potentially racist or just complete stupidity on your part to generalise a small community in the game because you're not one of them, probably due to not being any good at it. ;) Be nice now and play nice.

    Also, check out my idea for a more interesting PvE that would involve PvP support too. Check it out before the hate and please comment.
    http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums#/discussion/1194521/after-the-iconian-war
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